Which Day of the Week is the Sabbath? (2)

woobadooba · Dec 23, 2005

Bobby35 said:
God just wants you to give Him AT LEAST one day out of seven. It is not important to him which day you give him. But, he really wants each and every one of us to give him every day and if we do that, it makes every day the sabbath.

If it doesn't matter to God, then He wouldn't have blessed and sanctified the 7th day, but every day instead.

And He wouldn't have told us to keep the Sabbath day holy, but Sabbath days holy, if every day was equal to the Sabbath day.

BrightCandle · Dec 23, 2005

woobadooba said:
If it doesn't matter to God, then He wouldn't have blessed and sanctified the 7th day, but every day instead.

And He wouldn't have told us to keep the Sabbath day holy, but Sabbath days holy, if every day was equal to the Sabbath day.

Right on, Bro.

Normann · Dec 24, 2005

Bobby35 said:
God just wants you to give Him AT LEAST one day out of seven. It is not important to him which day you give him. But, he really wants each and every one of us to give him every day and if we do that, it makes every day the sabbath.

Cliff, read this one again and let's not worship a day, lets worship God.

Let's not honor a calendar and keep a calendar holy!

IN THE MASTER'S SERVICE,
Normann

Cliff2 · Dec 24, 2005

God just wants you to give Him AT LEAST one day out of seven. It is not important to him which day you give him. But, he really wants each and every one of us to give him every day and if we do that, it makes every day the sabbath. (Bobby35)

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Normann said:
Cliff, read this one again and let's not worship a day, lets worship God.

Let's not honor a calendar and keep a calendar holy!

IN THE MASTER'S SERVICE,
Normann

I am lost as to why you would think we worship a day.

We do not worship a day, we worship the Creator of the universe.

rstrats · Dec 24, 2005

Bobby35,

re: "It is not important to him which day you give him."

The children of Israel in Exodus 16 thought the same thing.

Cliff2 · Dec 24, 2005

rstrats said:
Bobby35,

re: "It is not important to him which day you give him."

The children of Israel in Exodus 16 thought the same thing.

Look at what happened to them.

Bobby35 · Dec 24, 2005

rstrats said:
Bobby35,

re: "It is not important to him which day you give him."

The children of Israel in Exodus 16 thought the same thing.

That was then. It is different now. (e.g. - we no longer need to live under the law)

Bobby35 · Dec 24, 2005

woobadooba said:
If it doesn't matter to God, then He wouldn't have blessed and sanctified the 7th day, but every day instead.

And He wouldn't have told us to keep the Sabbath day holy, but Sabbath days holy, if every day was equal to the Sabbath day.

You missed the point. The point is that we, as his children, should be giving him EVERY DAY, and that is what he deserves!

SpeakNow · Dec 24, 2005

Bobby35 said:
You missed the point. The point is that we, as his children, should be giving him EVERY DAY, and that is what he deserves!

Ask ANY Sabbath keeper if they give God EVERY DAY. You bet we do. He does deserve that and that is what He gets.

You're missing the point. You can't rest and cease from ALL work 7 days a week. You are to set aside one day, the day HE commanded, and keep it holy. If you cease from all work 7 days a week you aren't following the commandment.

woobadooba · Dec 24, 2005

Bobby35 said:
You missed the point. The point is that we, as his children, should be giving him EVERY DAY, and that is what he deserves!

No, I didn't miss the point. And I agree that we should give God every day; but you are wrong in thinking that there isn't one day that God prefers above all of the other days.

He only blessed and sanctified the 7th day, period!

rstrats · Dec 24, 2005

Bobby35,

re: "That was then. It is different now. (e.g. - we no longer need to live under the law)"

The law that contains the Sabbath command also contains the command to "not take the name of the Lord your God in vain". You mean that you really dont need to live in accordance with that command?

Normann · Dec 24, 2005

Cliff2 said:
It is Sabbath here in Australia so Happy Sabbath to everyone.

On Friday you told us it was Saturday in Austrailia. That's what I've tried to show you- your Saturday is our Friday, therefore we must wait one more day. Then our Saturday is your Sunday.

If I take my sabbath the same day you do then I am resting on Friday. If I take the Sabbath on my Saturday then that is your Sunday.

The Sabbath is not a certain day. It is the seventh day after six days of work. Saturday is not the Sabbath, neither is Sunday.

