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Which Bible Would Jesus Use?

BryanW92

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Well, that the issue isn't?
So you say and so I say!
My witness as a Born Again Bible Believing Christian is that the King James Bible is the only word of God, it is the pure word of God, the pure language God promise. That is my testimony by the Holy Ghost!

So why are you trying to make us believe that? No one here has said that the KJV is not the pure word of God. But it is my testimony that any version of the bible is equally the pure language that God promises. It is not the printed word of the bible that matters. It is the interpretation given by the Holy Spirit to EACH believer that matters.

In the hands of a non-believer, your precious KJV (and every other version) is nothing but paper and ink. It is meaningless drivel to one who does not have the Holy Spirit. But, in the hands of a person who does have the Holy Spirit, any version is the pure language of God. With the counsel of the Holy Spirit, even The Message is the pure word of God.
 
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So why are you trying to make us believe that? No one here has said that the KJV is not the pure word of God. But it is my testimony that any version of the bible is equally the pure language that God promises. It is not the printed word of the bible that matters. It is the interpretation given by the Holy Spirit to EACH believer that matters.

In the hands of a non-believer, your precious KJV (and every other version) is nothing but paper and ink. It is meaningless drivel to one who does not have the Holy Spirit. But, in the hands of a person who does have the Holy Spirit, any version is the pure language of God. With the counsel of the Holy Spirit, even The Message is the pure word of God.

Frist as I have said before; knowing the terror of the Lord I am trying to persuade you.

Second your position is what I would call cognitive dissonance, which is holding two different positions and saying they are the same, except you have many different positions and saying they are all the same, I not sure what they would call that; maybe ........ no I can't think of anything polite to say what that is, sorry.
 
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Seriously, I apologize if you answered this already: Which version of the King James Bible? Which date/edition/printing/translation specifically, and why is it and other KJV not?

Yea I have answered it at nauseum; I suggest instead of trying to justify your position you might want to do something that might be a novelty to you; look for answers that debunk your position, with the internet you are without excuse, which I think God intended it to be that way in these extraordinary last days.
Believe me I have heard all the supposed questions that supposedly undermines my position. And I have verify my position against them all.
Hope you follow my advice; but I am not confident you will, but I hope you do.
 
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Frist as I have said before; knowing the terror of the Lord I am trying to persuade you.

Second your position is what I would call cognitive dissonance, which is holding two different positions and saying they are the same, except you have many different positions and saying they are all the same, I not sure what they would call that; maybe ........ no I can't think of anything polite to say what that is, sorry.

What on earth are you talking about? My position has been the same from the beginning and that's that all translations are still the Holy Bible. The inspired word was written in Hebrew and Greek, so all English versions are the best we have.
 
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Frist as I have said before; knowing the terror of the Lord I am trying to persuade you.

Second your position is what I would call cognitive dissonance, which is holding two different positions and saying they are the same, except you have many different positions and saying they are all the same, I not sure what they would call that; maybe ........ no I can't think of anything polite to say what that is, sorry.

The terror of the Lord for what? Not reading the KJV?

You're making a stretch now JL.

You also seem to be saying that God can not preserve His word in any other Bible other than the KJV. You are implying that our God is small and powerless. The God I serve is a big God, bigger than I can or anyone else for that matter can realize. He is also all powerful and had and is preserving His word for all generations in their vernacular which they can understand and they themselves speak fluently. We do not speak the King's English and for me at least the King's English is distracting and hampers my study of the Bible.

God lead me to the NKJV for that very reason. He knew what version I would read and continue to read and study.

I hold to the saying, "the best Bible to get is the one you will continually read." Our that version for you is the KJV , than good on ya. Just don't make a law out of something where there is freedom.
 
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What on earth are you talking about? My position has been the same from the beginning and that's that all translations are still the Holy Bible. The inspired word was written in Hebrew and Greek, so all English versions are the best we have.

Sorry Bryan, if you can't see it I don't have enough creditability with you to persuade you.

But you might consider that you are missing the point.
 
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First of all to all those that want to continue to ignore the fact of the misquote with very imaginable twist of the fact that I did not use the word “English” and that a more than a chide of inference was that I consider the King James Bible to be “the English language” if fact all you that use versions verify that you don’t really consider it English in its pure and present form.
That is why you all are correcting and adding and taking from it as a matter of your nature. You all consider it some old archaic form of English but not really the true English of today. You appose yourselves.

She misquoted me and that’s a fact.

And now to your polite question sir; what is “pure language of the King James”

1. Pure language is a phase you will find in the Holy Bible; it is a promise of God.
2. The promise is related to the pure word of God, which happens to be what is called the King James Bible; for reasons of and by many infallible proofs! (And that is your calling to rightly divide the one true word of God from versions)
3. All the words of God are pure, his word is very pure, thus a pure language.
4. The language by extension has never been spoken before, because it’s pure. (All other languages are confounded; including Hebrew and Greek)
5. The language is self-defining, because it’s pure.
6. The pure language is one and only original word of God connected to all God's promises, literally finish on the 6th day of creation, it is the work of God, purified in the furnace of earth.
7. The Holy Bible that we differentiate by calling it the King James Bible is God's pure language that he promise that contains all truth, is the truth and there is no other, it is truth, the word of truth, the word of God, wherein you can communion with God by the Holy Ghost in this world. (All others are feigned words, vain babblings that lead to more ungodliness)

Now if you want faith you must hear the word of God, if you want wisdom you must learn the language and if you want understanding well you must humble yourself and repent and believe God.

