Which Day of the Week is the Sabbath?

[Dragons87]

I don't know. I do know that now that I do not work on Saturday, I feel better physically and mentally. Rested! Ready to whip the world! Sunday I spend in church and in study. Not exactly work, but not rest either!

That's good!

 

[Cliff2]

The Sabbath (a day of rest) is Saturday.

The Lord's Day is Sunday.

We are to worship every day.

Can you tell me from the Bible where it says that Sunday is the Lord's day?

Also where does the Bible say to worship every day?

You are right when you say that Saturday is the Sabbath.

 

[BarbB]

but the The Sabbath is the one that is blessed.

I'm sure, but I keep coming back to John the Beloved's phrase in Revelations:

REV 1:9 I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. [10] On the Lord's Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet, [11] which said: "Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea."

On the Lord's Day I was in the Spirit - I like the sound of that.

 

[BarbB]

Can you tell me from the Bible where it says that Sunday is the Lord's day?

Also where does the Bible say to worship every day?

You are right when you say that Saturday is the Sabbath.

REV 1:9 I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. [10] On the Lord's Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet, [11] which said: "Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea."

As for worship - I can't imagine going through a day without worshipping God.

And as for which day is the Sabbath - probably Saturday. I rest as God rested, and I keep it holy by not doing normal stuff!

 

[Oblio]

As for primary evidence, the NT is good enough for me; does that suffice for you?

Nope, the NT does not speak of the history of the Church past the first century. Nore is the Bible the entirety of God's word.

So you are backing out of your initial argument (I would to if I were you)?

Uh ... no.

And we know who changed it, they readily admit it. While I don't agree with their attempt to change it I can at least respect the fact that they are honest about it.

As usual, you bear false witness. I will ask you again, what man changed the Sabbath and when ?

 

[Oblio]

Also where does the Bible say to worship every day?

Search for pray without ceasing

 

[BarbB]

Search for pray without ceasing

I keep thinking that it's St. Francis, but he added the "if necessary, use words", right? Loving St. Francis!

 

[Oblio]

Even better, St. Paul

1 TH 5:17

 

[BarbB]

Even better, St. Paul

1 TH 5:17

Thanks, Oblio.

 

[Oblio]

Rejoice in your hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer.
(Rom 12:12)

 

[Oblio]

And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
(Act 2:46)

 

[Oblio]

Not quite as direct, but Christ tells us that we should be watching and praying rather than sleeping when He comes and He goes on to tell us that we do not know what day that will be. How can we follow His commandment without praying every day ?

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
(Mar 13:32-36)

 

[BarbB]

Y-E-S-S-S-S-S! Thanks, Oblio!

 

[calidog]

Can you tell me from the Bible where it says that Sunday is the Lord's day?

Also where does the Bible say to worship every day?

You are right when you say that Saturday is the Sabbath.

Saturday is the original sabbath. If you live by the law, you cease work on the original sabath. Jesus expounded on the law by saying if you broke the law in your heart, you are guilty.

I don't believe anywhere in the bible it says that we now consider Sunday as a new sabbath.

What Paul is saying is Christ is the fulfillment of what the holy days and sabbaths represented, and we are FREE to worship God any or all days of the week.

Jesus said sabbath day of rest is made for man; not man made for sabbath.
Therefore we take one day a week for rest from work. As christians, Christ is a picture of sabbath, He is our rest; He said "it is finished" and now we rest on what He has done.

After reading Pauls letters, the early church chose resurection sunday to worship and rest, being free to do that because of what Paul said.
It was the early church that began calling sunday sabbath.
Worship and rest on saturday or sunday. Worship every day and rest one day a week. You choose.

 

[Cliff2]

Saturday is the original sabbath. If you live by the law, you cease work on the original sabath. Jesus expounded on the law by saying if you broke the law in your heart, you are guilty.

I don't believe anywhere in the bible it says that we now consider Sunday as a new sabbath.

What Paul is saying is Christ is the fulfillment of what the holy days and sabbaths represented, and we are FREE to worship God any or all days of the week.

Jesus said sabbath day of rest is made for man; not man made for sabbath.
Therefore we take one day a week for rest from work. As christians, Christ is a picture of sabbath, He is our rest; He said "it is finished" and now we rest on what He has done.

After reading Pauls letters, the early church chose resurection sunday to worship and rest, being free to do that because of what Paul said.
It was the early church that began calling sunday sabbath.
Worship and rest on saturday or sunday. Worship every day and rest one day a week. You choose.

You see this is the question that no one can asnwer.

Where in the Bible does it say that the New Testament Church chose Sunday as the Sabbath.

When Jesus said those words on the cross "It Is Finished", what was He really talking about?

If we are going to say that the Sabbath was finished then we are also going to have to say the other nine commandments are also finished.

