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What do you think you can help me with? I am interested in a study of human nature...I have a few struggles here and there, as everyone does...for that you think I need help? I'm not following why you think this...I miss my son....! That occasionally depresses me, but I fight to not live in that loss, that depression and most all the time, I win that fight, by using and applying biblical principles...what do you think you can add?[/quote]


I missed that part. I think people on here really want to help each other for the most part, at least I hope they do. That was my Intent, to be helpful.
 
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What do you think you can help me with? I am interested in a study of human nature...I have a few struggles here and there, as everyone does...for that you think I need help? I'm not following why you think this...I miss my son....! That occasionally depresses me, but I fight to not live in that loss, that depression and most all the time, I win that fight, by using and applying biblical principles...what do you think you can add?


I missed that part. I think people on here really want to help each other for the most part, at least I hope they do. That was my Intent, to be helpful.[/quote]the very first post specifies it's a test in human nature, nothing else. As to missing my son, I'm guessing that will last the rest of my life, it usually does in people who loss someone that close.
 
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I've found that it helps to do the things you least want to do. Thats a key thing. List all the things you DON'T want to do and then force yourself to do them. Like going for a jog, going to karate, going Church even though you don't feel like it, etc.. When you start to get depressed part of the sickness is that it makes you not want to do the things that can help you feel better. Unfortunatly I don't always follow my own advice 'cause it can be hard to get up the drive to do it.
 
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I take meds for my depression (just had to up them as from today :sigh:) - it is too strong for me to cope without medication. However, saying that, I actively pray and ask God to help me through this stage and get great comfort from knowing He is there with me, even though I can't always feel Him. I have a fantastic (Christian) GP too, she has always been there for me, helped me and I trust her advice completely - it's hard to find a good GP you can really trust.

Meds are not Bad, its just that we cant rely on meds only and not God also, rely on both if you need to, we are all different. I just reject meds because Some wish to reject God and take only meds, we need both. Now turn that frown upside down and Praise the Lord even if ya don't feel like it, i dont always feel like it but i do it anyways and it does help me. :)

Don't worry and try to be happy. I worry allot and get sad also. I'm with you. We are in the same boat. Depression is sad, dont need to always be this way though. Jesus Loves us just the way we are.

It should be noted that I'm not a doctor, just trying to help people, i hope i am. May God help us all in Jesus name Amen.
 
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A good hot bath helps me sometimes, it relaxes me, gives me time to think about things.

We do need the medications. Depression is horrible, But Jesus can help. We need both medication and our Lord Jesus. I'm not depressed anymore although I do get sad, I run to Jesus and tell Him about it, He then loves me.

Maybe i too need some meds, I'm not sure, i guess i need to see a Doctor about allot of things. However i Don't have that awful depression anymore, Ive thought of suicide many times, put a gun I'm my mouth many times but I'm glad i never went through with it, i now go to my Lord Jesus with my troubles and He loves me and makes me feel better. Praising my Lord Jesus name in itself helps me. I must also pray to him always, it don't take allot words, as a matter of fact i don't think he likes hearing allot of words anyways, unless you need to say allot of words to get things off your chest, sometimes we just need to talk and He will listen because He loves us and knows we just need to talk about our problems to Him and sometimes it does take allot of words, he loves to hear those many words then i think. But he also likes few words.

Maybe we can have a heaven on earth and a hell on earth. Heaven being our Lord and Hell being our depression. But there is a real Hell and Heaven also, out side of this world, i fear this real hell and look forward to the real heaven.

I'll escape this real Hell and the Hell on earth at the same time by hoping in Jesus.

In heaven God Himself will wipe away every tear, he does that for me now, here on earth. He loves us and wants us to feel that Love. You must be like a child before Him, thats what we are to Him after all, His children. Seek heaven on Earth and you will find it. Knock on the right door and it will be opened to you.
 
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Exercise is very important to treating depression and all illness i think, get up and do something, it will help.

Also Gospel music helps me when I'm sad or happy. Old or new Gospel music is medicine also.

*Take your depression medication
*Keep in contact with a good Christian doctor if you can find one, but any will do i think
*Hope in Jesus
*Pray always
*Praise our Lords name
*Read the Bible
*Get exercise, do activities around the house or anywhere.
*Put on some good gospel music
*Never stop hoping and believing even when you fail, remember Gods grace sustains us when we fail or sin

I do most of these things every day and this will help you through the hardest times in life.

