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Just wondering, how many of you belong to a certain denomination? I find I just do not fit into any denomination. I actualy was called "Bapticostal" lol. I guess it is because I believe in a lot of the baptist beliefs but also some pentecostal.

But when will we stop accepting the denominations we belong to as being the final authority rather than the bible? If someone was to challenge you on a certain doctorin and their scripture was in order and well layed out yet it goes against what you were taught should you accept it or should you continue to make excusess?

Way too often I find people trying to refute good sound doctorin by twisting scriptures to a point that they may say what that person says but it ends up in conflict with the rest of the bible. Yet all they can see is how "they are right".

When will we learn to stop acting like kids and grow up?
 

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[Quote:] when will we stop accepting the denominations we belong to as being the final authority rather than the bible? [/Quote]

The Bible has been altered, the final authority is a witness from the Holy Ghost...

Great to see people thinking for themselves! I am now happily in a denomination - chosen not because it is my families church, or because I like their pot-lucks, but because it is where I have felt the Spirit.

I pray that you will all find what you need :)
 
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Just wondering, how many of you belong to a certain denomination? I find I just do not fit into any denomination. I actualy was called "Bapticostal" lol. I guess it is because I believe in a lot of the baptist beliefs but also some pentecostal.

Your icon says "Faith Baptist Fellowship," yet you spout Charismatic/Pentecostal dogma, hum...:scratch:, I got it,
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your Bapticostal!?!

Fault me all you want, but Bapticostal is a valid denomination. Here is a little FYI for ya:

"The Bapticostal movement is a movement in some Baptist churches towards adopting certain elements of the charismatic movement. The word Bapticostal is a portmanteau of Baptist and Pentecostal. The term has been used in a limited manner to describe a worship style of high-tempo Contemporary Christian music accompanied with spontaneous shouts, clapping and hand raising. But it also describes those churches where members profess to have and exhibit the charismatic gifts that are practiced in pentecostalism such as speaking in tongues, being slain in the Spirit, or being granted a word of knowledge. The prevalence of such beliefs within Baptist churches worldwide is unknown. In some unions or conventions it hardly exists (e.g. Eastern Europe) but in others (Australia, New Zealand) it is common. In the United States, it has been estimated that among Southern Baptist churches, 5% of the churches could be classified as Bapticostal, and the numbers are growing.

While the Bapticostal movement may be gaining support with individual churches in the convention, the movement has been met with official opposition. In 1999, a regional Southern Baptist association of churches expelled the Calvary Baptist Church in Marshfield, Missouri for the church teaching and exhibition of speaking in tongues and church members being slain in the Spirit.

More recently, in 2006 the International Mission Board passed standards for missionaries which would disqualify those who espoused opposition to traditional Southern Baptist doctrines of eternal security and a rejection of a salvific view of baptism, and also engaged in speaking in tongues or had a "private prayer language".

Following the new qualification of missionary appointments, the Rev. Dwight McKissic gave a sermon during a chapel service to students attending Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and announced that he speaks in tongues and uses a private prayer language and emphasized not taking a cessationist view of the charismatic gifts. Southwestern quickly distanced itself from McKissic's comments saying,

"Rev. McKissic’s interpretation of tongues as 'ecstatic utterance' is not a position that we suspect would be advocated by most faculty or trustees. In keeping with Baptist convictions regarding religious liberty, we affirm Rev. McKissic’s right to believe and advocate his position. Equally in keeping with our emphasis of religious liberty we reserve the right not to disseminate openly views which we fear may be harmful to the churches."

However, shortly after his election as president of the Convention, Rev. Frank Page expanded on his "big tent" view of Southern Baptists by saying,

"Churches must deal with charismatic issues and theology as a part of their own autonomous structure. I think that many charismatics function well within traditional Southern Baptist churches. In fact, we have several in our church. Some are more vocal and sometimes disruptive. Churches must deal with those kinds of attitudes on a case by case basis. Trustee bodies must do the same."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bapticostal_movement

Fault me all you want, make fun of me if you will, but it is a valid movement.

So before you fault somebody, please take the time to check it out.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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Fault me all you want, make fun of me if you will, but it is a valid movement.

So before you fault somebody, please take the time to check it out.

God Bless

Till all are one.

LOL, there is nothing to fault. I just think it is so funny that we try to classify people. By the by...after reading that I have to say I am not bapticostal either. Guess I have to keep looking for my denomination lol.

That's a joke by the way.

There is no board of men that can ever make a rule on doctorin since our doctorin is already layed out in the bible. When I read in the bible things like speaking in tongues then I have to say that this is a real gift. But then I read in the bible about the order we are to use that gift and I have to say that the charismatic movment is a bunch of hogwash due to it being out of order.

Basicly all I am saying is that we need to read the bible for ourselves because no matter how spiritual the board is...they are still men who are not being moved on by the spirit to create scripture.

Also by the by on the issue of the bibles authority...Some things may be lost in translation due to our languedge...but the message is the same. Theonly thing lost in translation is the exact meaning of some words. Such as the word love. In other languedges they have many words for love...some speaking of romantic and some of unconditional. But if we read in context we still get the same information.
 
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I don't find that I fit into any denomination either...I've tried...but my beliefs are a mix of evangelical Protestant/charismatic or Pentecostal/Eastern Orthodox/Lutheran. LOL! This isn't because I just pick and choose whatever I'd like to believe; but it's based on what I got from the Bible. I'm not going to say that my interpretation is the right one and everyone else's is wrong. Maybe mine is the wrong one. But I don't think that any denomination has it perfectly there either...

I agree with you that we shouldn't have our denominations as the final authority. Sure, people have come up with some really good interpretations and doctrines and theology over the millenia...but back when I used to belong to a denomination, sometimes I felt the Holy Spirit telling me one thing, and the church telling me another...and I'd rather choose God's wisdom over man's.

So now, I'm just seeking God on my own and seeing where He'll take me. :) I still go to church (a non denom church), and I agree with what they believe there and what the pastor says. But I'd rather have the Holy Spirit and the Bible as my final authority.

However, if someone feels drawn to a specific denomination; like Catholicism or Pentecostalism or Eastern Orthodoxy, etc, I'm not going to criticize them. It may be that God is drawing them there, according to His plan. I personally don't feel very comfortable with any denomination, but I know there are people who do...I'm just trusting God that He will lead each person where they're supposed to be. :)

God bless
 
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