When you are a prophetic seer

[Heart2Soul]

I have had many instances of God using me to speak to others, some edifying, some warnings....I really didn't ask for this gift. I wanted to operate in the gifts of healing...but it wasn't meant to be I suppose...the thing most disturbing is my friends, family and church family stopped hanging around me. I had one of them tell me because they didn't want me to know their sin...I explained I don't think it works like that. I was young and really didn't understand the gift myself...I only knew that obedience was the most important thing. Now after years of despise, abuse and rejection I am empty. What did I do wrong? I still see into peoples lives but I don't share anymore. This has caused much grief and anguish and separation of relationship between me and my Father. Please help me understand.

 

[Anguspure]

Wow! is all I can say. What an amazing way to identify with Christ in His suffering.
Prayers for you brother, and if you see anything in me I would appreciate it if you would let me know, I would like to be known by a man of God, even if it exposed me to some shame.

 

[Tolworth John]

I still see into peoples lives but I don't share anymore.

...I only knew that obedience was the most important thing.

You said the answer yourself.

 

[Heart2Soul]

You said the answer yourself.

So then what you are saying is that this is simply the way it has to be...well then pray that Abba, Father, will forgive me and restore me to a rightful place with him. Thank you.

 

[Antig]

How do you know it is God that is using you?

 

[Heart2Soul]

Wow! is all I can say. What an amazing way to identify with Christ in His suffering.
Prayers for you brother, and if you see anything in me I would appreciate it if you would let me know, I would like to be known by a man of God, even if it exposed me to some shame.

I see a child of God who desires to be used of Him and is willing to yield to what God has called him to do...but I see instances where He has instructed you to go here..go there...do this..do that..but you doubted whether it was God's voice or just your own voice. You have missed some great opportunities where God wanted to bless you..It is time for you to just obey His voice and do accordingly. Sometimes it may seem meaningless and silly, other times it may seem above your abilities or knowledge. You can always pray and ask for confirmation. If it keeps coming up in your thoughts frequently then I would definitely pay attention...must be important. Remember this, it doesn't take a prophet or a person gifted in hearing from God, We all have that ability to hear from God ourselves..you can hear from God yourself and you can ask God yourself to reveal any areas in your life that is hindering you from growing spiritually.....He would rather you hear from Him yourself than have a Prophet speak to you...does that make sense?

 

[Heart2Soul]

How do you know it is God that is using you?

Well, I know His voice and no other voice will I follow.

 

[Sabertooth]

@Heart2Soul , were you shunned to the same extent before being saved?

edit: Feel free to prophesy to me, too, but I'd prefer it in a PM.

 

[Heart2Soul]

@Heart2Soul , were you shunned to the same extent before being saved?

edit: Feel free to prophesy to me, too, but I'd prefer it in a PM.

It seems I was....but I can't say if it was because I was shy or if it was because of being from a poor family...all I know is I noticed it most after i got saved and when I started hearing God speak to me and show me things.

 

[Heart2Soul]

@Heart2Soul , were you shunned to the same extent before being saved?

edit:

 

[Sabertooth]

I didn't prophesy to that other person...that was a Word of Wisdom and encouragement to hear from God himself.

I get Word of Wisdom often, too. It's clearly different than my own wisdom. God is awesome!

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Discernment is for the purpose of prayer I have always heard it said. Sometimes seeing into another's lives and discerning sins is God asking someone to open a line up for Him to work in that person's life thru prayer. Others times it could be seeing the sliver in one's eye while having a log in our own. That being another reason for prayer so that God can search our own hearts. As ambassadors of Christ we're to bring every thought captive to Him.
If we're to be followers of Christ then we know that prayer and the word of God are our most effective (only?) weapons. Jesus took everything to the Father. His mode of operation was to use parable/alegories to explain situations thru circumstances provided.

Here are a few of the things written in an excellent book (it was used as a group church study ) for discovering gifts entitled Network (a network ministry resources) participation Guide written by Bruce Bugby and Don Cousins.

