Wherein I catch a professional creationist in a lie, pt.3

[OldWiseGuy]

I've ignored Trump for 20 years.
But, I am always amazed when I look around at all
the benefits we get caused by wealth accumulation.

I look at 10 bricks in a building and think about the
effort to make those bricks, transport them there
then stack them and create just 5 feet, in one layer,
of one building.

I could pay for the replacement of some of those
bricks, but I don't have it on me today.

True. The rich are the movers and shakers of the economy. We should appreciate that more than we do.

 

[SkyWriting]

Are you saying that elephants really do have direct bone-to-bone connections to their axial skeleton? DO TELL, Mr.Vertebrate Anatomy expert! Do tell!

I can't think of any creatures that walk on fins on land.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I can't think of any creatures that walk on fins on land.

Mudskippers are an obvious example.

 

[SkyWriting]

True. The rich are the movers and shakers of the economy. We should appreciate that more than we do.

I wish I owned some commercial property.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

'Bible Research Tools' was kind enough to supply me with another example of professional creationists spreading lies (or exhibiting gross incompetence... or engaging in purposeful deception...) to their under-informed target audience when he linked to this essay:

It’s all talk,Tiktaalik can’t walk

by one Warren Nunn, a 'newspaper journalist.'

In it, we see a reference to another essay, in which we see:

"In 2006, Dr Jonathan Sarfati considered the evidence and pointed out that Tiktaalik’s fin was not connected to the main skeleton, so could not have supported its weight on land."​

Jon Sarfati - chemist - yakking about fossils and physiology. Hilarious! He, too makes the same erroneous claim Menton did - thinking that there must be a bone-to-bone articulation between the 'fin' and the 'main skeleton' in order for something to walk on land.

This will be news to elephants. And bison. And tigers. And so on. All of whom lack such a connection, yet seem to be doing OK.

It will be a great day when professional creationists stop employing the fallacious argumentum ad verecundiam* to awe their uninformed target audience into believing whatever nonsense they are peddling.


*most interesting as Sarfati is famous for lambasting non-creationists for speaking/writing outside of their specific area of expertise...

The article is more convincing than you are. Sorry.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I wish I owned some commercial property.

It's great path to financial security (been there, done that). Not too difficult to get into either. Start small, watch it grow.

 

[SkyWriting]

Mudskippers are an obvious example.

When was the last time you spotted one?

If these marvels are missing links
then why are they not worshipped?

Mudskippers Search for a Meal | Animal Misfits | Nature on PBS

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

When was the last time you spotted one?

If these marvels are missing links
then why are they not worshipped?

Mudskippers Search for a Meal | Animal Misfits | Nature on PBS

Who said mudskippers are a missing link, and why should anyone worship them?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

When was the last time you spotted one?

Saw some yesterday. Does that make a difference?

 

[tas8831]

The front legs (shoulders) of most mammals don't have a "bone-to-bone" connection. I'm not sure about creatures such as Tiktaalik.

Is this your way of agreeing that Sarfati and Menton were dishonest/incompetent/deceptive in their claims that Tiktaalik could not have 'walked on land'?

 

[tas8831]

Powerful, rich, charismatic people (including women) do that. JFK makes Trump look like an amateur. Remember him? He is still revered today in spite of his philandering and adulterous history.

Remind me - did JFK claim to be the best at everything? Did JFK dodge the draft? Did JFK praise Kruschev while blaming American intelligence services for the bad blood between us and the USSR?

This is why I laugh whenever someone acts surprised that a "Christian" would do something wrong/bad...

 

[tas8831]

Few secular information sources could pass that test. We are bombarded with false information every moment of every day. Thankfully most have a "BS" filter else we would all be like "Stepford Wives" gobbling up everything some talking head tries to feed us.

No religious sources can be trusted - look at that moron Jeffress.
Regarding BS filter - odd that you swallow YEC nonsense (and produce a bunch of your own)...

 

[tas8831]

True. The rich are the movers and shakers of the economy. We should appreciate that more than we do.

Wow...

You've drunk the kool aid, too...

https://www.newsweek.com/republican-tax-cuts-trump-wage-increases-879800

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Is this your way of agreeing that Sarfati and Menton were dishonest/incompetent/deceptive in their claims that Tiktaalik could not have 'walked on land'?

Just rehearsing that part of mammal physiology, nothing more.

 

[tas8831]

I can't think of any creatures that walk on fins on land.

Dodging the question to protect YEC fibbers. Got it.

 

[tas8831]

Just rehearsing that part of mammal physiology, nothing more.

So you're cool with professional Christian creationists lying/deceiving/being foolish as long as they do so for The Cause.

Got it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No religious sources can be trusted - look at that moron Jeffress.
Regarding BS filter - odd that you swallow YEC nonsense (and produce a bunch of your own)...

I'm an OEC.

 

[tas8831]

The article is more convincing than you are. Sorry.

Says the guy that thinks evolution is wrong because he cannot understand it.

Are your cartoons over?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No religious sources can be trusted - look at that moron Jeffress.
Regarding BS filter - odd that you swallow YEC nonsense (and produce a bunch of your own)...

Some religious interpretations are suspect.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Says the guy that thinks evolution is wrong because he cannot understand it.

Are your cartoons over?

No one, not even you, understands it.