White Nationalism

[crawdadr]

First Red Fox if it was wrong to happen to your people it would be wrong for it to happen to any other people.

The OP white nationalism is wrong and makes no sense when you consider that culture is not based upon skin color but upon shared experiences and education. Saying that there will no longer be pale skinned people in America in the far future says nothing about the culture that will be there. Most likely it will be an amalgamation of cultures just like it is today with changes brought on by technology. As an example my children are very pale with blond hair like myself (what little hair I have). But their mother is adopted and we have no idea of her ancestry though she has a jewish cast about her if I am any judge. So our grand children could look like anything, BUT their culture will be directly impacted by how I am raising my children now. Even if they turn out black, brown, or albino their skin color means nothing.

But even more important to many of us here no where does God make a distinction of race. Especially since our Lord Jesus most likely was of dark complexion just as were the apostles. As such knowing what we know about scripture and the preordained finish of this story how does even culture matter in the grand design of the universe?

 

[Paulos23]

Actually, I see whites being oppressed in the U.S.

I am sorry, but I don't see that. I see the loss of privilege, but that is not the same as being oppressed or losing rights.

 

[quatona]

I see "nationalism" as the desire to preserve a distinct culture, whereas "supremacy" is the desire to elevate one culture above others.

They are different things, but are oftentimes seen together. One can support one without the other though.

Apparently some of them are confused themselves:
There are various reasons why this is happening, but the ultimate goal of White Nationalism is the preservation of life and total racial separation.
As for the superiority thing? Everybody thinks there [sic!] group is the best, it is how we push ourselves to excellence and there is nothing wrong with that. Every spots [sic!] team does, every patriot does it.
(from post #12)

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Other races want to intermarry with whites so that their children are better looking than they are. That's a compliment.

 

[nonbeliever314]

White nationalism is one of the most reviled ideologies on earth. But what exactly is so awful about it?

People are stupid and think skin color has to do with race.

 

[paulm50]

White nationalism is one of the most reviled ideologies on earth. But what exactly is so awful about it?

You missed the story of the Good Samaritan.

Judge a person on their abilities, not skin colour.

Hitler and the Nazi's, Stalin, Dammer, Breivik, Loughner etc. Were or are white. Nothing there to be proud of.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't think the absorption of the white race into the larger non-white community will solve the worlds problems. So-called "white imperialism" has raised the standard of living of the world more than any other race, and happily they're still doing it. A major point of contention (jealousy) is that much of the world is so culturally backward that they have no hope of catching up. The white people of the world keep extending their lead. I would be mad too if I couldn't claim at least some homegrown successes.

 

[nonbeliever314]

Other races want to intermarry with whites so that their children are better looking than they are. That's a compliment.

What are the other races you are referring to?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

People are stupid and think skin color has to do with race.

The way I understand it the term race is commonly used to differentiate between peoples of different skin color, thus white race, black race, yellow race.

 

[nonbeliever314]

The way I understand it the term race is commonly used to differentiate between peoples of different skin color, thus white race, black race, yellow race.

Common used? Yes. Scientifically correct? No. There is only one human race, Homo Sapiens. Hopefully we don't go extinct.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Common used? Yes. Scientifically correct? No. There is only one human race, Homo Sapiens. Hopefully we don't go extinct.

God has already planned our extinction.

 

[nonbeliever314]

God has already planned our extinction.

(Just added another reason to why I don't like religion) What a nice god you worship.

 

[ananda]

... culture is not based upon skin color but upon shared experiences and education.

Skin color can be one basis for a culture, among other traits.

 

[Chany]

I'm not a professional psychologist, but I'm pretty sure the need to put "white" in front of the word "nationalism" speaks volumes about the speaker.

First of all, I'm not really sure nationalism is even a good thing, regardless of racist connotations or lack there of. How is thinking your country is the best simply because it is your country have any positive outcomes? I can only see negatives.

Also, I do not see how race is a necessary component for culture. I can see how is can be contingent in reality (a Native American who follows their tribe's culture has a cultural history based in racial prejudice and isolation), but not in the concept of culture itself (I can easily imagine a group of white Europeans going over to North America, deciding to live as a Native American tribe, and thus facing a similiar experience to other Native American tribes).

 

[crawdadr]

Skin color can be one basis for a culture, among other traits.

how exactly does melanin levels effect your culture? That is like saying your male pattern baldness dictates or affects your culture. It is where you live, how how much wealth is in your area, and what social pressures are placed upon you that effect culture. You give me a white kid and a black kid that both grow up in swanky palm beach and I will show you two kids that will basically have the same cultural outlook and belief systems.

 

[ananda]

how exactly does melanin levels effect your culture? That is like saying your male pattern baldness dictates or affects your culture. It is where you live, how how much wealth is in your area, and what social pressures are placed upon you that effect culture. You give me a white kid and a black kid that both grow up in swanky palm beach and I will show you two kids that will basically have the same cultural outlook and belief systems.

Preferences.

Some prefer one trait, others prefer other traits. Skin color is a trait, among other traits such as height, baldness, religion, behavior, etc. Simple as that.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Physical appearance is often associated with particular cultural practices.

 

[Chany]

Physical appearance is often associated with particular cultural practices.

For example?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

For example?

People who look like they're from India cooking with lots of curry. In fact it's actually quite predictable.

 

[rturner76]

Preferences.

Some prefer one trait, others prefer other traits. Skin color is a trait, among other traits such as height, baldness, religion, behavior, etc. Simple as that.

White isn't a culture it's a color. There are blonde haired Jews. Will they be included in your Nation? What about Slavic people? They are white. Turkish people are white will they be included? How about Armenian? Are you talking about WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestants)? If so what about Catholic French or Italians? There are white Brazilians and Colombians, will they be included? You see how dividing along color lines is not practical? Ethnicity and color are two different things. What are you talking about?