Wherein I catch a professional creationist in a lie, pt.3

[tas8831]

I'm an OEC.

So you hate Jesus. Got it.

You see - several years ago, Sarfati was banned from a Christian creationist discussion forum for 'attacking' OECs for being heretics.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So you're cool with professional Christian creationists lying/deceiving/being foolish as long as they do so for The Cause.

Got it.

From what I read they just proposed an argument, nothing more.

 

[tas8831]

Some religious interpretations are suspect.

Yours are.

Then, your scientific opinions are hilarious and absurd, so....

Gut and aorta send motor impulses to the larynx via the RLN to make 'vocalizations'...

Odd that so many creationists with non-biology backgrounds think that they know more than they really do - more than actual biologists. Very common character flaw in the ultra-religious - hubris via the Dunning-Kruger effect.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So you hate Jesus. Got it.

You see - several years ago, Sarfati was banned from a Christian creationist discussion forum for 'attacking' OECs for being heretics.

He probably violated the forum rules.

 

[tas8831]

From what I read they just proposed an argument, nothing more.

You might want to read the OP.

You are getting boring more quickly than usual.

 

[tas8831]

He probably violated the forum rules.

Wow, you are a regular genius.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yours are.

Then, your scientific opinions are hilarious and absurd, so....

Gut and aorta send motor impulses to the larynx via the RLN to make 'vocalizations'...

Odd that so many creationists with non-biology backgrounds think that they know more than they really do - more than actual biologists. Very common character flaw in the ultra-religious - hubris via the Dunning-Kruger effect.

The impulses originate in the heart but travel through the aortic arch.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You might want to read the OP.

You are getting boring more quickly than usual.

I did read it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Wow, you are a regular genius.

Thanks. I do consider myself that in many areas.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Remind me - did JFK claim to be the best at everything? Did JFK dodge the draft? Did JFK praise Kruschev while blaming American intelligence services for the bad blood between us and the USSR?

This is why I laugh whenever someone acts surprised that a "Christian" would do something wrong/bad...

That isn't the point.

 

[tas8831]

The impulses originate in the heart but travel through the aortic arch.

No, they don't.

And dare I say it - I think you are getting dopier by the week.
The aortic arch is a blood vessel, by the way.

Now - can you actually honestly answer anything relevant?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No, they don't.

And dare I say it - I think you are getting dopier by the week.
The aortic arch is a blood vessel, by the way.

Now - can you actually honestly answer anything relevant?

This is my only amusement (most of my time is spent improving the world).

So far what seems important to you is relatively meaningless to me.

 

[tas8831]

Thanks. I do consider myself that in many areas.

Clearly. Pity that your extreme Dunning-Kruger effect robs you of the ability to understand how poorly you understand the things you think you have expertise in.

Biology, for example.

 

[tas8831]

This is my only amusement (most of my time is spent improving the world).

So far what seems important to you is relatively meaningless to me.

Right - like being honest and having integrity and not exhibiting egotism and not pontificating in areas that there is no reason to. Got it.

Odd thing is - it also seems that you amuse yourself by making a fool of yourself on many occasions. Is that some kind of weird martyrdom thing you have going on? "Look at all the abuse I take from the Devil's spawn, oh Lord!"

 

[tas8831]

I did read it.

And yet you indicate that they were 'just making an argument'.
Well, I guess that is the norm in Christian creationist circles - lying or making false claims is totally cool, as long as it is done for Jesus.

 

[tas8831]

Please let the trolls remember what this thread was actually about - the question as to whether professional creationists are liars, deceivers, or just fools:

'Bible Research Tools' was kind enough to supply me with another example of professional creationists spreading lies (or exhibiting gross incompetence... or engaging in purposeful deception...) to their under-informed target audience when he linked to this essay:

It’s all talk,Tiktaalik can’t walk

by one Warren Nunn, a 'newspaper journalist.'

In it, we see a reference to another essay, in which we see:

"In 2006, Dr Jonathan Sarfati considered the evidence and pointed out that Tiktaalik’s fin was not connected to the main skeleton, so could not have supported its weight on land."​

Jon Sarfati - chemist - yakking about fossils and physiology. Hilarious! He, too makes the same erroneous claim Menton did - thinking that there must be a bone-to-bone articulation between the 'fin' and the 'main skeleton' in order for something to walk on land.

