Where's the line between struggling with sin and being scrupulous?

[jerry kelso]

The Dispensational context is not truth it is a lie.

You don't seem to understand that you speak Dispensational and I speak English, every word you use has a Dispensational concept attached and I am not familiar with Dispensationalism and have no interest in it.

In John 6, what do you think the apostles were there with their fingers in their ears so that they couldn't hear what Jesus was saying to the Jews; you are totally irrational.

As I have said before the difference between the KoH and the KoG is to do with grammar and semantics; the kingdom is the same, the government and Law is the same, one tells where the kingdom is the other tells who owns it or who the king is. Heaven is not a literal place other than it is the dwelling place of God but as God move around so does His dwelling place. The Babylonians give Heaven 7 physical existences, which includes Paul's third heaven.

You keep putting the onus of determining what Paul meant by "I die daily". Paul means nothing to me and I want nothing from him and I see his dying daily as more of his ceaseless self testimony.

sparow,

1. You are not familiar with dispensationalism and yet you listen to someone who disses dispensationalism and you are not interested in dispensationalism and yet you call dispensationalism a lie. You may speak english but obviously you can't comprehend english or biblical context.

2. John 6 you made a non context statement trying to be insulting and it don't make any sense. You cannot rebut the scriptures and so all you can do is try to make statements that don't make no sense and that you cannot prove according to the scripture. You are the one being unreasonable and irrational and not truthful.

3. Grammar and semantics? From what you have been posting I don't really think you understand proper grammar or what semantics is.

4. The government and the kingdom are two different geographical places. The spiritual aspect is the same as far as authority for the authority comes from God out of Heaven.

5. God owns everything in his creation and the king is Jesus the Messiah.

6. Heaven is a real geographical place and Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world. If there is no heaven and he moves around why did he translate Enoch to heaven and Elijah to heaven and he has gone to prepare a place for us so we could be with him and the bible says that Heaven is in the far north and in the beginning God created the Heaven. Heaven is his throne and earth is his footstool. John was caught up to heaven etc. What bible do you read?

7. Just because there is more than one kind of Heaven doesn't mean there is not a planet called Heaven where God dwells. Read a real bible.

8. Paul means nothing to you and yet he preached the same thing as the other disciples of what Jesus told them when he was preparing them for when he would go back to heaven where his kingdom was and would send the Holy Spirit.

9. He was given more revelation than Peter and them concerning the things of the church of jews and gentiles
and this is why Peter said Paul said things that were hard to understand but he knew Paul was of God and he listened to Paul and Paul even called him down when Peter was wrong by being a respect of persons and Peter repented and fell in line. So to make a statement you have no use for Paul is willful ignorance and not even trying to rightly divide the word properly.

10. I die daily has nothing to do with a ceaseless self testimony for he gloried only in the cross. I will give you one more opportunity to tell me nothing but what Paul meant by I die daily and what scriptures harmonizes with it and explains what it means specifically. Do you think it has to do with a spiritual or physical application? Do you think that you could die physically everyday? Tell me or at least try and if you can't you don't need to be posting because you have no knowledge of rightly dividing the word. Try one more time. Jerry Kelso

 

[Dispy]

sparow,

1. You are not familiar with dispensationalism and yet you listen to someone who disses dispensationalism and you are not interested in dispensationalism and yet you call dispensationalism a lie. You may speak english but obviously you can't comprehend english or biblical context.

2. John 6 you made a non context statement trying to be insulting and it don't make any sense. You cannot rebut the scriptures and so all you can do is try to make statements that don't make no sense and that you cannot prove according to the scripture. You are the one being unreasonable and irrational and not truthful.

3. Grammar and semantics? From what you have been posting I don't really think you understand proper grammar or what semantics is.

4. The government and the kingdom are two different geographical places. The spiritual aspect is the same as far as authority for the authority comes from God out of Heaven.

5. God owns everything in his creation and the king is Jesus the Messiah.

6. Heaven is a real geographical place and Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world. If there is no heaven and he moves around why did he translate Enoch to heaven and Elijah to heaven and he has gone to prepare a place for us so we could be with him and the bible says that Heaven is in the far north and in the beginning God created the Heaven. Heaven is his throne and earth is his footstool. John was caught up to heaven etc. What bible do you read?

