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Where (or what) is Ur of the Chaldees?

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In Genesis, Abraham is described as being from "Ur of the Chaldees." While some interpret Ur as a specific town or city, others consider it to mean 'land,' thus interpreting the phrase as 'land of the Chaldees.' Saint Stephen's reference in Acts 7:4, "Then he [Abram] left the land of the Chaldeans," lends credence to the latter interpretation. However, this issue is not conclusively resolved by the Hebrew text used in modern English Bibles, and consideration of ancient versions, particularly the Septuagint (LXX), is also relevant. Comments?
 

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I think the jury is out on this one. The standard interpretation seems to place Ur in southern Mesopatamia.


The most common identification of Ur-Kasdim is with the great city of Ur in southern Mesopotamia (located at modern Tell el-Muqayyar in southern Iraq), which flourished especially during Sumerian times. This identification was first proposed by Henry C. Rawlinson (1810–1895),[2] but Sir Leonard Woolley (1880‒1960) was the one who established it as standard doctrine.[3]

But possibly a more cogent argument could be made that Abraham journeyed from what is now modern day Urfa in south eastern Turkey.

One scholar who noted these problems, and disagreed with Woolley’s identification, was Cyrus Gordon (1908–2001). Although, Gordon dug with Woolley at Ur in the 1930s,[11] he could not accept the great archaeologist’s conclusion. Instead, he noted that if Teraḥ and family left Ur-Kasdim to travel to Canaan, but stopped en route in Ḥarran, then the location of Ur-Kasdim should be to the north of Ḥarran.

Considering these data points, a more attractive suggestion is that Abraham’s hometown is the city of Ur in northern Mesopotamia = modern-day Urfa in southeastern Turkey, 44 km north of Ḥarran.[12] Most likely, this city is the one mentioned as Ura in cuneiform tablets from Ugarit (14th–13th centuries B.C.E.), where it is associated with the Hittite realm.[13] A journey from Urfa to Canaan would indeed pass directly through Ḥarran.

Abraham’s pool in the Urfa mosque
Abraham’s pool in the Urfa mosque . Bernard Gagnon, Wikimedia
Local (Turkish) Jewish, Christian, and Muslim tradition identifies this city as biblical Ur, the birthplace of Abraham. In fact, this notion was commonly accepted in 19th-century biblical scholarship. For example, George Bush (1796‒1859),[14] a leading biblical scholar of the day, noted regarding biblical Ur-Kasdim:

As to the city here mentioned, some difficulty has been experienced by commentators in fixing its site, but in the East it is generally identified with the present town of Orfah in Upper Mesopotamia Two days’ journey east of the Euphrates, sixty-seven miles north-east of Beer. The Jews, according to Mr. Wolff, still call the place by the name in the text, אור כשדים Oor Kasdim, or Ur of the Chaldees, and it is a place of pilgrimage as the birth-place of Abraham, in whose honour the Moslems have a fine mosque in the court of which is a lake teeming with fish which are held sacred to the patriarch’ and not permitted to be caught.[15]

Notably, the names of Teraḥ’s father Naḥor and his grandfather Serug are actually the names of cities in the general region of Urfa: a) Naḫur, known from Akkadian sources (even if its precise location in upper Mesopotamia is unknown), and b) Serug, well known from later Syriac sources, whose name persists in modern Turkish Suruç, 46 km southwest of Urfa.

Like Paul's "thorn in the flesh", the location of "Ur of the Chaldees" is one of those unresolved issues in the Bible.
 
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the location of "Ur of the Chaldees" is one of those unresolved issues in the Bible.

Not really, since it was almost certainly either Urfa or Ur-proper.

We know St. Abraham spoke a Semitic language, which was probably Akkadian or proto-Aramaic and which interacted with the ancient Egyptian tongue to produce what was probably proto-West Semitic. This implies a Mesopotamian, Assyrian or Aramaean origin. And by the time of St. Abraham, Sumerian was already in the process of becoming a liturgical language rather than a living vernacular language.
 
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