This will be news to elephants. And bison. And tigers. And so on. All of whom lack such a connection, yet seem to be doing OK.

It will be a great day when professional creationists stop employing the fallacious argumentum ad verecundiam* to awe their uninformed target audience into believing whatever nonsense they are peddling.


*most interesting as Sarfati is famous for lambasting non-creationists for speaking/writing outside of their specific area of expertise...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Clearly. Pity that your extreme Dunning-Kruger effect robs you of the ability to understand how poorly you understand the things you think you have expertise in.

Biology, for example.

I'm an expert in things that matter. "Tiktaalik" (whatever that is) and whether it could walk doesn't matter. It's fun to mix it up with you guys though.

 

[tas8831]

I'm an expert in things that matter.

"My basis for not believing it is that I don't understand it."

"Tiktaalik" (whatever that is) and whether it could walk doesn't matter. It's fun to mix it up with you guys though.

Well it is fun for us. I guess you really are in it for some weird witnessing/martyrdom thing. Sad.

Please let the trolls remember what this thread was actually about - the question as to whether professional creationists are liars, deceivers, or just fools:

'Bible Research Tools' was kind enough to supply me with another example of professional creationists spreading lies (or exhibiting gross incompetence... or engaging in purposeful deception...) to their under-informed target audience when he linked to this essay:

It’s all talk,Tiktaalik can’t walk

by one Warren Nunn, a 'newspaper journalist.'

In it, we see a reference to another essay, in which we see:

"In 2006, Dr Jonathan Sarfati considered the evidence and pointed out that Tiktaalik’s fin was not connected to the main skeleton, so could not have supported its weight on land."​

Jon Sarfati - chemist - yakking about fossils and physiology. Hilarious! He, too makes the same erroneous claim Menton did - thinking that there must be a bone-to-bone articulation between the 'fin' and the 'main skeleton' in order for something to walk on land.

This will be news to elephants. And bison. And tigers. And so on. All of whom lack such a connection, yet seem to be doing OK.

It will be a great day when professional creationists stop employing the fallacious argumentum ad verecundiam* to awe their uninformed target audience into believing whatever nonsense they are peddling.


*most interesting as Sarfati is famous for lambasting non-creationists for speaking/writing outside of their specific area of expertise...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

"My basis for not believing it is that I don't understand it."

Well it is fun for us. I guess you really are in it for some weird witnessing/martyrdom thing. Sad.

Please let the trolls remember what this thread was actually about - the question as to whether professional creationists are liars, deceivers, or just fools:

'Bible Research Tools' was kind enough to supply me with another example of professional creationists spreading lies (or exhibiting gross incompetence... or engaging in purposeful deception...) to their under-informed target audience when he linked to this essay:

It’s all talk,Tiktaalik can’t walk

by one Warren Nunn, a 'newspaper journalist.'

In it, we see a reference to another essay, in which we see:

"In 2006, Dr Jonathan Sarfati considered the evidence and pointed out that Tiktaalik’s fin was not connected to the main skeleton, so could not have supported its weight on land."​

Jon Sarfati - chemist - yakking about fossils and physiology. Hilarious! He, too makes the same erroneous claim Menton did - thinking that there must be a bone-to-bone articulation between the 'fin' and the 'main skeleton' in order for something to walk on land.

This will be news to elephants. And bison. And tigers. And so on. All of whom lack such a connection, yet seem to be doing OK.

It will be a great day when professional creationists stop employing the fallacious argumentum ad verecundiam* to awe their uninformed target audience into believing whatever nonsense they are peddling.


*most interesting as Sarfati is famous for lambasting non-creationists for speaking/writing outside of their specific area of expertise...

This thread is a troll. Anytime an atheist evolutionist opens a topic about creationism or evolution on a Christian website it's a troll. You can see it coming a mile away.

 

[PsychoSarah]

This thread is a troll. Anytime an atheist evolutionist opens a topic about creationism or evolution on a Christian website it's a troll. You can see it coming a mile away.

-_- even my evolution experiment thread, in which I actually performed an experiment and documented results? Were my Triops trolling people? Dismissing all atheists as trolls serves you none.