7. Just because there is more than one kind of Heaven doesn't mean there is not a planet called Heaven where God dwells. Read a real bible.

8. Paul means nothing to you and yet he preached the same thing as the other disciples of what Jesus told them when he was preparing them for when he would go back to heaven where his kingdom was and would send the Holy Spirit.

9. He was given more revelation than Peter and them concerning the things of the church of jews and gentiles
and this is why Peter said Paul said things that were hard to understand but he knew Paul was of God and he listened to Paul and Paul even called him down when Peter was wrong by being a respect of persons and Peter repented and fell in line. So to make a statement you have no use for Paul is willful ignorance and not even trying to rightly divide the word properly.

10. I die daily has nothing to do with a ceaseless self testimony for he gloried only in the cross. I will give you one more opportunity to tell me nothing but what Paul meant by I die daily and what scriptures harmonizes with it and explains what it means specifically. Do you think it has to do with a spiritual or physical application? Tell me or at least try and if you can't you don't need to be posting because you have no knowledge of rightly dividing the word. Try one more time. Jerry Kelso

sparow,

1. You are not familiar with dispensationalism and yet you listen to someone who disses dispensationalism and you are not interested in dispensationalism and yet you call dispensationalism a lie. You may speak english but obviously you can't comprehend english or biblical context.

2. John 6 you made a non context statement trying to be insulting and it don't make any sense. You cannot rebut the scriptures and so all you can do is try to make statements that don't make no sense and that you cannot prove according to the scripture. You are the one being unreasonable and irrational and not truthful.

3. Grammar and semantics? From what you have been posting I don't really think you understand proper grammar or what semantics is.

4. The government and the kingdom are two different geographical places. The spiritual aspect is the same as far as authority for the authority comes from God out of Heaven.

5. God owns everything in his creation and the king is Jesus the Messiah.

6. Heaven is a real geographical place and Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world. If there is no heaven and he moves around why did he translate Enoch to heaven and Elijah to heaven and he has gone to prepare a place for us so we could be with him and the bible says that Heaven is in the far north and in the beginning God created the Heaven. Heaven is his throne and earth is his footstool. John was caught up to heaven etc. What bible do you read?

7. Just because there is more than one kind of Heaven doesn't mean there is not a planet called Heaven where God dwells. Read a real bible.

8. Paul means nothing to you and yet he preached the same thing as the other disciples of what Jesus told them when he was preparing them for when he would go back to heaven where his kingdom was and would send the Holy Spirit.

9. He was given more revelation than Peter and them concerning the things of the church of jews and gentiles
and this is why Peter said Paul said things that were hard to understand but he knew Paul was of God and he listened to Paul and Paul even called him down when Peter was wrong by being a respect of persons and Peter repented and fell in line. So to make a statement you have no use for Paul is willful ignorance and not even trying to rightly divide the word properly.

10. I die daily has nothing to do with a ceaseless self testimony for he gloried only in the cross. I will give you one more opportunity to tell me nothing but what Paul meant by I die daily and what scriptures harmonizes with it and explains what it means specifically. Do you think it has to do with a spiritual or physical application? Tell me or at least try and if you can't you don't need to be posting because you have no knowledge of rightly dividing the word. Try one more time. Jerry Kelso

sparow,

1. You are not familiar with dispensationalism and yet you listen to someone who disses dispensationalism and you are not interested in dispensationalism and yet you call dispensationalism a lie. You may speak english but obviously you can't comprehend english or biblical context.

2. John 6 you made a non context statement trying to be insulting and it don't make any sense. You cannot rebut the scriptures and so all you can do is try to make statements that don't make no sense and that you cannot prove according to the scripture. You are the one being unreasonable and irrational and not truthful.

3. Grammar and semantics? From what you have been posting I don't really think you understand proper grammar or what semantics is.

4. The government and the kingdom are two different geographical places. The spiritual aspect is the same as far as authority for the authority comes from God out of Heaven.

5. God owns everything in his creation and the king is Jesus the Messiah.

6. Heaven is a real geographical place and Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world. If there is no heaven and he moves around why did he translate Enoch to heaven and Elijah to heaven and he has gone to prepare a place for us so we could be with him and the bible says that Heaven is in the far north and in the beginning God created the Heaven. Heaven is his throne and earth is his footstool. John was caught up to heaven etc. What bible do you read?

