White Nationalism

[GillDouglas]

"Proudly illustrate their culture" - what does that even mean? How does one "illustrate" their culture - and when others should pride in their own culture within that country, that's suddenly wrong. When I take about having pride in the culture of my homeland, I'm told I should merge or blend into American culture (which is white American culture). Why? Why should I become 'other' to the way I was raised? Why should I prefer American to French culture? (Assuming one believes there is anything to American culture other than Mickey Mouse, obesity and Hollywood).

I don't think its wrong for any culture, especially in the U.S., to proudly display their heritage and to stick with people they know. The United States is a melting pot of cultures, but many identify with where they came from. It's a common current trend for cultures other than white Europeans here in the U.S. to do so. These groups tend to stick together and mingle among themselves, only occasionally will one break off and 'blend' with another culture. Having known people who broke away I was told they were shunned by their family for doing so. So you see there is no difference if a group of whites of European descent are doing what a group of Hispanics, Asians, or French might do.

This white nationalist movement that I just recently learned of does not seem to want cultures to blend, so I'm not sure what you mean by you having to blend as a French American. I know that my family is originally Irish (Northern) and English who came over in the 1600's, and I am certain they identified as such for many years. They probably stuck together and stayed away from the other groups that were immigrating, like German, Catholic Irish, etc. I'm still as white as my ancestors were but I'm also German, Scandinavian, Jewish, etc. I have no culture to really claim, other than just white American with a European mix.

Are you bashing on American culture with your pokes at Mickey Mouse, obesity and Hollywood? Wow, this reminds me of the time I visited Strasbourg. I was treated poorly, just for being American.

 

[Hetta]

I'm an American only by adoption. I was not born or raised here, but my husband is a non-white American and my children have been raised as a mixture of both/all cultures. I don't join French groups, actually. There are few French people where I live. And that's fine. I just would like to be able to hold on to my own culture without being told "you're in America now" and "if you don't love our flag you can leave." UGH.

 

[GillDouglas]

I'm an American only by adoption. I was not born or raised here, but my husband is a non-white American and my children have been raised as a mixture of both/all cultures. I don't join French groups, actually. There are few French people where I live. And that's fine. I just would like to be able to hold on to my own culture without being told "you're in America now" and "if you don't love our flag you can leave." UGH.

I'm envious of those who have a culture to claim. You can raise your children to know the French language, customs, and food. I have nothing to offer my children in ways of their ancestral heritage. I guess we could try to bring back some Irish, but I don't know the language or how to cook the food. You must live around some redneck a-holes, because we wouldn't tell you that. I applaud you for hanging onto your roots, and I hope you'll pass it on to your children and they to theirs. You can be an American who identifies as a French woman. Please ignore those who would tell you otherwise.

 

[Red Fox]

I just would like to be able to hold on to my own culture without being told "you're in America now" and "if you don't love our flag you can leave." UGH.

Hold onto to your culture and reject anyone else who doesn't like it. I hold onto to mine and I could careless if any non-Native person doesn't like it. I don't love this country or its rag and I'm never going to pledge my allegiance to it, but I'm not leaving. I think these European descendants who say something so foolish as "Love America or leave it" need to be reminded of which one of us are the descendants of the original inhabitants of all the stolen land this nation now sits on and which one of us isn't.

 

[ananda]

Hold onto to your culture and reject anyone else who doesn't like it. I hold onto to mine and I could careless if any non-Native person doesn't like it. I don't love this country or its rag and I'm never going to pledge my allegiance to it, but I'm not leaving. I think these European descendants who say something so foolish as "Love America or leave it" need to be reminded of which one of us are the descendants of the original inhabitants of all the stolen land this nation now sits on and which one of us isn't.

Everyone should be able to like what they want to like, dislike whatever they want to dislike, and leave everyone else to live as they want to live with whomever they want to live with peacefully ... and abandon the driving desire to forcefully control/integrate/separate/change others.

Native americans/whites/asians/blacks/and everyone else included

 

[GillDouglas]

Hold onto to your culture and reject anyone else who doesn't like it. I hold onto to mine and I could careless if any non-Native person doesn't like it. I don't love this country or its rag and I'm never going to pledge my allegiance to it, but I'm not leaving. I think these European descendants who say something so foolish as "Love America or leave it" need to be reminded of which one of us are the descendants of the original inhabitants of all the stolen land this nation now sits on and which one of us isn't.