But to each one (every believer) is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 1 Corinthians 12:7 (The purpose of gifts)

Natural talents are given at birth.While spiritual talents are given at spiritual birth. Natural talents are given to all people while spiritual talents are given to believers. Sometime talents can be transformed by the Holy Spirit. Both natural talents and spiritual gifts need to be identified and developed.

The fruit of the Holy Spirit peace love gentleness kindness long-suffering etc. are 'being' qualities that have the attitudes of the same while spiritual gifts are 'doing' qualities that entail aptitudes. The fruit is a by-product of a healthy walk with God while the latter are abilities given by the Holy Spirit. Both are necessary for effective ministry.

Then there's the Christian discipline (meditation, study,fasting,tithing) all should be practised in a believers life. That's for the building up of the individual believer. Spiritual gifts each person may only practise a few not all of them and it's always meant for building up the body of Christ. Each person has a job in this. Because of that each person has their own personal style and passion as well.

God be with you all.

 

[Sabertooth]

It seems I was....but I can't say if it was because I was shy or if it was because of being from a poor family...

The reason that I asked is because I noticed that Aspergers people (autistic people without other complications) often present like unrealized prophets before they get saved. I have experienced deliverance, yet I am still considered Aspergers/autistic by the secular world.

 

[Dave-W]

..the thing most disturbing is my friends, family and church family stopped hanging around me. I had one of them tell me because they didn't want me to know their sin..

Yeah - that often happens to people with prophetic gifts. I have known several in that same situation. I have been occasionally used prophetically myself;but not in that way.

I was young and really didn't understand the gift myself.

That is why mentoring/discipling in the effective and proper use of the gift is important.

I still see into peoples lives but I don't share anymore. This has caused much grief and anguish and separation of relationship between me and my Father. Please help me understand.

My mom had that exact same thing when she was growing up and God finally told her it was for her to pray.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I have had many instances of God using me to speak to others, some edifying, some warnings....I really didn't ask for this gift. I wanted to operate in the gifts of healing...but it wasn't meant to be I suppose...the thing most disturbing is my friends, family and church family stopped hanging around me. I had one of them tell me because they didn't want me to know their sin...I explained I don't think it works like that. I was young and really didn't understand the gift myself...I only knew that obedience was the most important thing. Now after years of despise, abuse and rejection I am empty. What did I do wrong? I still see into peoples lives but I don't share anymore. This has caused much grief and anguish and separation of relationship between me and my Father. Please help me understand.

Greetings, Heart2Soul. I have some comments, but first let me see if you truly have the goods. If you could, I would appreciate a word from the Lord. But not a standard or generic prophecy (forgive me for being so blunt, but I take these issues very seriously). I want a detailed prophecy, and one related very specifically to me.

In Christ Jesus,
Hidden

 

[Dave-W]

Well, I know His voice and no other voice will I follow.

Good. But even Derek Prince and other people with HUGE prophetic giftings use a check-list to MAKE SURE the devil is not trying to slip one over on them. (he has had thousands of years to practice on mimicking God's voice)

http://www.reallifechurch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/prophesy.pdf

TESTING PROPHECY
Taken from How to Judge Prophecy, Derek Prince Publications.

1. The end purpose of all true prophecy is to build up, to admonish, and
to encourage the people of God. Anything that is not directed to that end is
not true prophecy. (1 Cor.14:3)

2. All true prophecy agrees with the letter and the spirit of the Scriptures. (2
Tim. 3:16)

3. All true prophecy centres in Jesus Christ and exalts and glorifies him. (John
16:13)

4. True prophecy produces fruit in character and conduct that agrees with the
fruit of the Holy Spirit. (Gal. 5:22-23)

5. If a prophetic revelation contains predictions concerning the future, are
these predictions fulfilled? If not, the revelation is not from God. (Deut. 18:20-
22)

6. The fact that a person makes a prediction about the future that comes true does not necessarily prove that the person is a true prophet. If such a person, by their ministry, turns others away from obedience to the one true God, then that person is a false prophet, even if the predictions they make are correct about the future. (Deut. 13:1-5)

7. True prophecy, given by the Holy Spirit, gives freedom and not bondage. (Gal. 5:1)

8. True prophecy, given by the Holy Spirit, gives life and not death. (2 Cor. 3:6)

9. True prophecy, given by the Holy Spirit, agrees with the Holy Spirit within each believer who hears it. (1 John 2:27)



The purpose of prophecy is to...
BUILD UP
LIFT UP
CHEER UP
the saints !