7. Just because there is more than one kind of Heaven doesn't mean there is not a planet called Heaven where God dwells. Read a real bible.

8. Paul means nothing to you and yet he preached the same thing as the other disciples of what Jesus told them when he was preparing them for when he would go back to heaven where his kingdom was and would send the Holy Spirit.

9. He was given more revelation than Peter and them concerning the things of the church of jews and gentiles
and this is why Peter said Paul said things that were hard to understand but he knew Paul was of God and he listened to Paul and Paul even called him down when Peter was wrong by being a respect of persons and Peter repented and fell in line. So to make a statement you have no use for Paul is willful ignorance and not even trying to rightly divide the word properly.

10. I die daily has nothing to do with a ceaseless self testimony for he gloried only in the cross. I will give you one more opportunity to tell me nothing but what Paul meant by I die daily and what scriptures harmonizes with it and explains what it means specifically. Do you think it has to do with a spiritual or physical application? Tell me or at least try and if you can't you don't need to be posting because you have no knowledge of rightly dividing the word. Try one more time. Jerry Kelso

sparow,

1. You are not familiar with dispensationalism and yet you listen to someone who disses dispensationalism and you are not interested in dispensationalism and yet you call dispensationalism a lie. You may speak english but obviously you can't comprehend english or biblical context.

2. John 6 you made a non context statement trying to be insulting and it don't make any sense. You cannot rebut the scriptures and so all you can do is try to make statements that don't make no sense and that you cannot prove according to the scripture. You are the one being unreasonable and irrational and not truthful.

3. Grammar and semantics? From what you have been posting I don't really think you understand proper grammar or what semantics is.

4. The government and the kingdom are two different geographical places. The spiritual aspect is the same as far as authority for the authority comes from God out of Heaven.

5. God owns everything in his creation and the king is Jesus the Messiah.

6. Heaven is a real geographical place and Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world. If there is no heaven and he moves around why did he translate Enoch to heaven and Elijah to heaven and he has gone to prepare a place for us so we could be with him and the bible says that Heaven is in the far north and in the beginning God created the Heaven. Heaven is his throne and earth is his footstool. John was caught up to heaven etc. What bible do you read?

7. Just because there is more than one kind of Heaven doesn't mean there is not a planet called Heaven where God dwells. Read a real bible.

8. Paul means nothing to you and yet he preached the same thing as the other disciples of what Jesus told them when he was preparing them for when he would go back to heaven where his kingdom was and would send the Holy Spirit.

9. He was given more revelation than Peter and them concerning the things of the church of jews and gentiles
and this is why Peter said Paul said things that were hard to understand but he knew Paul was of God and he listened to Paul and Paul even called him down when Peter was wrong by being a respect of persons and Peter repented and fell in line. So to make a statement you have no use for Paul is willful ignorance and not even trying to rightly divide the word properly.

10. I die daily has nothing to do with a ceaseless self testimony for he gloried only in the cross. I will give you one more opportunity to tell me nothing but what Paul meant by I die daily and what scriptures harmonizes with it and explains what it means specifically. Do you think it has to do with a spiritual or physical application? Tell me or at least try and if you can't you don't need to be posting because you have no knowledge of rightly dividing the word. Try one more time. Jerry Kelso

I have requested several time to have my user name (DISPY) removed from the christianforum.com web site. Apparently no one can read.

 

[jerry kelso]

I have requested several time to have my user name (DISPY) removed from the christianforum.com web site. Apparently no one can read.

dispy,
who is using your name? I was talking to sparow. Jerry Kelso

 

[Dispy]

sparow,

1. You are not familiar with dispensationalism and yet you listen to someone who disses dispensationalism and you are not interested in dispensationalism and yet you call dispensationalism a lie. You may speak english but obviously you can't comprehend english or biblical context.

2. John 6 you made a non context statement trying to be insulting and it don't make any sense. You cannot rebut the scriptures and so all you can do is try to make statements that don't make no sense and that you cannot prove according to the scripture. You are the one being unreasonable and irrational and not truthful.

3. Grammar and semantics? From what you have been posting I don't really think you understand proper grammar or what semantics is.

4. The government and the kingdom are two different geographical places. The spiritual aspect is the same as far as authority for the authority comes from God out of Heaven.