It's a good thing the Europeans that stole this land didn't wipe out the inhabitants like the Europeans that stole land in South America did, and other areas. I'm glad you're allowed to practice and pass on the traditions of your people, who first inhabited this continent. That's very rare for any aborigines people in the world. No one can tell you how you should live, and if they do you pay them no mind.

 

[Red Fox]

Everyone should be able to like what they want to like, dislike whatever they want to dislike, and leave everyone else to live as they want to live with whomever they want to live with peacefully ... and abandon the driving desire to forcefully control/integrate/separate/change others.

Native americans/whites/asians/blacks/and everyone else included

Suffice to say, my life is more peaceful and I don't encounter as much ridicule of my people or my culture and heritage, or ridicule of my religious beliefs, since I left the Christian church a few weeks ago. I still encounter that every now and again, but it's not as bad as it use to be for me over the years.

It's a good thing the Europeans that stole this land didn't wipe out the inhabitants like the Europeans that stole land in South America did, and other areas. I'm glad you're allowed to practice and pass on the traditions of your people, who first inhabited this continent. That's very rare for any aborigines people in the world. No one can tell you how you should live, and if they do you pay them no mind.

No, they didn't wipe my people out, but it wasn't for the lack of trying. However, when they couldn't annihilate us all, they then turned to cultural genocide and forced assimilation, which is still occurring today and we are still feeling the tidal waves of ramifications of what happened to our ancestors in the past.

 

[Red Fox]

Perhaps I'm missing something but I fail to see the difference between white nationalism and white supremacy.

 

[ananda]

Perhaps I'm missing something but I fail to see the difference between white nationalism and white supremacy.

I see "nationalism" as the desire to preserve a distinct culture, whereas "supremacy" is the desire to elevate one culture above others.

They are different things, but are oftentimes seen together. One can support one without the other though.

 

[Red Fox]

I see "nationalism" as the desire to preserve a distinct culture, whereas "supremacy" is the desire to elevate one culture above others.

They are different things, but are oftentimes seen together. One can support one without the other though.

Okay, that makes sense. Do you think the two overlap more often than not?

Personally speaking, as a Native American, it has been my experience that white nationalism and white supremacy do overlap fairly often.

 

[warrior of Christ 94]

Okay, that makes sense. Do you think the two overlap more often than not?

Personally speaking, as a Native American, it has been my experience that white nationalism and white supremacy do overlap fairly often.

I have been a White Nationalist for years and have never met a White supremacist, and the only ones I've heard about were all FBI informants, liberals trying to cause trouble or Hollywood characters. The term White supremacy means that White Western culture has been created by Whites and White people and White people alone should be in control of White Western culture. To flip it the other way would be Chinese people created Chinese culture and Chinese people alone should be in control of Chinese culture.

The White supremacist argument is brought out by groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center (a non-profit charity that has 250 million in the bank and does nothing with it) and the Anti-defamation league to scare people with horror stories of Blacks hanging from trees and gas chambers.
White Nationalism is about preserving life, specifically White lives. I will freely admit that there are some darker sides to White Nationalism, but that is true of every revolutionary political movement, but those darker aspects are not universally representative of the movement as a whole. The majority of us want a peaceful solution to the race issue.
Dr. David Duke ( former member US house of representatives) is the most public face and unofficial representative of the White Nationalist movement, listen with an open mind and hear what he has to say, them research what he says, verify for yourself, then make a choice if White Nationalism is good or bad.

Jarod Taylor ahead of American Renaissance is another well known spokesman, and there is James Edwards at the Political Cesspool, as well as the Council of Conservative Citizens another good organization.

 

[Red Fox]

David Duke? Are you serious? And since you're not a minority like I am, I don't expect you to understand what I was talking about.

 

[warrior of Christ 94]

David Duke? Are you serious? And since you're not a minority like I am, I don't expect you to understand what I was talking about.

Yes David Duke. Natives went through a genocide, Whites are currently going through a genocide. The means of achieving the genocide is different, but genocide is still just genocide. Natives ( in Canada at least, I don't know about American ones) had their culture stripped from them, White culture is now being destroyed and made out to be evil. Natives were forced off their land and into reverves. Whites are having their homelands invaded and White flight is no different than being herded into reserves.

 

[MehGuy]

You are under the media impression that White nationalism and White supremacy is the same thing, they are not. A White supremacist is someone who wants to oppress, enslave or kill those of another race. White Nationalism wants racial SEPARATION, in other words, a White Nationalist want to live in a racially homogeneous society. Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans, White countries for White people. How is wanting that hate? What is wrong with not wanting to see ones people genocided?