PRMI.org

 

[Heart2Soul]

Greetings, Heart2Soul. I have some comments, but first let me see if you truly have the goods. If you could, I would appreciate a word from the Lord. But not a standard or generic prophecy (forgive me for being so blunt, but I take these issues very seriously). I want a detailed prophecy, and one related specifically to me.

In Christ Jesus,
Hidden

Good. But even Derek Prince and other people with HUGE prophetic giftings use a check-list to MAKE SURE the devil is not trying to slip one over on them. (he has had thousands of years to practice on mimicking God's voice)

http://www.reallifechurch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/prophesy.pdf

TESTING PROPHECY
Taken from How to Judge Prophecy, Derek Prince Publications.

1. The end purpose of all true prophecy is to build up, to admonish, and
to encourage the people of God. Anything that is not directed to that end is
not true prophecy. (1 Cor.14:3)

2. All true prophecy agrees with the letter and the spirit of the Scriptures. (2
Tim. 3:16)

3. All true prophecy centres in Jesus Christ and exalts and glorifies him. (John
16:13)

4. True prophecy produces fruit in character and conduct that agrees with the
fruit of the Holy Spirit. (Gal. 5:22-23)

5. If a prophetic revelation contains predictions concerning the future, are
these predictions fulfilled? If not, the revelation is not from God. (Deut. 18:20-
22)

6. The fact that a person makes a prediction about the future that comes true does not necessarily prove that the person is a true prophet. If such a person, by their ministry, turns others away from obedience to the one true God, then that person is a false prophet, even if the predictions they make are correct about the future. (Deut. 13:1-5)

7. True prophecy, given by the Holy Spirit, gives freedom and not bondage. (Gal. 5:1)

8. True prophecy, given by the Holy Spirit, gives life and not death. (2 Cor. 3:6)

9. True prophecy, given by the Holy Spirit, agrees with the Holy Spirit within each believer who hears it. (1 John 2:27)



The purpose of prophecy is to...
BUILD UP
LIFT UP
CHEER UP
the saints !

PRMI.org

This is the gift of prophecy...not the office of a Prophet such as Jonah. But I didn't put this post up to debate whether I was a prophetess or not but rather to seek encouragement to serve God in this area again. It has been a few years now since I have been used by God. It isn't for my glory...it is for His Glory.

 

[Sabertooth]

"Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith;..." Romans 12:6

 

[Dave-W]

This is the gift of prophecy...not the office of a Prophet such as Jonah.

Understood. Nothing I said was specifically for the office of prophet. It is all for people who have the gift. (and also for those receiving a prophecy)

It has been a few years now since I have been used by God. It isn't for my glory...it is for His Glory.

Amen. But sitting on the gift is not good. Find a good mentor to train you in its proper use.

 

[Hidden In Him]

This is the gift of prophecy...not the office of a Prophet such as Jonah. But I didn't put this post up to debate whether I was a prophetess or not but rather to seek encouragement to serve God in this area again. It has been a few years now since I have been used by God. It isn't for my glory...it is for His Glory.

Understand, I wasn't being so faithless as to be merely testing you. My issue with this gift is that it gets falsified A LOT these days. People stand up and profess to be "prophesying" when their just rattling off generic catch all phrases, and that is an insult to the true gift. But then there are the real ones. But before I could encourage you to operate in the real gift, I would have to know if it definitely is or not. So I was simply being spiritually responsible, and using proper precaution.

God bless,
Hidden