This pure language is not English; in fact, thinking you can understand God's pure language because you know how to speak English, well, you’re gravely mistaken and you hinder yourself, thinking you know something and you know nothing, it would be better if you didn’t know English, because your mind's renewing has been vexed, you literally need to be born again by the incorruptible word of God.
The devil, man, have worked very hard to redefine God's pure words, to pervert them, corrupt them and diminish them; using fleshly wisdom instead of spiritual discernment, by the same subtilty used in Eden.
The point is that if you will not believe earthly things, how are you ever going to believe spiritual things?

And that's all I care to share right now.

Wow that was good, sometimes is cool to go back and see just what the Holy Ghost prompted me to say.
 
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The terror of the Lord for what? Not reading the KJV?

You're making a stretch now JL.

You also seem to be saying that God can not preserve His word in any other Bible other than the KJV. You are implying that our God is small and powerless. The God I serve is a big God, bigger than I can or anyone else for that matter can realize. He is also all powerful and had and is preserving His word for all generations in their vernacular which they can understand and they themselves speak fluently. We do not speak the King's English and for me at least the King's English is distracting and hampers my study of the Bible.

God lead me to the NKJV for that very reason. He knew what version I would read and continue to read and study.

I hold to the saying, "the best Bible to get is the one you will continually read." Our that version for you is the KJV , than good on ya. Just don't make a law out of something where there is freedom.

You sure added a lot to your post; LOL, cool, LOL you are frilling it is a little comical.
If you would go back and critically look at what you are saying you would see you are trying to carry water in a broken vessel. What stood out the most to me was your accusation I was putting God in a box, funny that reminded me of Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
LOL I love how the word of God just lights up the truth!
 
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:confused: That would probably make more of an impact on other than your poor choice of words if we knew what you were talking about.

I was replying to:
Except the pure language found in the Holy Bible (King James Bible) never was a vulgar language, every word is pure.
And exactly WHAT makes it a poor choice of words?
 
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Sorry Bryan, if you can't see it I don't have enough creditability with you to persuade you.

But you might consider that you are missing the point.

Read the posts by all the other people in this thread. We can't all be missing the point. You aren't the first KJV-only person I've ever encountered. I even work with one of you. All of you say the same thing: "pure language", etc.
 
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If you would go back and critically look at what you are saying you would see you are trying to carry water in a broken vessel. What stood out the most to me was your accusation I was putting God in a box, funny that reminded me of Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
LOL I love how the word of God just lights up the truth!


The problem is that you are the only one judging. You have judged all versions of the bible to be wrong, except for the one you use. The rest of us say that your version is every bit as good as the version that each of us prefer.

As Boidae said, don't make a law where there is freedom. Those are the finest words of wisdom in this whole thread.
 
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Yea I have answered it at nauseum; I suggest instead of trying to justify your position you might want to do something that might be a novelty to you; look for answers that debunk your position, with the internet you are without excuse, which I think God intended it to be that way in these extraordinary last days.
Believe me I have heard all the supposed questions that supposedly undermines my position. And I have verify my position against them all.
Hope you follow my advice; but I am not confident you will, but I hope you do.

Sorry, I don't subscribe to your postings, I've not seen you answer the question of which edition, printing of the KJV you claim is the ONE. You could have answered that easier than your little rant here. If you truly believe you have special knowledge of the single true inspired and perfect word of God I'd think you'd jump at the chance to specify it.

So, which edition/printing/version of the King James Bible are you claiming to be THE Bible?
 
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JacobLaw said "The promise is related to the pure word of God, which happens to be what is called the King James Bible; for reasons of and by many infallible proofs! (And that is your calling to rightly divide the one true word of God from versions)"

This is total nonsense. The pure word of God just happens to be the KJV? It's sad that somebody like him finds one fallacious, contentious point then argues it ad infinitum just to keep the attention on himself. I could say, for example, that only leather bibles that have Christ's words in red were the true word of God, and that all other bibles were the work of the devil. Why? Because Jesus came in the flesh and shed his blood for sinners. But I won't. Why? Because I don't have a weak ego that needs to have the constant attention of others.
 
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I was replying to:

I see. Thank you for elaborating. :)
And exactly WHAT makes it a poor choice of words?
Posting, 'rot and idolatrous rot at that', without any context whatever. Such as that which would have been afforded had you quoted the individual to whom you were addressing your remarks.
 
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So none of you read the book ? OK

I read the reviews on Amazon. That's enough for me. This kind of unfounded nonsense has been around forever. Teams of Christian scholars have devoted their adult lives to bring us the best translations using the best available sources, coupled with a knowledge of the languages and cultures in which they were written, along with a thorough understanding of the receptor language and culture. So some guy comes along and claims that the best modern scholarship is all wrong, based on a few isolated verses that are notoriously difficult, based on conflicting sources and unclear meaning.


You believe him. Fine, go ahead. But don't preach to the rest of us that the King James Version is the pure revelation from God. Based on the finest translation work by the best scholars using the best techniques, it isn't.
 
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I read the reviews on Amazon.

I didn't even get to the reviews. I got this part of the book description:

Everyone's got an opinion as to which Bible is best.
And because of all the glaring differences and discrepancies in the different Bible versions, the Lord himself is forced to pick just one of them.
The funny thing is that hardly anyone ever considers the opinion of the Lord Jesus Christ. Don't you think he has a preference? Which Bible Would Jesus Use? proves that he does. And you can depend upon him to pick the "right one."
Which one would he use? The evidence shows that it's the same brand he's been using for the past 400 years.


That was so absurd that I just had to stop reading. It's like something that they'd say on a Saturday Night Live skit to ridicule Christians.
 
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That's because he hasn't, and notice how he avoided answering the question again when you asked it earlier.

I didn't know if he had or had not, I did suspect that he had not... I would not be surprised if he refuses to answer. I wish he would answer.
 
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