Exodus 20:9-10
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: [10] But the seventh day is the sabbath...

-and Cliff, this command is not found in the N. T.

IN THE MASTER'S SERVICE,
Normann

BrightCandle · Dec 24, 2005

Normann said:
On Friday you told us it was Saturday in Austrailia. That's what I've tried to show you- your Saturday is our Friday, therefore we must wait one more day. Then our Saturday is your Sunday.

If I take my sabbath the same day you do then I am resting on Friday. If I take the Sabbath on my Saturday then that is your Sunday.

The Sabbath is not a certain day. It is the seventh day after six days of work. Saturday is not the Sabbath, neither is Sunday.

Exodus 20:9-10
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: [10] But the seventh day is the sabbath...

-and Cliff, this command is not found in the N. T.

IN THE MASTER'S SERVICE,
Normann

Norman:

You are not thinking rationally. Don't try to make something so simple complicated by arguments that are not based on common sense. If you had lived during the time of Moses and the children of Israel, and when Moses presented the Ten Commandments written by Jesus' own finger in stone, would you have made the same lame excuse to Moses as you are to us here on CF, as to why you shouldn't keep the 7th day holy as Jesus commanded? I don't think so! You can know which day is the 7th day wherever you live on planet earth, why not start doing what is in your power to do, instead of coming up with all kinds of lame reasons why you can't keep the 7th day. Which begs the question: Do you really think that Jesus would have written the Sabbath commandment into stone if He knew that there was no way that we as humans could keep it? Our God doesn't play with us like pawns, or toys. He is our friend. For you to obey and do just what Jesus says to do should be a pleasure, and not something that you have think some of creative way of getting out of doing for Him.

rstrats · Dec 24, 2005

Normann,

re: "...this command is not found in the N.T."

Hebrews 4:9: "It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the sabbath" (Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text).

Cliff2 · Dec 25, 2005

Bobby35 said:
That was then. It is different now. (e.g. - we no longer need to live under the law)

That means according to your conclusion that there is no more sin in the world.

The Bible says that "sin is trangression of the law"

No more law, then no more sin.

When we look into the world we do not find that to be the case at all.

It seems like there is more sin than ever so it still looks like we have a law.

Normann · Dec 25, 2005

BrightCandle said:
Norman:
You are not thinking rationally. Don't try to make something so simple complicated by arguments that are not based on common sense.
....................

Matthew 13:13
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

BrightCandle: The word rational is to be examined as you said that I am not thinking rationally.

The word rational is synonymous with sensibly, realistically, brightly, and reason. To say one is not thinking rationally is very close to saying one it thinking foolishly.

It is very close to calling one a fool and the word fool is translated from the Hebrew (keciyl) meaning stupid or silly.

The SDA say that Saturday is the Sabbath, they have their worship service on Saturday.

Suppose two ships are in the water, one on the East side of the International Date Line the other boat on the West. The population of both of these ships are all SDA. It is Saturday on one side of the line and Sunday on the other. According to the teachings in this thread, which one of those groups will have their Sabbath on the correct day?

Regardless of which one, it then makes the other ship-load wrong as they will either not have a Sabbath at all or they will have it on the wrong day.

Now think rationally, BrightCandle. God did not command us to keep Saturday holy. The command to keep the Sabbath is not found in the N.T. The command to keep the Sabbath in the O.T. was not for a certain day and no certain day was named within the command.

Exodus 20:9 & 10
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work...
(First we are commanded to work 6 days)

[10] But the seventh day is the sabbath...

The seventh day after what?

Answer: The 7th day after working six days!

I forgive you for calling me a fool (indirectly).

2 Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

IN THE MASTER'S SERVICE,
Normann

rstrats · Dec 25, 2005

Normann,

You have questions directed to you in posts 430 and 436.

rstrats · Dec 25, 2005

Normann,

re: "The command to keep the Sabbath is not found in the N.T. "

Hebrews 4:9: "It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the sabbath" (Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text).

rstrats · Dec 25, 2005

Normann,

re: "...which one of those groups will have their Sabbath on the correct day?"

Both. You observe the Sabbath when the Sabbath gets to you.

rstrats · Dec 25, 2005

Normann,

Can you tell me why it is unreasonable to assume that the first seven days of Genesis 1 establish the seven day week? If it didn't start then, when did it start?

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