5. God owns everything in his creation and the king is Jesus the Messiah.

6. Heaven is a real geographical place and Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world. If there is no heaven and he moves around why did he translate Enoch to heaven and Elijah to heaven and he has gone to prepare a place for us so we could be with him and the bible says that Heaven is in the far north and in the beginning God created the Heaven. Heaven is his throne and earth is his footstool. John was caught up to heaven etc. What bible do you read?

7. Just because there is more than one kind of Heaven doesn't mean there is not a planet called Heaven where God dwells. Read a real bible.

8. Paul means nothing to you and yet he preached the same thing as the other disciples of what Jesus told them when he was preparing them for when he would go back to heaven where his kingdom was and would send the Holy Spirit.

9. He was given more revelation than Peter and them concerning the things of the church of jews and gentiles
and this is why Peter said Paul said things that were hard to understand but he knew Paul was of God and he listened to Paul and Paul even called him down when Peter was wrong by being a respect of persons and Peter repented and fell in line. So to make a statement you have no use for Paul is willful ignorance and not even trying to rightly divide the word properly.

10. I die daily has nothing to do with a ceaseless self testimony for he gloried only in the cross. I will give you one more opportunity to tell me nothing but what Paul meant by I die daily and what scriptures harmonizes with it and explains what it means specifically. Do you think it has to do with a spiritual or physical application? Do you think that you could die physically everyday? Tell me or at least try and if you can't you don't need to be posting because you have no knowledge of rightly dividing the word. Try one more time. Jerry Kelso

I have requested several time to have my user name (DISPY) removed from the christianforum.com web site. Apparently no one can read.

 

[Dispy]

The Dispensational context is not truth it is a lie.

You don't seem to understand that you speak Dispensational and I speak English, every word you use has a Dispensational concept attached and I am not familiar with Dispensationalism and have no interest in it.

In John 6, what do you think the apostles were there with their fingers in their ears so that they couldn't hear what Jesus was saying to the Jews; you are totally irrational.

As I have said before the difference between the KoH and the KoG is to do with grammar and semantics; the kingdom is the same, the government and Law is the same, one tells where the kingdom is the other tells who owns it or who the king is. Heaven is not a literal place other than it is the dwelling place of God but as God move around so does His dwelling place. The Babylonians give Heaven 7 physical existences, which includes Paul's third heaven.

You keep putting the onus of determining what Paul meant by "I die daily". Paul means nothing to me and I want nothing from him and I see his dying daily as more of his ceaseless self testimony.

I have requested several time to have my user name (DISPY) removed from the christianforum.com web site. Apparently no one can read.

 

[jerry kelso]

I have requested several time to have my user name (DISPY) removed from the christianforum.com web site. Apparently no one can read.

dispensational is not dispy.

 

[sparow]

sparow,

1. You are not familiar with dispensationalism and yet you listen to someone who disses dispensationalism and you are not interested in dispensationalism and yet you call dispensationalism a lie. You may speak english but obviously you can't comprehend english or biblical context.

2. John 6 you made a non context statement trying to be insulting and it don't make any sense. You cannot rebut the scriptures and so all you can do is try to make statements that don't make no sense and that you cannot prove according to the scripture. You are the one being unreasonable and irrational and not truthful.

3. Grammar and semantics? From what you have been posting I don't really think you understand proper grammar or what semantics is.

4. The government and the kingdom are two different geographical places. The spiritual aspect is the same as far as authority for the authority comes from God out of Heaven.

5. God owns everything in his creation and the king is Jesus the Messiah.

6. Heaven is a real geographical place and Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world. If there is no heaven and he moves around why did he translate Enoch to heaven and Elijah to heaven and he has gone to prepare a place for us so we could be with him and the bible says that Heaven is in the far north and in the beginning God created the Heaven. Heaven is his throne and earth is his footstool. John was caught up to heaven etc. What bible do you read?

7. Just because there is more than one kind of Heaven doesn't mean there is not a planet called Heaven where God dwells. Read a real bible.

8. Paul means nothing to you and yet he preached the same thing as the other disciples of what Jesus told them when he was preparing them for when he would go back to heaven where his kingdom was and would send the Holy Spirit.

