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Part of me really wants to become Catholic, there are so many things about it that are very appealing to me as a Christian (I have nothing against my current church, it's full of God-fearing men and women who have a passion for Christ just as I do), there are a lot of good arguments for it that I have heard. I've also discovered that many of the misconceptions that non-Catholics hold are either over-exaggerated or completely unfounded.



However, there are many, many things about the Church that are foreign to me, it's all new territory, and I feel rather lost. I try looking up answers from various Catholic sources, but some of them seem to be saying different things, not even agreeing with each other at times. Researching things online may answer some questions, but usually spawns several others.

Dr. William Lane Craig, one of my favorite apologists and Christian thinkers, has pretty much echoed my situation exactly. He said that part of him yearns to be part of the Catholic church, but that his mind simply won't let him because he is not able to fully accept all of its beliefs and practices. That is the same for me - it would be intellectually dishonest for me to join the Church in my current state of confusion.

There are so many different issues buzzing around such as Purgatory, the Real Presence, church authority, papal infallibility, the history of the church, where certain books in the Catholic bible came form, the Reformation...the list goes on. Where should I begin to search for answers? Is there any definitive book that is widely accepted and trusted to teach Catholic-seekers about the church? Where do you go when you have questions?

I realize it is folly to lean on my own understanding in matter such as these, and that I should always instead lean on God and trust that He leads me into truth. However, I still see nothing wrong with doing some research at least.

I started out as a huge skeptic of Catholicism, and was not willing to give it a fair examination. But now, not only am I willing to put prejudices and pre-assumptions aside, I'm actually willing to give it the benefit of the doubt in certain cases. From my perspective, if the Catholic church IS the one, true church as it claims, then it should be able to have the evidence to back that up and show me that's the case. Thus far, I have not been convinced, despite wanting to be. I don't say this to mean I'm giving up or anything like that, I'd just like some advice and tips about how to traverse this mine-field of confusion.

I'll end this here before I start to ramble, thanks to anyone who reads this
 

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Well, the first step I suppose is to read the Catechism if you have not already. There you will find Catholic beliefs lated out by Church authorities, not third parties. When you come upon a subject and think "eh, that sounds fishy", follow the footnotes and dig deeper into that particular teaching or belief and how it evolved through time.
 
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The Fire Rises


Dr. William Lane Craig, one of my favorite apologists and Christian thinkers, has pretty much echoed my situation exactly. He said that part of him yearns to be part of the Catholic church, but that his mind simply won't let him because he is not able to fully accept all of its beliefs and practices. That is the same for me - it would be intellectually dishonest for me to join the Church in my current state of confusion.


Then this becomes a matter of following the will of God, over your own intellectual ideas.

I was Baptized Catholic, but left. When I returned at age 26, I didn't accepted everything at first either. But in humility, I knew that this was where Christ wanted me, so I just surrendered my self to his will.

He revealed the truths behind the conflicts I had with Catholic doctrines, and I came to realize it wasn't the Church who had it wrong, but my own misunderstanding of what the doctrines actually were.


Anyway, you're a disciple of Jesus Christ. Pray and ask to follow his will.


God Bless
Jim
 
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I think Wolseley answered this question in another thread about the basic beliefs, but I would go even simpler than that. I would start with prayer. If you're truly open to it God will reveal himself to you. Lord, help me believe my unbelief.

I don't agree with starting of by biting a huge chunk of reading material, when I did that I found myself overwhelmed and knowing more than what I could actually put into practice. Keep it simple. Your willingness already makes you a Catholic.
 
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Miss Shelby,

Not to interrupt the thread, but I wanted to say how good it is to "see" you. :wave:

The Fire Rises,

I echo all the above. Pray! Pray and study, pray with studying. That way you get the best of both worlds. But the real conviction will come from the heart. One day you may be reading and find you love what you are reading, and see the beauty, truth, and unity of it all. Many people have come to Catholicism in that way.
 
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The compendium of the catechism is a good resource...it explains the catechism. :D

There is a book called 'Catholicism for Dummies'.

www.scripturecatholic.com is a good source for finding scriptures for those 'hard to figure out' doctrines that make no sense or that which have been taught against regarding Catholicism.
The Church indeed can back up her doctrines in scriptures...If one knows where to look...and how to look at them.

Peace be with you.
 
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On top of the catechism and prayer you can always make an appointment to talk to a local priest. That's what I did. I was away from the church and pretty happy with my pentecostal parish but then I felt like I wasn't getting enough spiritually and I seriously despised the Catholic church. Upon much prayer though I felt led back to it despite my hatred towards it. I feel like this is where Jesus has led me and although I don't always agree with everything or understand Jesus wouldn't lead me somewhere he wouldn't want me to be.
 
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As someone who teaches information literacy and works as an information specialist I cannot emphasize enough that if you're getting information from the internet you will always find conflicting ideas, even on internet forums such as this one.

You need to read published material, not web articles, not websites, not internet forums, etc. In these areas you will always find conflicting information because nowadays anyone can say anything on the internet and there are absolutely no gatekeepers. Instead you need to read reputable resources published alone in its entirety -like printed/online published books, for example.

The number one source - and I emphasize NUMBER ONE SOURCE - that you should adhere to is the Catechism. It doesn't matter what other sources say, this is what explains our beliefs.

You can supplement the Catechism with solid reputable sources from theologians and other scholars, like Scott Hahn.

This is serious study, and serious study requires going to resources that explain the Catechism and Catholic faith. I would start by creating a bibliography and finding those resources at a library or for purchase.

Catholcism is complex and everyone tries to make sense of it, and sometimes they end up explaining things in a very confusing and conflicting way.

Don't lose hope in your search. The Lord will lead you to where you need to be.
 
