Which are "saved by works"

[SuperBunny]

Which denominations are "saved by faith and works"?

 

[Rafael]

None. Nobody or no organization is saved bytheir works, but we are saved unto good works. A person who is saved will do the works because of a new heart, being born again into the family of God. No one can work their way into heaven, but they can receive the free gift of God that Jesus provided as a substitute sacrifice or payment for our sins. The good works just follow. To put the works before Jesus would mean that we don't need a Savior and that we are good enough and sinless on our own merits to gain salvation. There is salvation in one name only - Jesus. Works are the natural result of a changed heart that wants to obey God in all things. They follow the works of their master, Jesus, who freed the captive, healed the sick, fed the poor, and basically gave His life to others. Our example is Christ.

 

[de Unamuno]

None. Nobody or no organization is saved bytheir works, but we are saved unto good works. A person who is saved will do the works because of a new heart, being born again into the family of God. No one can work their way into heaven, but they can receive the free gift of God that Jesus provided as a substitute sacrifice or payment for our sins. The good works just follow. To put the works before Jesus would mean that we don't need a Savior and that we are good enough and sinless on our own merits to gain salvation. There is salvation in one name only - Jesus. Works are the natural result of a changed heart that wants to obey God in all things. They follow the works of their master, Jesus, who freed the captive, healed the sick, fed the poor, and basically gave His life to others. Our example is Christ.

Actually, the majority of Christians believe in some sort of justification through Faith and Works. Catholics, Orthodox, Anglican, Episcopal, and other major Christian bodies all believe in, first, faith in Jesus, then through that faith, a continuous working out of salvation through works. Works can mean simply good deeds or litergy (i.e. Mass, Eucharest, Confession, etc), but it often implies both.

The important thing to note about F + W is that faith precedes EVERYTHING, and that the grace of God allows us to accomplish the works (we cannot accomplish them by ourselves). Still, the difference from what Raphe just described is that work requires one's willful participation to continue to reconcile oneself with God. Faith alone just requires you to believe and everything else is, ultimately, optional. At least, that's how I understand it.

 

[SirFei]

James 2:14-26....

Faith Without Works Is Dead
14What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble! 20But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." And he was called the friend of God. 24You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

 

[pcwilkins]

On top of both of those, which I would agree with, I would say that many Christians deny salvation by works, but still say we 'have to accept Christ' in order to be saved. That is a work, in my opinion. Salvation cannot be earned by 'accepting Christ' - it is not by the will of man, but by God.

PCW

 

[de Unamuno]

No-one is now saved by works. We are saved by grace alone through faith alone. One of the biggest lies is that the dispensation of law still applies to the dispensation of grace.

Regards,

OK, I've seen this before from some Protestants... You seem to think the Catholic Church keeps laws. You also make a jump from "faith plus works" to "faith plus works plus law". Why is that? Do you see works and law as the same thing? Perhaps you can define "law", so I know what you are talking about exactly?

I'm curious because so many people seem to label the RCC as legalistic, but I don't think they really know what they mean by that.

 

[Joj]

Premildispensationalist? I Like it Richard. Me too!

Mid acts dispy or what?

His.............Joj

 

[hraedisc]

Which denominations are "saved by faith and works"?

What gives you the idea that denominations will be "saved"?

 

[Lyle]

Works back up faith.. For faith without works is dead.. The Greek word means "useless." I can say I'm one thing and act another, would you believe what i said was true?

Romans 3:20
"By the deeds of the law shall no man be justified.."

 

[Reformationist]

Which denominations are "saved by faith and works"?

Do you mean "Which denominations claim to be saved by faith and works" or which actually are saved by faith and works?

God bless