9. He was given more revelation than Peter and them concerning the things of the church of jews and gentiles
and this is why Peter said Paul said things that were hard to understand but he knew Paul was of God and he listened to Paul and Paul even called him down when Peter was wrong by being a respect of persons and Peter repented and fell in line. So to make a statement you have no use for Paul is willful ignorance and not even trying to rightly divide the word properly.

10. I die daily has nothing to do with a ceaseless self testimony for he gloried only in the cross. I will give you one more opportunity to tell me nothing but what Paul meant by I die daily and what scriptures harmonizes with it and explains what it means specifically. Do you think it has to do with a spiritual or physical application? Do you think that you could die physically everyday? Tell me or at least try and if you can't you don't need to be posting because you have no knowledge of rightly dividing the word. Try one more time. Jerry Kelso

It is true that I an not familiar with Dispensationalism; but I am not familiar with the epistles of Paul and not familiar with the Koran either.

For my purposes I know what Dispensationalism is; dispensations are time divided into segments with each segment called a dispensation. Dispensationalism fills the segments up with sliced and diced and replatted scripture (doctrine of men).

2. From your response I cannot determine whether you are very young or very old but since you are offended I wont take John 6 any further.

3. Pants is an American semantic, where I come from Pants is/was slang; what you call pants I call trousers. One of the beliefs of Pentecostals is "in the interest of modesty women should not wear pants"; around here people would know what was meant from context but semantically, here, that would mean women should not wear knickers.

4. You continue to demonstrate we do not speak the same language.

6. You are not dividing the word of God correctly; try using the word of God as the bread of life and see what you grow into.
Jesus said to the Jews, "The kingdom of heaven is within you." Are you suggesting Jewish innards are geographical.

7. The number of heavens are not important, it is that God didn't number them; the numbering of the heavens is Pagan/Babylonian. The Bible is abstract and concise and when translated, only approximate; I leave the Bible that way.

I reply to your posts because I consider it impolite not to but I am probably breaking rules in the process and I am mystified how I am on this thread anyway.

Paul the person belongs to the first century and has no business with me; even if I were a gentile.

Paul the epistle means false doctrine to me and it wouldn't matter if he didn't do or say anything wrong; Paul is brilliant I agree. Even though 30,000 Christian sects use Paul to authenticate their peculiar false doctrine, Paul is only at fault (apart from introducing "The Word" division) in that he can be interpreted any which way with equal validity.

A false prophet need only deceive on one point, but even if he were perfect in every way but sent by Satan, wouldn't that embarrass Christ?

Peter was the first of the very elect to be deceived, after Christ having warned him. The historical account of Acts show Paul was a surprise to Peter. One person had a dream about Paul but this was after the fact of the Road to Damascus angel of light event and it wasn't the apostles who had their feet washed who were told.

My position on Paul has nothing to do with dividing or interpreting scripture but retrospectively I have tried to find scriptural evidence to support my position.

Jn 13:19-20 establishes that in relation to Jesus sending someone to the apostles, in order that the apostles can know that Jesus sent that someone Jesus has to forewarn the apostles; as far as the recorded words of Christ is concerned Paul's coming is not prophesised in the Gospels or historised in Revelation; Paul was not sent by God and is not authorised.

 

[jerry kelso]

It is true that I an not familiar with Dispensationalism; but I am not familiar with the epistles of Paul and not familiar with the Koran either.

For my purposes I know what Dispensationalism is; dispensations are time divided into segments with each segment called a dispensation. Dispensationalism fills the segments up with sliced and diced and replatted scripture (doctrine of men).

2. From your response I cannot determine whether you are very young or very old but since you are offended I wont take John 6 any further.

3. Pants is an American semantic, where I come from Pants is/was slang; what you call pants I call trousers. One of the beliefs of Pentecostals is "in the interest of modesty women should not wear pants"; around here people would know what was meant from context but semantically, here, that would mean women should not wear knickers.

4. You continue to demonstrate we do not speak the same language.

6. You are not dividing the word of God correctly; try using the word of God as the bread of life and see what you grow into.
Jesus said to the Jews, "The kingdom of heaven is within you." Are you suggesting Jewish innards are geographical.

7. The number of heavens are not important, it is that God didn't number them; the numbering of the heavens is Pagan/Babylonian. The Bible is abstract and concise and when translated, only approximate; I leave the Bible that way.

