Which OS are you using?

EphesiaNZ · Jun 14, 2011

Dark_Lite said:
Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem with Unity if the following was true:
A) You could move the dock around
B) The Ubuntu button allowed some way of accessing the "real" start menu categories.

I could even live with the sideways dock. It's the lack of a "real" start menu that made me turn it off. I need to find my newly installed application (excuse me, "app") but it wouldn't let me without using the search feature. That is a no-no.

I have tried Unity several times but the trials last a matter of minutes before Unity gets the boot!

I know both Unity and Gnome Shell are causing long time users to bang their heads against the wall as some believe the new interfaces are dumbed down for the technophobic Linux n00bs. If that's true then Gnome Shell would be my chosen one as it flows a lot easier IMHO.

I don't think Unity is a good move for Ubuntu but only time will tell - I'd hate to be a Ubuntu business customer at the moment - 12.04 won't be too far away!

C-Man · Jun 14, 2011

Kubuntu would seem to be the better choice. Or even Gentoo for the more advanced users.

Qyöt27 · Jun 14, 2011

Personally, I could care less about whatever division is occurring between Gnome Shell and Unity, simply because...you know...this is open source we're talking about here. Forks happen, forks are beneficial - usually. It really just feels bizarre to me to see this occurring (although it hasn't reached the ridiculous, threat-of-litigation levels of what's going on between ffmpeg and libav, but still).

Competition is good. As far as I'm concerned, GNOME 3 should be strictly the underlying platform base, with the new shells easily swappable. GNOME 3 = good idea. Trying to reinvent the wheel or giving undue attention to touchscreen tablet-esque interfaces = not a good idea. Even Windows isn't that obtuse (yet; Windows 8's interface mockups look like it's falling into the same trap), and that's saying something.

The tl;dr version: whatever happened to choice being a good thing?

I could be cynical and say that I'm tempted to think that the GNOME Team and Canonical looked at the fallout from when KDE 4 was released, stepped back, and then said, "Let's do the same exact thing a couple years from now, but let's do it bigger and make our userbase even more peeved at us in the process."

LinuxUser · Jun 14, 2011

onemessiah said:
Just curious...

If you dual boot, please check all applicable boxes.

I'm running Windows XP Media Center and Linux Fedora 8 dual boot. Love Fedora! Def my favorite distro.

I am running PCLinuxOS and Win 7

EphesiaNZ · Jun 15, 2011

Qyöt27;57751830 said:
I could be cynical and say that I'm tempted to think that the GNOME Team and Canonical looked at the fallout from when KDE 4 was released, stepped back, and then said, "Let's do the same exact thing a couple years from now, but let's do it bigger and make our userbase even more peeved at us in the process."

LOL - it seems that way sometimes

Forks are good like in the case of LibreOffice or where a dev has gone and left the app to rot but not always good as it diversifies some apps. Linux is in need of solidification at the moment IMHO as it seems to be going in too many different directions.

William_0 · Jun 15, 2011

I <3 Snow Leopard.

EphesiaNZ · Jun 15, 2011

C-Man said:
Kubuntu would seem to be the better choice. Or even Gentoo for the more advanced users.

I quite like XFCE or LXDE for a traditional taskbar environment. Kubuntu (KDE) seems a bit sluggish to me. Openbox window manager is one of my favorites though.

Johnwallace · Jun 22, 2011

Win XP at house,and Linux at office.

LinuxUser · Jun 22, 2011

Have to update I am using Xbuntu. Tried to use Unity, didn't care for it.

oi_antz · Jun 30, 2011

EphesiaNZ said:
Interested to know what you use each OS for?

Linux Mint 11 x64 main host for everyday stuff (when not using Protools 9)
Windows XP in VirtualBox for Adobe Fireworks CS3 and CashflowComplete
Windows 7 dual boot for Protools 9
Ubuntu Studio dual boot (doesn't get used at all after buying Protools 9).
Windows XP dual boot for Cool Edit Pro

Messy eh, but I really hate Windows and I'm married to those few core apps.

oi_antz · Jun 30, 2011

C-Man said:
Kubuntu would seem to be the better choice. Or even Gentoo for the more advanced users.

If that is what you think then you should try Linux Mint.

EphesiaNZ · Jun 30, 2011

oi_antz said:
Linux Mint 11 x64 main host for everyday stuff (when not using Protools 9)
Windows XP in VirtualBox for Adobe Fireworks CS3 and CashflowComplete
Windows 7 dual boot for Protools 9
Ubuntu Studio dual boot (doesn't get used at all after buying Protools 9).
Windows XP dual boot for Cool Edit Pro

Messy eh, but I really hate Windows and I'm married to those few core apps.

Yeah, I am bound to Windows due to a schools website I do and they use MS Publisher for their newsletter. I occasionally have to modify their newsletter before converting it to PDF for the website - other than that Windows can go away.

Publisher is so common and there is no Linux app that can convert that format so I'm stuck unless I use WINE but that defeats the object of the exercise.

Dark_Lite · Jun 30, 2011

I should try installing Gentoo again. I haven't touched it in upwards of a decade, but that's because I don't like having to compile every last thing I want to use. Arch is like Gentoo, but without that.

EphesiaNZ · Jun 30, 2011

At least Gentoo has a live DVD ISO image you can use. I prefer FreeBSD if I want to be a compilation junkie but also want to try Linux From Scratch (LFS) just to say I've tried.

I did try to build a Gentoo system years ago but found it very tedious. Arch, as you say, is way better due to lack of compilation.

EndlessSerenade · Jul 3, 2011

Windows 7 ultimate.... can't complain

LinuxUser · Jul 3, 2011

I have to agree, even those I use Xubuntu I have Win 7 on my Desktop and really can't complain about it

MrJim · Jul 4, 2011

I used WUBI to install Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty" onto the boy's PC ~ dual boot with XP Pro. It runs very nicely thank you. I'd use it on this mac if I had a larger HD.

EphesiaNZ · Jul 4, 2011

LinuxUser said:
I have to agree, even those I use Xubuntu I have Win 7 on my Desktop and really can't complain about it

I have pulled my hair (what little I have) out trying to get a desktop to work with Windoze 7 and a USB wireless adapter. Win 7 failed to connect to my wireless access point via the USB adapter - it knew the wireless network was there but detected the encryption level as WEP - it's actually WPA2!

So, after a 1.9GB download of Windows 7 SP1 (yes 1.9GB!) which I applied I find I'm no better off! As I know it's seeing the wireless network I tried to set the IP address on the PC manually - it's works, but still claims to be WEP encryption. :o

After downloading a ton of Windows Updates (post 1.9GB SP1) it's now showing the encryption level as WPA2 - which it is but, it still won't get its IP address automatically so I've left it hard coded.

What a mission! This same USB wireless adapter takes less than a minute to sort out with a Debian Linux based distro such as Ubuntu or Mint!

Final Score: Windows 0 - Linux 1

Dark_Lite · Jul 5, 2011

To be fair though, Linux has a lot more problems with wireless than Windows does. Statistics would indicate that eventually the issue would go in reverse, but it's pretty rare.

th1bill · Jul 5, 2011

I run Ubuntu on my Desk-top and Puppy Linux on my Gateway lap-top that was built for Win98. Puppy is so efficient that it will run and install on as little as 32 megs. of RAM. The Ubuntu machine is a DIY unit with a Tri-Core 2.3 gig AMD with 8 gigs of RAM and my Gateway has a Pentium 1 with 512 meg of RAM. It will run Ubuntu but the HDD is only 7.6 gig so that storage is small.

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