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(1) there never was a traditional LXX and the whole thing ceased to exist at the end of the 4th century all the way until 1840 OR (2) there is a traditional LXX, but it is being suppressed by modern scholars who worship Vaticanus and Sinaiticus as some sort of Divine Duality.
Documentation you say?
Why bother - you wouldn't receive it anyway. Some of you are not about to step out of your comfort zone and go against the world on this!
Oblio said:Perhaps there are no extant ancient copies outside of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Your complaint proves nothing.
You see, Oblio my friend, if there are no extant manuscripts other than those recently discovered in the 1800s which were written in the 4th--if there are no post-4th century mss--then that disproves your claim that the Greek Orthodox church has been using the LXX for 2000 years!
Oblio said:Well, no it doesn't, all it proves is that we don't have a copy from those centuries, it does not prove that they did not exist or were not used.
AV, you have to realize that it's not very believable when people take this line. "I have proof that what I'm saying is true!"AVBunyan said:Documentation you say?
Why bother - you wouldn't receive it anyway. Some of you are not about to step out of your comfort zone and go against the world on this!
God bless
It's a conspiracy to be sure.
TSIBHOD said:AV, you have to realize that it's not very believable when people take this line. "I have proof that what I'm saying is true!"
"Then provide it please."
TSIBHOD said:The ball's in your court, friend.
What you quoted--I simply meant that it was your turn to reply. But if you are tired of this discussion, that's fine.AVBunyan said:Then if it is in my court then I chose to end my portion and head out - nothing more I can say or do here. If you want to feel you've gotten the best of me then fine - won't bother me - never said I was an expert - just a simple fella who believes what he has in his hands is the pure and infallible word of God which appears that this is something that many of you folks cannot say about any version you read.
If you want to say I'm leaving without answering alll your aruguements then that is fine - just don't know how to answer some of yor arguments that would be acceptable to you and some I just can't answer anyway - don't mind admitting. I've had questions that some of you folks have not answered either.
This has been going on and going nowhere and it is obvious nobody is going to change their minds. You've shown me nothing but the standard party line that is in agreement with the world (lost and saved) on the issue of authority. I've been answering the same old tired arguments regarding all that is wrong with my position and you can say the same about my arguments.
There comes a time when the discussion just comes to no profit and I feel we have reached it.
God tells me to redeem the time and this is no longer redeeming the time as I see it - so please, continue on without me.
It has been interesting but I'm out.
God bless
In fact, it looks like to me that the Christians who are closest to God are the ones in persecuted countries (in general, of course). They don't have all the pleasures of this world that distract them, and in fact, they have to be in hiding from persecutors while they worship. They are making real sacrifices for their faith. I think that it is enmity with the world is friendship with God. Some persecuted Christians don't even have any Bibles at all, but their faith would probably beat most anyone here.
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