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Speaking of love, grace, mercy, forgiveness... Where was it during the Armenian genocide administered by Muslims against Christians? Photo entitled... "Turk official teasing Armenian starved children by showing bread" ....
I would hate to see the 'heaven' of those who think God is evil enough to have such limiting criteria for those who get to rejoice with him for ever. I bet there are societies in hell that are delusional and think they are heaven.
No, only "Christians" have Christ in them...Muslims are not Christian and will perish!
No.They do indeed.
With eachother probablyh
Biblical scholars would disagree.
With eachother probably
Sorry but, you have that all wrong! It is not a matter whether WE see Jesus in everyone else.....it is based on whether God sees Jesus in you or not!Not at all what I read Matthew 25. In fact, it seems to base it on whether or not we see Jesus in everybody else and respond accordingly.
I thought this place was called Christian Forum?.....Christians don't read or adhere to the Quran.By reading the Qur'an.
Wrong God!Sorry, you feel that way. It seems Muslims have a more generous conception of God.
That is right, Christians do not believe in Allah and certainly not if, in the end, you have done good or not, it is by the Grace of our God alone!whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good
I have to tell you a story about Billy Graham that is pretty awesome. It was told to me by a Baha'i friend of mine. Well, I'll let him tell it:
"At one (long) point in my northern sojourn I had a home just around
the corner from KJNP AM "your 50,000 watt gospel voice of the north"
(KJNP supposedly meant "King Jesus, North Pole) & due to various
circumstances I became the station management's personal teaching
project. If they'd been calmer about it I wouldn't be laughing about
it so much. ;{)>
It came to pass that I was out of town for a couple of weeks & ended
up returning a full day before I had originally planned (& arranged
with my friends who had my car.) As this was the time before cell
phones & not everybody had answering machines as yet I couldn't
contact my friends with news of the change of plans, so I decided to
trust in God & try to hitchhike home.
Imagine how I felt when the KJNP van pulled up.
I decided that a ride is a ride & that I would in all probability get
dropped off at my own front door step so I got in to the van & found
the top management of the station (with whom I had spent many an hour
over tea &c.) & a new face that I recognized but could not
immediately place. The station people were grinning like wolves
looking at a very fat baby moose who was bleating for its mama.
This is where things get interesting. before they introduced me to
their guest one of the KJNP people (who also worked as a DJ, he had a
lovely voice) starts working the same argument on me that he'd been
losing for several weeks about the divinity of Christ vs the humanity
thereof.
Then the stranger piped in before I had quite gotten ready a response
to the very specious question that I was asked & asked who I might
be. So I introduced myself & offered my hand he took my hand &
introduced himself. I think it was the very first time that the
management of KJNP had ever seen me flabbergasted.
While I was collecting my marbles the station president explained
that I was one of those heathen Baha'is that claim that Christ would
dare to return as a "Muhammaden" &c. & that they were trying to
convince me of the errors my ways. I replied, as calmly as I could
under the circumstances that I had yet to find an error in my ways
but that they were more than welcome to investigate my beliefs to try
to find some. But, since everything that they knew about the Baha'i
Faith was either from myself or from reading works by people with an
agenda against the Faith yadda yadda.
Rev. Graham agreed with me that if one is investigating the truth of
another man's beliefs it is best to go to the source of that belief.
After the ensuing uproar the DJ commented that I had never answered
his question. So I did, knowing full well that whatever answer I gave
would be attacked for it "obvious" weaknesses. It was.
Then Mr. Graham piped in again. On my side. Then he began to lambast
the KJNP staff for their unchristian behavior in "ganging up" on
somebody. During this tongue-lashing he mentioned that one of his
favorite neighbors was a Baha'i, that he had read some of the books &
whereas he could not accept the teachings as his own, there was a
great wisdom there that *all* Christians could learn from. That my
answer to the question satisfied him because it was "a really stupid
question" that was answered with wisdom & patience. "Baha'is believe
in God, love the Lord Jesus & repent their sins, isn't that what we
ask of our own people?"
It was a thoroughly cowed crew that pulled the van up to my domicile,
I was assisted out with quiet thoughtfulness. I thanked Mr. Graham as
graciously as I could stating that I would invite the whole lot of
them in but I'd been away from home for a while & there was no food
in the house. Mr. Graham smiled, thanked me (he had gotten out of the
van to) put his hand on my shoulder & quietly stated that if more
Christians acted like the very few Baha'is he'd met then Christianity
would indeed be the only religion in the world. I told him that I was
really not all that good, "I'm trying, sometimes very trying, but I
do my best. Thanks, I'll pray for your continued success."
"And I for yours." He got back into the van & they left.
That evening, on the radio, I listened to the discussion (& sermon)
with the good reverend & he mentioned his encounter with me in
passing. It was all very positive.
I wonder who his Baha'i neighbor was, & what their relationship was
like. That is the person who I really feel deserves the credit here.
But, if I had allowed myself to lose my temper the situation would
have been memorable for a very different reason."
I was Franklin Graham was half the man his father was.
Where was it when Christians slaughtered the Jews or committed genocide against Native Americans. Where was it when Charlemagne gave the Saxons the choice between Christianity and the sword?
It is my belief that the church came down in ages in Revelation 2-3...
Ephesus - Apostolic - Peter - First church born on the day of Pentecost on the rock... Peter
Smyrna - Martyr - Paul - Second church born with Apostle to the Gentiles.... Paul
Pergamos - Orthodox - Constantine ... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages - Two of them - Rome and Constantinople
Thyatira - Catholic - Charlemagne - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestant - Martin Luther - A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism - John Wesley - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Materialistic - DL Moody, the first to 'increase' with ministry proceeds. Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?
John Wesley would not have sanctioned the hatred or violence on any group of people, regardless of the color of their skin. The spirit of Jezebel can get into any movement and ruin it. An example is what is happening in the ISIS now. I do not believe, as I believe the church came down in ages, that the Spirit of Jezebel is in the Catholic church, but she can raise her head up again... I consider myself Philadelphian... However...
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. - Revelation 3:11-12
Key word... You shall no more go out... Which is a drag on the Philadelphia movement... We cannot keep the revival hot.
I believe that we will see one more spirit of Jezebel, and that will be in the form of anti-Christ during the time of the Pale Horseman of the Apocalypse.
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