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You show a seriously poor understanding of science.
Hint. More usual evo rhetoric that you can't prove.
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You show a seriously poor understanding of evolutionary theory.
Hint: what you just said is not what evolutionary theory espouses. POPULATIONS evolve NOT INDIVIDUALS.
OK. Prove it. Show me the genetic data that supports your position and not anything else.
You show a seriously poor understanding of science.
Can't prove that populations not individuals evolve? Fine. Prove me wrong.Hint. More usual evo rhetoric that you can't prove.
Really?
"The generation of more than 350,000 'sub-baramina' of beetle in 4000 years?"
to which you replied:
"That is no different than the great number of dog varieties in the same length of time."
Are you really going to stand on your implied claim of there being 350,000 "sub-baramina" of dog?
Do you now see the pickle that your breed of "argument" gets you into
"Where did you get 4000 years? You just made that up with no evidence. Evolutionist have gotten very good at make believe."
to which I replied:
"Well see, I got it from creationists! For the flood is claimed to have occurred about 4000 years ago, and thus all extant diversity had to have arisen from a breeding pair (or 7 clean pairs) of 'kinds' off the ark."
Do you not even know the story YOU are promulgating?
Are you saying God did not flood the earth? We agree!
I think you meant to omit the above - for you did not even try to address it.
This is what happens when you 'argue via knee-jerk.'
You will get a range of variants, some similar to other varieties. This range will be a random or "bell curve" distribution--the "random" in random variation and natural selection.
First I doubt if there are that many varieties of beetles. Even if there are, they are just varieties of the same species.
Since the Bible doesn't give the age of the universe or when the flood occurred, 4000 yeas is only a guess.
The Bible says there was a universal flood, Unless you can prove there was not one, there was one,
I have no idea what that refers to.
On the one hand, of course I teach what I have been taught. It is quite stupid, frankly, to think any one person can do everything.
I have, however, done original published research. One of my papers was cited in the 2nd Edition of Doug Futuyma's textbook "Evolution." He did not cite it in the 3rd ed... razza frakken....
Regarding the dog=whale, you will first have to abandon your strawman.
A series of genes.
No magic required, if that is what you were getting at.
Falsifying that, would make evolution false.
Gazelles producing anything other then gazelles, would falsify evolution.
That is probably one of the most ignorant statements evo give. Gazelle always producing gazelles, reinforces after their kind. If gazelles always produce gazelles, how do we get the greet variety of species we have today?
Please learn what evolution is actually about, because this is becoming rather ridiculous.
Please learn something about genetics, this is ridiculous.
No. You say it, because that is what you believe as a religious creationist.
What I believe is not about my religion. It is about science. The only thing I mention from my religion is "after their kind," which can b e proved and can't be disproved and it refutes evolution.
I will listen to antyhing that includes scientific evidence. If it does not include the evidence for what is said, it is rhetoric.
You're not on the school ground anymore.
No but you are.
Can't prove that populations not individuals evolve? Fine. Prove me wrong.
You made the first statement. Prove it then I will prove it wrong.
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LOL, Do you think it's 1858 or something?
A common theme in your posts!
No but you are
You made the first statement. Prove it then I will prove it wrong.
The evidene you offered is underwhelming.
The Bible says there was a universal flood, Unless you can prove there was not one, there was one,
The fact is, that the variation I speak of is the basis of evolution. It is also the basis of selective breeding which allowed the natives of the New World breed corn from Teosinte. Without variation there is nothing for natural selection--or the forced selection of breeding--to work on. There would be no corn for you to plant.Not true. You will ALWAYS get the exact same variety you planted. I have been gardening for over 40 years and it has not failed yet.
Do you save corn from your crop for next years planting, or do you buy it new each year?Not true. You will ALWAYS get the exact same variety you planted. I have been gardening for over 40 years and it has not failed yet.
Yeah, no.
You made the claim that individuals evolve not populations. Prove me wrong. You also still have to show evidence for whatever a 'kind' is.
But since you're the type of person who doesn't understand basic biology, especially since you feel that bass aren't fish nor robins are birds, then I'm not really holding my breath for anything.
Also, please figure out how to use the QUOTE function.
What?
Do you mean the evidence I posted earlier refuting your corn nonsense?
This is abysmal logic. Actually if you claim that there was a universal flood then the burden of proof is upon you, and in matters of science the Bible does not count as evidence.
But if we set up some reasonable ground rules it is possible to prove that there was no universal flood.
The fact is, that the variation I speak of is the basis of evolution. It is also the basis of selective breeding which allowed the natives of the New World breed corn from Teosinte. Without variation there is nothing for natural selection--or the forced selection of breeding--to work on. There would be no corn for you to plant.
Do you save corn from your crop for next years planting, or do you buy it new each year?
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