I reply to your posts because I consider it impolite not to but I am probably breaking rules in the process and I am mystified how I am on this thread anyway.

Paul the person belongs to the first century and has no business with me; even if I were a gentile.

Paul the epistle means false doctrine to me and it wouldn't matter if he didn't do or say anything wrong; Paul is brilliant I agree. Even though 30,000 Christian sects use Paul to authenticate their peculiar false doctrine, Paul is only at fault (apart from introducing "The Word" division) in that he can be interpreted any which way with equal validity.

A false prophet need only deceive on one point, but even if he were perfect in every way but sent by Satan, wouldn't that embarrass Christ?

Peter was the first of the very elect to be deceived, after Christ having warned him. The historical account of Acts show Paul was a surprise to Peter. One person had a dream about Paul but this was after the fact of the Road to Damascus angel of light event and it wasn't the apostles who had their feet washed who were told.

My position on Paul has nothing to do with dividing or interpreting scripture but retrospectively I have tried to find scriptural evidence to support my position.

Jn 13:19-20 establishes that in relation to Jesus sending someone to the apostles, in order that the apostles can know that Jesus sent that someone Jesus has to forewarn the apostles; as far as the recorded words of Christ is concerned Paul's coming is not prophesised in the Gospels or historised in Revelation; Paul was not sent by God and is not authorised.

sparow,

1. I do not believe every jot and tittle a dispensationalist believes.

2. I do believe in dispensations as a stewardship of how God deals with men in different ages by gradual revelation of the unfolding of his redemptive plan.

3. For your purposes of what you know about dispensationalism is conjecture and opinion and that is why it is for your purpose and satisfaction. There are extremes to many doctrines whether it be eternal security or water baptism etc. So your statement about doctrine of men is just your opinion and not necessarily a biblical fact.

4. I've been around long enough and I am not a novice. You can be young and ignorant (lack of understanding) or old and remain ignorant (lack of understanding) by having tunnel vision.

5. By the way, I am not offended at difference in belief. You are not going to hurt my feelings personally. All I ask is to be fair in exegesis and debut and rebuttable to the scripture and logic in the scripture by understanding context and reconciling the scriptures together on the subject.

6. You say I don't understand how to rightly divide the word. You use the KoH is within you when the scripture says the KoG is within you Luke 17:21. This is the spiritual aspect of the KoG. The physical KoG is the universe and the physical KoH is the earthly sphere and the earthly reign on earth. This was a main theme all throughout the jews history and promise through the Abrahamic Covenant and Davidic covenants.
You misquoted the scripture and you don't have no knowledge of the jews promises that are eternal according to the land (Abrahamic Covenant) and the kingdom on earth (Davidic Covenant). Genesis 12-15; 1 Chronicles 28:6-7; Isaiah 2:2-4; Isaiah 9:6-7 and many more. You are the one that are showing they don't know the scripture and how to rightly divide the word.

7. You obviously do not understand Paul at all. Paul was more than well respected by Peter and the other disciples. When Peter walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, Paul called him on it and Peter respected him and got himself right. The death, burial, and resurrection was the gospel that all the apostles preached which was the law of Christ of the new covenant in his blood. Paul never taught false doctrine.

8. Paul not sent by God? If that was true Peter and the apostles would have not had anything to do with him and Peter wouldn't have listened to him when he was a respect of persons in the early church.

9. The apostles were the disciples when they started following Jesus. Paul is the apostle of the resurrection for it was after the resurrection. Paul was an apostle chosen by God and he was given revelations and visions and about being caught up to paradise. Galatians tells us that Paul was in Arabia and God gave him the understanding of redemption and the mystery of Christ and the difference between the law of Moses and the new covenant. Then he went to Peter after 3 years when Paul went up to Jerusalem and stayed with him 15 days. Peter knew Paul was in agreement with what he preached. Peter said there were things hard to understand that Paul said but he knew Paul spoke the truth. You have no scriptural basis to say Paul taught false doctrine. Your misquoting the scripture and lack of the history of the covenant to the nation of Israel and just your conjecture and opinion instead of the biblical truth is not credible. Jerry kelso

 

[sparow]

sparow,

1. I do not believe every jot and tittle a dispensationalist believes.

2. I do believe in dispensations as a stewardship of how God deals with men in different ages by gradual revelation of the unfolding of his redemptive plan.