I do not hear anyone cally for the finish of the other nine commandments.

We are given a clue as to what He was talking about by what also happened right then.

The temple curtain was ripped from top to bottom.

The sacrificial system of animal sacrifices was finished. That had nothinbg to do with the Sabbath being finsihed.

 

[spirit1st]

ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS SCRIPTURE?
2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which engendereth to bondage, which is Hagar.
Gal 4:25 For this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Do any understand,The mother of us ALL?
Because we are made like this city.Where once we were made of the earth.
Now we are BORN OF GOD!EVERLASTING and SPIRITS clean and pure!

everyday is now the LORDS .Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

BUT take heart?it is now no effort once born of GOD!Why?
1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

This scripture seems to scare many?
Thinking others with sin ?
Once born of GOD!We have no desire to sin or even desire the things of this world.But if we do evil?Then He deals with us.if we keep doing evil?then HE TAKES OUR LIFE!
1Co 5:5 To deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
I THINK THE WORD OF GOD IS SO MISUNDERSTOOD BY MOST!
men teaching men
few knowing or living in the power of GOD.Which HE says?we ALL SHOULD!
BECAUSE THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS POWER!
1Co 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
JESUS CHRIST SAID?GREATER WORKS WILL THESE DO!

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
THIS IS A REAL EXPERIANCE .just like being born again is!
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


THIS also is a real experiance,these things are for each of us.But if we reject or do not believe or think they are not much?we will not experiance them.Because we 1st believe.then we can recieve.just like the other spiritual gifts and blessings.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

HE TELLS US TO SEEK TO ENTER IN!Not maybe or it would be nice.BUT TO OBEY OUR LORD IS THE KEY TO GROWING IN TRUTH AND UNDERSTANDING.Or we can stay the same .drinking the milk until we are raptured or dead .

 

[spirit1st]

you see?the sabbath was for our flesh to rest.But the flesh is less than the spirit.We NOW MUST BE BORN AGAIN.NEW CREATURES,BORN OF GOD!Being NEW CREATURES.HE HAS MADE A NEW REST FOR US!
A better rest.in this rest,as we read?We do nothing.The HOLY GHOST DOES EVERYTHING!The other commandments are under LOVE.The law of LOVE is where we now live .This law is greater and we do everything out of LOVE or it is evil!You know?The LORD tells us to do ALL THINGS AS UNTO HIM!
This should change our thinking.
Then we can not complain.our boss is mean or unkind.Because we do not work for him.But as unto our LORD!
Jam 2:8 If ye fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
THE WAYS OF THE LORD?Are not the ways of the world.We can not do both!

 

[calidog]

You see this is the question that no one can asnwer.

Where in the Bible does it say that the New Testament Church chose Sunday as the Sabbath. { the early church, not the bible, chose sunday.}

When Jesus said those words on the cross "It Is Finished", what was He really talking about? { He was of course talking about redemption. He came to fulfill the law and did it. It is fullfilled. It is finished--no more sacrificial lambs.}

If we are going to say that the Sabbath was finished then we are also going to have to say the other nine commandments are also finished.
{the bible tells us the Sabbath was made for the Jewish nation and commanded the Gentiles not to desicrate the sabbath. The new testament tells us we are free to worship any or all days. Jesus tells us sabath was made for man, not the other way around.}

I do not hear anyone cally for the finish of the other nine commandments.
{niether do I}

We are given a clue as to what He was talking about by what also happened right then.

The temple curtain was ripped from top to bottom.

The sacrificial system of animal sacrifices was finished. That had nothinbg to do with the Sabbath being finsihed.

The sabbath has been fulfilled (finished) through Jesus Christ.
You are free to worship on saturday. I am not condemned to worship on sunday. If you believe I'm condemned, you are free to believe that. -peace brother-

 

[spirit1st]

We are counted dead on the cross with the LORD!
We are bought and paid for.Our whole life is now HIS.Not a certain day.But I do know?He wants us to go to church
and take our familys.Any day is fine!
1Jo 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Pe 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
1Pe 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1Pe 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever.
NOTHING or any sin ,can touch this new creature,we are!if born of GOD!.HE protects us forever more.HE gets all the GLORY and honor?BECAUSE HE DOES EVERYTHING!

 

[PaleHorse]

The sabbath has been fulfilled (finished) through Jesus Christ.
You are free to worship on saturday. I am not condemned to worship on sunday. If you believe I'm condemned, you are free to believe that. -peace brother-

No, the Sabbath was not fulfilled by Christ, else He never would have made the comment He did in Matthew 24:20 (of which He was talking about a date roughly 40 years after His death on the cross) nor would Paul have told us in Hebrews 4:9 that the seventh-day Sabbath remained for Christians.

Thanks for playing though.