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Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and speak to a priest from a local Catholic Church. Don't overwhelm yourself with a lot of reading material - I think the Catechism is the best start.

I will also echo Winter's statement - going to the Web for info is always going to bring you conflicting "interpretations - go to the source! The Bible, Catechism and the Church herself!
 
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Is there an online version of the Catechism available to the public? I'd rather not have to buy it full-price, and it sometimes takes weeks for rented books to reach my library.

People have made a good point about online sources...they're often shady at best. However, one common theme I have noticed throughout all Catholic sites/articles/videos is that in all of them, they have repeated the claim that the Catholic Church has the fullness of truth and knowledge when it comes to Christianity, and that is the claim that I have been trying to investigate.

Back when I was an agnostic, I approached Christianity much the same way, as someone would approach someone in a court of law. I examined the evidence on both sides of the issue, and found that the evidence for God, the Bible and Christ simply crushed the evidence against them (even using the word "evidence" is being generous actually). Suffice to say, it would be nice if that could happen again in regards to Catholicism.
 
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Have you tried attending Mass at a local Catholic Church yet (assuming one is near you)? You should really speak to a priest if you have not already (a deacon could help as well), or try to get in touch with one.

With regards to books: "The Catechism of the Catholic Church" is the definitive source for describing "what Catholics believe" and "why they believe." That is as official as you can get. I have not yet read the Catechism all the way through. In some parts, it is easier to understand. In some parts, it may be theology heavy. Usually if I have a question about something, I just search the index for the specific topic and read about it from the Catechism.

If the Catechism doesn't interest you yet, I highly recommend "Catholic Christianity: A Complete Catechism of Catholic Beliefs Based on the Catechism of the Catholic Church" by Peter Kreeft. I plan on reading this book soon (trying to read 10 books at once is not easy for me). This is essentially a "companion" book to the Catechism. It is simpler to understand and quotes from the Catechism, which in turn quotes from the Bible and other Church documents. It is very good reading, at least. It sounds like a book I would not be able to put down, and I have heard nothing but good things about it. Again, not a definitive source, but a good starting point.

If you plan on reading up on Catholic beliefs always make sure that you are looking inside the book for a Nihil Obstat/Imprimatur on the publishing info page. They are listed always (usually) at the front of the book. If you don't know, a Nihil Obstat/Imprimatur means that the book has been read over and is free from doctrinal/moral error (however, that doesn't necessarily mean that those who read over the book agree with its contents, opinions, etc.).

There are other modern Catholic theologians out there: Scott Hahn, Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI), John Henry Newman, Hans Urs von Balthasar, etc.
 
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Is there an online version of the Catechism available to the public? I'd rather not have to buy it full-price, and it sometimes takes weeks for rented books to reach my library.

People have made a good point about online sources...they're often shady at best. However, one common theme I have noticed throughout all Catholic sites/articles/videos is that in all of them, they have repeated the claim that the Catholic Church has the fullness of truth and knowledge when it comes to Christianity, and that is the claim that I have been trying to investigate.

Back when I was an agnostic, I approached Christianity much the same way, as someone would approach someone in a court of law. I examined the evidence on both sides of the issue, and found that the evidence for God, the Bible and Christ simply crushed the evidence against them (even using the word "evidence" is being generous actually). Suffice to say, it would be nice if that could happen again in regards to Catholicism.
Saint Charles Borromeo Catholic Church of Picayune, MS - Faith - Catechism of the Catholic Church

We claim it because we believe we are the Church Christ instituted in Matt 16:17-20.
 
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I've went with my grandfather to his church's mass a few times, and also one of my best friends is Catholic so I've been to that church as well, but that was several years ago. Both the priests were very nice, but I think I was too young back then to appreciate the homily, to me it was one of the longest experiences of my life, it seemed very dull and almost robotic compared to the church I usually went to. Of course, I can't base all of Catholicism off of those two churches I've been to.

And yes, I plan to read that book by Peter Kreeft. As I've said before, his story is pretty much the only reason I'm even looking into Catholicism right now.
 
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I've went with my grandfather to his church's mass a few times, and also one of my best friends is Catholic so I've been to that church as well, but that was several years ago. Both the priests were very nice, but I think I was too young back then to appreciate the homily, to me it was one of the longest experiences of my life, it seemed very dull and almost robotic compared to the church I usually went to. Of course, I can't base all of Catholicism off of those two churches I've been to.

And yes, I plan to read that book by Peter Kreeft. As I've said before, his story is pretty much the only reason I'm even looking into Catholicism right now.

I think you'd get more from Scott Hahn's book, "The Lamb's Supper."

His explanation of the Mass and it's connection in Scripture is just superb.

I read the entire book on a week-end retreat years ago. When I attend Mass that Sunday morning, it as if Heaven had just came to earth.


Jim
 
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I'll put that on my list, but right now I really just want a simple, over-view of Catholicism, preferably written by someone who isn't a cradle Catholic, and Dr. Kreeft is the only one I know of that fits that description, although there are probably more out there.
 
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I'll put that on my list, but right now I really just want a simple, over-view of Catholicism, preferably written by someone who isn't a cradle Catholic, and Dr. Kreeft is the only one I know of that fits that description, although there are probably more out there.


Dr Scott Hahn is a convert as well.

He's also a theologian at Franciscan University.

I found him easier to read that Peter Kreeft.

But as always, let God guide you.

Jim
 
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An excellent book that covers so many topics, is well written and interesting: Why Do Catholics Do That

I really like the book and keep a copy for aid in answering questions, teaching CCD to higher grades and even just personal re-reading for fun.

Well written, informative and accurate. Easy to find a chapter on most of the important topics of belief that have frequent questions.
 
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