I never said word one about Jesus being only for White people. I find it interesting how whenever someone says White people should not be genocided or that they have a right to their own homeland, suddenly they are under constant and irrational attack. Why is that you suppose? Why so much hate for White people?

And yes the Bible does say there are some people better than others, they are called the Chosen People.

What if the majority of white people do not want to live in a racially homogeneous society?

 

[Red Fox]

Yes David Duke. Natives went through a genocide, Whites are currently going through a genocide. The means of achieving the genocide is different, but genocide is still just genocide. Natives ( in Canada at least, I don't know about American ones) had their culture stripped from them, White culture is now being destroyed and made out to be evil. Natives were forced off their land and into reserves. Whites are having their homelands invaded and White flight is no different than being herded into reserves.

I don't even know where to begin with this post... SMH...

 

[warrior of Christ 94]

What if the majority of white people do not want to live in a racially homogeneous society?

No rational person would voluntarily vote to have their entire culture and people wiped out of existence through forced assimilation.
Multiculturalism is just a code word for White genocide. "Multiculturalism" is a program of changing White societies into non-White societies. Multiculturalism is forced on White countries and ONLY white countries. Every other people are allowed to have their own ethnic homeland, but Whites are not allowed this, we are forced to assimilate with non-Whites who are drowning out White people. By 2040 Whites will be minorities in their own countries, by the end of the century we will be extinct. Either you are for White genoicde or you are opposed to it. If you are opposed you must be against 3rd world immigration, multiculturalism and the "diversity is our strength" lie

 

[warrior of Christ 94]

I don't even know where to begin with this post... SMH...

That is called cognitive dissonance, you have been told for so long one story and had come to believe it, when presented with the other side, you can't process it because it contradicts what you had come to believe. Engage in some critical thinking and you will get past it.

 

[Hetta]

No rational person would voluntarily vote to have their entire culture and people wiped out of existence through forced assimilation.
Multiculturalism is just a code word for White genocide. "Multiculturalism" is a program of changing White societies into non-White societies. Multiculturalism is forced on White countries and ONLY white countries. Every other people are allowed to have their own ethnic homeland, but Whites are not allowed this, we are forced to assimilate with non-Whites who are drowning out White people. By 2040 Whites will be minorities in their own countries, by the end of the century we will be extinct. Either you are for White genoicde or you are opposed to it. If you are opposed you must be against 3rd world immigration, multiculturalism and the "diversity is our strength" lie

I don't think that you understand what "multiculturalism" means.

As the proud wife of a non-white man, I'm glad to say that diversity is indeed a strength. I'm thrilled with the diversity of my family and so happy that I contributed to the melting pot.

 

[warrior of Christ 94]

I don't think that you understand what "multiculturalism" means.

As the proud wife of a non-white man, I'm glad to say that diversity is indeed a strength. I'm thrilled with the diversity of my family and so happy that I contributed to the melting pot.

The problem with melting pots is that the bottom always gets burned and the scum rises to the top.
Ahh, yes the joys of diversity. It is just hard to understand how escalating crime and drugs, overburdened welfare rolls, high taxes, and failed schools are joyful. Not to mention the alienation, Muslim rape gangs, race riots, terrorism and all of the other assorted problems that go along with DIEversity. What are it benefits again? How exactly do White people benefit from diversity? Name 5 things (not including food or music) that multiculturalism has done to make the European nations better.

 

[MehGuy]

No rational person would voluntarily vote to have their entire culture and people wiped out of existence through forced assimilation.
Multiculturalism is just a code word for White genocide. "Multiculturalism" is a program of changing White societies into non-White societies. Multiculturalism is forced on White countries and ONLY white countries. Every other people are allowed to have their own ethnic homeland, but Whites are not allowed this, we are forced to assimilate with non-Whites who are drowning out White people. By 2040 Whites will be minorities in their own countries, by the end of the century we will be extinct. Either you are for White genoicde or you are opposed to it. If you are opposed you must be against 3rd world immigration, multiculturalism and the "diversity is our strength" lie

I'd say most sane people do not worry themselves over trivial things..

As far as whites being bred out of existence, is that really a big deal?

Naturally over the course of time, all the races will converge.

There really is nothing special about the races. Why force other white people to conform to your own superficial wants and desires? If they want to marry a black woman, and engage in black culture, why should they care what White Nationalists think? You're fighting a losing battle. Most people do not see the value in creating a racially homogenous society. Because there isn't an objective one.

You're just getting yourself all worked up and upset about nothing. Go outside, take afresh breath of air, and live your one and only life. Don't waste it on some foolhardy mission. That's probably the saddest thing I see from the NW community.