I need to do the second one and dont, but i will anyways
However i don't need the first one anymore....go figure

Praise the Lord Jesus
 
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After talking to Rickardo (don't know how it came from that discussion, but it did, thanks Rickardo) it seems to me that depression that is not caused by things like chemical imbalances are at their root about learning to be content with what God has given. Paul says that he learned to be content in excess and want. Seems to me that when we learn to be content both in our pain and out of it, that depression is no longer and issue. Maybe the secret to overcoming depression is learning to be content. Learning that love does not vanish when we are hurting, but rather perseveres through that pain, and wishes to reveal itself through the good and the bad, we just need eyes that see and recognize that love in the bad times.
 
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After talking to Rickardo (don't know how it came from that discussion, but it did, thanks Rickardo) it seems to me that depression that is not caused by things like chemical imbalances are at their root about learning to be content with what God has given. Paul says that he learned to be content in excess and want. Seems to me that when we learn to be content both in our pain and out of it, that depression is no longer and issue. Maybe the secret to overcoming depression is learning to be content. Learning that love does not vanish when we are hurting, but rather perseveres through that pain, and wishes to reveal itself through the good and the bad, we just need eyes that see and recognize that love in the bad times.

Well said and thank you Rickardo and Razzle

Praise the Lord Jesus
 
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God Has commanded that we Love one another. Don't go blaming the Lord for all the misery in this world. If you wish to blame someone,go look in the mirror. Our hate feeds others hate, hate breeds hate. If you want to know why we are all depressed and need Billions of dollars for expensive medication to keep us all from going crazy, its because we don't read the bible and listen to God's #1 commandment and that is to love God with all your heart and to love others as yourself.

This is why the world is so messed up. Read the Bible and know this, Love sums up the law, if you can love then you fulfill the whole Law. Love is not just an emotion. Read the Bible and study Love, see what Gods Word says Love is, put your Spiritual gifts and the law behind Love. Find out what Gods word says love is and then do it.

Love is the greatest gift and commandment. Keep it or spread more misery and hate, and reap it yourself also, it'll come right back on you. What comes around also goes around. Love is patient, love is kind.

For God so Loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Hope in Jesus.
 
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After talking to Rickardo (don't know how it came from that discussion, but it did, thanks Rickardo) it seems to me that depression that is not caused by things like chemical imbalances are at their root about learning to be content with what God has given. Paul says that he learned to be content in excess and want. Seems to me that when we learn to be content both in our pain and out of it, that depression is no longer and issue. Maybe the secret to overcoming depression is learning to be content. Learning that love does not vanish when we are hurting, but rather perseveres through that pain, and wishes to reveal itself through the good and the bad, we just need eyes that see and recognize that love in the bad times.

I think I disagree with the above analysis somewhat based on my own experiences with depression.

Depression can be an illness alright, I have had it all my life - even as a kid - I get it even when I'm most content, thankful and joyful - it can come over me in just minutes dragging me from the most lofty place into the pit down deep. This can happen to me many times a day - up and down every ten minutes or until psychosis robs me of my sanity.

My depression just comes - though triggers start it or amplify it - and dealing wrongly with my suffering can bring alive horrific misery inside my heart.

The problem in my books is more our understanding of perfect!

We often think perfect is feeling good and be on top of it - like those colourful Coca-Cola - Toyota or Seven-Up adds - but God knows perfect is being in good life even when things are not good, it is this that we may learn from Him.:thumbsup:

To suffer with dignity and to let sufferings turn bad life into good life - that is the purpose suffering was allowed to come about in His Truth in the first place. For God knew He was stronger than that and He wants us depressed people to share in that Truthful life He has on offer.
 
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After talking to Rickardo (don't know how it came from that discussion, but it did, thanks Rickardo) it seems to me that depression that is not caused by things like chemical imbalances are at their root about learning to be content with what God has given. Paul says that he learned to be content in excess and want. Seems to me that when we learn to be content both in our pain and out of it, that depression is no longer and issue. Maybe the secret to overcoming depression is learning to be content. Learning that love does not vanish when we are hurting, but rather perseveres through that pain, and wishes to reveal itself through the good and the bad, we just need eyes that see and recognize that love in the bad times.


What you are saying falls much along the lines of the great psychologist Albert Ellis. If we can learn to truly accept ourselves and the world around us, then we would overcome all neurosis including depression.

And as you mentioned sometimes it is caused by a chemical imbalance, and while DSM-IV is supposed to help practitioners differentiate between the two, we do have a questionable overuse oand overprescribing of anti-depressents in this great country. I think part of the problem is that physicians are trained to give everyone a "Pill" for whatever ails them and send them on their way. When we are dealing with something involving accpetance and contentment, and like you said, understanding that God's Love does not disappear when we are hurting, then no "pill" is going to help anyone realize that.
 
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I think I disagree with the above analysis somewhat based on my own experiences with depression.

Depression can be an illness alright, I have had it all my life - even as a kid - I get it even when I'm most content, thankful and joyful - it can come over me in just minutes dragging me from the most lofty place into the pit down deep. This can happen to me many times a day - up and down every ten minutes or until psychosis robs me of my sanity.

