Where Is Muhammad Ali Now?

[Arthra]

He accepted jesus how?

Well you see bhsmte... All Muslims acknowledge Jesus... Ask them! But as to Muhammad Ali..may his soul rest in peace you can read a fascinating article:

http://bpnews.net/46988/muhammad-ali-heard-gospel-from-graham-rogers
Also see:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/sharpton-muhammad-ali-stood-by-what-he-believed/vi-BBtUYAh

 

[gord44]

He accepted jesus how?

In the Muslim way. Not in a Christian way.

This thread is funny. I wonder if Rocky thought this would actually snare some people to become Christians. Like 'hell' is a new idea that none of us heard of and we are all shocked that non-Christians go to hell so we best become Christians right away or suffer the same fate as the Champ!

 

[bhsmte]

Well you see bhsmte... All Muslims acknowledge Jesus... Ask them! But as to Muhammad Ali..may his soul rest in peace you can read a fascinating article:

http://bpnews.net/46988/muhammad-ali-heard-gospel-from-graham-rogers
Also see:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/sharpton-muhammad-ali-stood-by-what-he-believed/vi-BBtUYAh

Many atheists acknowledge jesus as well.

 

[awitch]

In the Muslim way. Not in a Christian way.

This thread is funny. I wonder if Rocky thought this would actually snare some people to become Christians. Like 'hell' is a new idea that none of us heard of and we are all shocked that non-Christians go to hell so we best become Christians right away or suffer the same fate as the Champ!

And I'm willing to bet that the non-Christians here aren't intimidated by passive aggressive threats, either.

 

[rockytopva]

In the Muslim way. Not in a Christian way.

This thread is funny. I wonder if Rocky thought this would actually snare some people to become Christians. Like 'hell' is a new idea that none of us heard of and we are all shocked that non-Christians go to hell so we best become Christians right away or suffer the same fate as the Champ!

I prefer to support preaching that will bring people to a decision to either accept or reject the Lord Jesus Christ into their life...

 

[drstevej]

who's crime was not believing.

Check this out:
http://www.biblebb.com/files/edwards/je-justice.htm

Wherever Ali is God is just.

 

[awitch]

Check this out:
http://www.biblebb.com/files/edwards/je-justice.htm

Wherever Ali is God is just.

A bit long to read comprehensively at work but I will check it out later this evening.

 

[Fizzywig]

A bit long to read comprehensively at work but I will check it out later this evening.

Its another sermon of Jonathan Edwards. As one wit once said, not so much "Sinners in the hands of an angry God", more "God in the hands of an angry sinner'.

 

[awitch]

Its another sermon of Jonathan Edwards. As one wit once said, not so much "Sinners in the hands of an angry God", more "God in the hands of an angry sinner'.

Sounds like victim blaming. Except, I'm not angry.

 

[Fizzywig]

Sounds like victim blaming. Except, I'm not angry.

Give it a read if you wish. Just how anyone gives any creedance at all to this sort of thing is beyond me. But as is always said, each to their own.

No, you don't come across as angry.

 

[RDKirk]

Jesus Christ had the audacity to say...

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6

I would not want to try eternity without him! If the Bible has it right, then the three-time heavyweight boxing champion is now coping with something far, far worse than Parkinson's disease.

You have no idea what conversation the man might have had with Jesus before he died.

 

[Fizzywig]

In the Muslim way. Not in a Christian way.

This thread is funny. I wonder if Rocky thought this would actually snare some people to become Christians. Like 'hell' is a new idea that none of us heard of and we are all shocked that non-Christians go to hell so we best become Christians right away or suffer the same fate as the Champ!

I see the funny side, yet it can also make you weep.

Who knows just what Rocky thought.

 

[gord44]

You have no idea what conversation the man might have had with Jesus before he died.

That sort of non-judgemental thinking has no place here sir!

 

[RDKirk]

He accepted jesus how?

Muslims don't accept Jesus as the "begotton son of God." The Koran interprets that literally as God having had physical sexual intercourse with a human woman and says, "Nope, that didn't happen!"

The Koran also doubts Jesus being executed like a criminal--Islam does not allow for prophets to have been killed ignominiously.

However, Islam does accept a whole lot about Jesus: That He was at least as great a prophet as Muhammad (and many accept Him as the greatest prophet). They also accept His virgin birth (but not that God did it...I'm not sure how they work that out).

I have a friend who worked undercover as a missionary in Morocco for over a decade who was pretty successful converting Muslims who came to him freely inquiring, "You're a Christian--can you tell me more about Jesus?" All he ever did was simply read the Gospels with them, then ask, "Do you believe what we've read?"

 

[Robban]

Jesus Christ had the audacity to say...

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6

I would not want to try eternity without him! If the Bible has it right, then the three-time heavyweight boxing champion is now coping with something far, far worse than Parkinson's disease.

People die everyday, why single out this person?

Now he has gone and cannot defend himself,

Is it not cheap?
Seriously.

Where he is now?
Maybe he is recieving a "well done" award.

 

[sdowney717]

People die everyday, why single out this person?

Now he has gone and cannot defend himself,

Is it not cheap?
Seriously.

Where he is now?
Maybe he is receiving a "well done" award.

Maybe because he is a famous dead muslim?

Unless you openly confess Christ before men, you wont be receiving any well done rewards from God.
Either you openly confess Christ, not secretly confess, or you deny Christ before men.
Secret confessors are not even mentioned by Christ here.

Confess Christ Before Men
32 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. 33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

Christ Brings Division
34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

Christ also says he is the way truth and the life, and no one comes to God except through Him, since He is the door to God.
If you dont agree with what He said, then your denying Christ as God come in the flesh. You're denying Christ before men.

 

[Dave-W]

Well, if the Koran is right..........

it ain't.

 

[Dave-W]

As a Muslim Muhammad Ali accepted Jesus.

As a misguided prophet. NOT as the son of God. As the Koran says; "God has no son."

He who does not have the Son does not have Life. 1 Jn 5.12

 

[Fizzywig]

it ain't.

I would recommend going onto an Islamic Forum. You can debate the point there.

 

[gord44]

it ain't.

Sound argument for sure!