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Which bible?
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Obviously English versions are translations. Most modern translations are, to a first approximation, equally good. The ESV is probably a little better than most.
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Common sense might be helpful.
A question: do we have the original texts of the Old or the New Testaments?
If we do not have the originals, how can we have a completely "unchanged" version?
We have no such thing as a "pure" Bible. It's all Tradition. The books in the Bible are in there because it is what our forefathers, the Apostles, taught us to believe is the Word of God. And while it is very unified, and that is to its credit, let's face it: it's no Koran, nor a Book of Mormon. Those flashed into existence over less than half a century. All the books and chapters in those books are and were undisputed, period, in their circles. The Church had been debating if the letters of John, the Revelation, 2 Peter, Hebrews, etc were letters by the Apostles, or canonical. And they considered some books - like The Shepherd, and even the Book of Wisdom - as canonical New Testament. There was legitimate disagreement about canon. We don't have a magical book. We have a "magical" authority - or rather, miraculous. The Church. The bishops. The Successors of the Apostles. They gave us the Bible. God gave us the Bible through them.
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faroukfarouk
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The New American Standard Bible is the most literal translation (NASB). I grew up with the King James Version which can be hard to understand. It helps to compare translations. For example for certain verses I like how the Message version is down to Earth and easy to understand. The New Living Translation (NLT) is also very literal. Biblegateway.com provides the opportunity to see translations side by side. When you compare many of the translations the meaning or the message of the verse or passage that you are reading should be similar. The two versions that I read most often are the Apologetics Study Bible (Version: Holman Christian Standard Bible) that is really good for students and that provides a lot of good question and answer sections. The other is the Every Man's Battle Bible (Version: New Living Translation) (which is geared toward men but I like that it is easy to understand and yet it is still a good translation. This is a good question
For those unfamiliar with long narratives in Scripture, a more paraphrased version might have its uses. But for word for word study, verse by verse, it's good to use a more formal, word accurate version.
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