3. For your purposes of what you know about dispensationalism is conjecture and opinion and that is why it is for your purpose and satisfaction. There are extremes to many doctrines whether it be eternal security or water baptism etc. So your statement about doctrine of men is just your opinion and not necessarily a biblical fact.

4. I've been around long enough and I am not a novice. You can be young and ignorant (lack of understanding) or old and remain ignorant (lack of understanding) by having tunnel vision.

5. By the way, I am not offended at difference in belief. You are not going to hurt my feelings personally. All I ask is to be fair in exegesis and debut and rebuttable to the scripture and logic in the scripture by understanding context and reconciling the scriptures together on the subject.

6. You say I don't understand how to rightly divide the word. You use the KoH is within you when the scripture says the KoG is within you Luke 17:21. This is the spiritual aspect of the KoG. The physical KoG is the universe and the physical KoH is the earthly sphere and the earthly reign on earth. This was a main theme all throughout the jews history and promise through the Abrahamic Covenant and Davidic covenants.
You misquoted the scripture and you don't have no knowledge of the jews promises that are eternal according to the land (Abrahamic Covenant) and the kingdom on earth (Davidic Covenant). Genesis 12-15; 1 Chronicles 28:6-7; Isaiah 2:2-4; Isaiah 9:6-7 and many more. You are the one that are showing they don't know the scripture and how to rightly divide the word.

7. You obviously do not understand Paul at all. Paul was more than well respected by Peter and the other disciples. When Peter walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, Paul called him on it and Peter respected him and got himself right. The death, burial, and resurrection was the gospel that all the apostles preached which was the law of Christ of the new covenant in his blood. Paul never taught false doctrine.

8. Paul not sent by God? If that was true Peter and the apostles would have not had anything to do with him and Peter wouldn't have listened to him when he was a respect of persons in the early church.

9. The apostles were the disciples when they started following Jesus. Paul is the apostle of the resurrection for it was after the resurrection. Paul was an apostle chosen by God and he was given revelations and visions and about being caught up to paradise. Galatians tells us that Paul was in Arabia and God gave him the understanding of redemption and the mystery of Christ and the difference between the law of Moses and the new covenant. Then he went to Peter after 3 years when Paul went up to Jerusalem and stayed with him 15 days. Peter knew Paul was in agreement with what he preached. Peter said there were things hard to understand that Paul said but he knew Paul spoke the truth. You have no scriptural basis to say Paul taught false doctrine. Your misquoting the scripture and lack of the history of the covenant to the nation of Israel and just your conjecture and opinion instead of the biblical truth is not credible. Jerry kelso

6. I don't believe I said any such thing, I certainly didn't mean to. I would expect you would understand and rightly divide the word perfectly. What I am saying is it is a false doctrine and you are an expert in it. Dispensationalists use this license from Paul, even though they may misunderstand, as a weapon of mass destruction, the destruction of Gods word; of course they don't hurt God the just lead many down a wrong road.

I used Luke 17:21 to dispute what you said. Your Dispensational teachings are fundamentally flawed; you talk about unconditional promises. Everything about God is subject to covenant; nothing is unconditional. You are showing you are a Dispensationalist and have rightly divided the word of God until it is unrecognisable.

7. If I were a respecter of persons Paul would not be the person. "Paul was more than well respected by Peter and the other disciples", This establishes how great was Satan's deception, deceiving even the very elect. For false doctrine Paul taught, "rightly dividing the word", and "the Gospel of non-circumcision", for starters.

8. Your statement does not prove anything except how good a deceiver Paul was.

9. You are using Paul as his own witness; Paul said he is a good person so you believe; you don't understand what deception is. Let me ask you this, does your new covenant embrace the Law of God or does your new covenant abrogate the Law? Now no slicing and dicing and no rightly dividing the word just yes it abrogates the Law of God or no it does not abrogate God's. Law.

Central to the New Covenant is the 70th week of Daniel's prophesy; is the 70th week where Jesus confirms His New Covenant or is the 70th week thrown down to the end of time where Satan confirms a covenant? God did not create this two way bet, men have, starting with the Jesuit priest Ribera and the by Dispensationalism. Without this funny business the New covenant is seen confirmed at Christ's death and the fictitious new covenant you have may not have eventuated.