My depression just comes - though triggers start it or amplify it - and dealing wrongly with my suffering can bring alive horrific misery inside my heart.

The problem in my books is more our understanding of perfect!

We often think perfect is feeling good and be on top of it - like those colourful Coca-Cola - Toyota or Seven-Up adds - but God knows perfect is being in good life even when things are not good, it is this that we may learn from Him.:thumbsup:

To suffer with dignity and to let sufferings turn bad life into good life - that is the purpose suffering was allowed to come about in His Truth in the first place. For God knew He was stronger than that and He wants us depressed people to share in that Truthful life He has on offer.

Well said, Praise my loving Jesus...
 
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What you are saying falls much along the lines of the great psychologist Albert Ellis. If we can learn to truly accept ourselves and the world around us, then we would overcome all neurosis including depression.

And as you mentioned sometimes it is caused by a chemical imbalance, and while DSM-IV is supposed to help practitioners differentiate between the two, we do have a questionable overuse and overprescribing of anti-depressents in this great country. I think part of the problem is that physicians are trained to give everyone a "Pill" for whatever ails them and send them on their way. When we are dealing with something involving accpetance and contentment, and like you said, understanding that God's Love does not disappear when we are hurting, then no "pill" is going to help anyone realize that.


Again, well said. Thanks Rickardo.

I don't know who Albert Ellis is or what he says.
All i know is that God's truth does not change no matter who speaks it. The truth is just the plain old truth and it comes from God in the first place. The problem is that appearances can be deceiving. We all try and lean on Gods truth, sometimes it comes from different places, The bible never deceives us, we just fail to see what it says sometimes. Grace sustains me through it all and i must lean on Gods word first and other things second. Doctors are there to help us, but they're not God. They fail many times and help many times. If doctors were all God fearing, we would all be better off.

I can't argue with the truth, i can't argue with God
Praise Jesus Christ for saving this sinner from the pit of depression and Hell.

I once was lost but now I'm found, was blind but now i see..
Was grace that taught my heart to fear
Amazing Grace, how sweet it is.

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HAVE A LITTLE TALK WITH JESUS
(Cleavant Derricks)

I once was lost in sin but Jesus took me in
And then a little light from heaven filled my soul
It bathed my heart in love and it wrote my name above
And just a little talk with my Jesus made me whole
Have a little talk with Jesus tell him all about our troubles
Hear our fainted cry answer by and by
Feel a little prayer wheel turning know a little fire is burning
Find a little talk with Jesus makes it right
Sometimes my path grows drear without a ray of cheer
And then a cloud of doubt may hide the day
The mists of sin may rise and hide the starry skies
But just a little talk with Jesus clears the way
Have a little talk with Jesus...
I may have doubts and fears my eyes be filled with tears
But Jesus is a friend who watches day and night
I go to him in prayer he knows my every care
And just a little talk with my Jesus makes it right
Have a little talk with Jesus...
Find a little talk with Jesus makes it right



 
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I deal with depression now and than, and it shows me there is another area in my life that needs healing. I also deal with PTSD and DID and sometimes it is another part of me that is dealing with the depression, and in that area it needs deeper healing, so what I do is I center my thoughts on Jesus, and ask for healing and meet with my counselor for help in this and any area that needs healing and find that helps me.
 
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What you are saying falls much along the lines of the great psychologist Albert Ellis. If we can learn to truly accept ourselves and the world around us, then we would overcome all neurosis including depression.
many people accept themselves and still fall prey to depression. Depression is a tool of the devil...a tool in which he convinces us that the "grass on the other side of the fence is always greener" so to speak. It's a lie that we are not loved, that we don't have what we need to be content and happy. depression is a belief that we are not and can not be happy.
And as you mentioned sometimes it is caused by a chemical imbalance, and while DSM-IV is supposed to help practitioners differentiate between the two, we do have a questionable overuse oand overprescribing of anti-depressents in this great country. I think part of the problem is that physicians are trained to give everyone a "Pill" for whatever ails them and send them on their way. When we are dealing with something involving accpetance and contentment, and like you said, understanding that God's Love does not disappear when we are hurting, then no "pill" is going to help anyone realize that.
Got that right.
 
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I deal with depression now and than, and it shows me there is another area in my life that needs healing.
very interesting concept, thanks for sharing.
I also deal with PTSD and DID and sometimes it is another part of me that is dealing with the depression, and in that area it needs deeper healing, so what I do is I center my thoughts on Jesus, and ask for healing and meet with my counselor for help in this and any area that needs healing and find that helps me.
thanks for sharing, personally, I find this very helpful to my life and to the studies we are currently involved in.
 
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