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'When we try to control others it is s signpost of our own dis-ease.'

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'When we try to control others it is s signpost of our own dis-ease.'

Over the years I have run into many people that would like to control me.

Some say my posts are too long, others tell me I have no right to exist at all.

Recently one person told me the type I was using was too large. (I'm 54..so eyesight is going downhill.)

Others tell me I do not use 'I' enough.

Then the opposite group writes me that tell me I am an egomaniac because my posts contain too many 'I's"

I am not bound by such prejudice that these people exhibit.

When they let the 'length' of a post or 'type' size I use disturb them it says it all about their state of inner peace...nil.

When we try to control others it is s signpost of our own dis-ease.

If I see a post I do not like...I just go onto the next one.

Whenever we get upset with others, it is good to look at things in perspective of the 3 laws that govern us.

All humans answer to:

Man made law

Natural law

Divine law (for those that believe in the spiritual realm**)

Always remember, if a person's actions do not violate any of these laws, then it becomes more of a 'subjective question' of violation.

When likes and dislikes of actions become subjective, then, making demands on others without a firm foundation in the laws bases our decision in our ego.

As such, the general rule is:

Persons should seek to please themselves with their actions first before they please the ego's of others.

**for further discussion about spiritual or divine laws that govern us see:

'Every Atheist Serves Two Gods' at:

http: (removed due to censorship guidelines)
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=342.0



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'When we try to control others it is s signpost of our own dis-ease.'

Over the years I have run into many people that would like to control me.

Some say my posts are too long, others tell me I have no right to exist at all.

Recently one person told me the type I was using was too large. (I'm 54..so eyesight is going downhill.)

Others tell me I do not use 'I' enough.

Then the opposite group writes me that tell me I am an egomaniac because my posts contain too many 'I's"

I am not bound by such prejudice that these people exhibit.

When they let the 'length' of a post or 'type' size I use disturb them it says it all about their state of inner peace...nil.

When we try to control others it is s signpost of our own dis-ease.
I am wondering why you regard quite common forms of use- and helpful communication, reaction and feedback the attempt of "controlling you".

If I see a post I do not like...I just go onto the next one.
...and collect your discontent until it finally results in a general complaint about the posts of others - like this OP.

Whenever we get upset with others, it is good to look at things in perspective of the 3 laws that govern us.
Does feeling controlled for getting opinions how to improve your communication count as "getting upset"?

All humans answer to:

Man made law

Natural law

Divine law (for those that believe in the spiritual realm**)

Always remember, if a person's actions do not violate any of these laws, then it becomes more of a 'subjective question' of violation.
I don´t know there is a divine law, and natural law is of the factual kind (it can impossibly be violated, that´s exactly the hallmark of a natural law).
Other than that I agree with your idea that moral calls are subjective.

When likes and dislikes of actions become subjective, then, making demands on others without a firm foundation in the laws bases our decision in our ego.
As does rejecting those demands, or feeling controlled by them.

As such, the general rule is:

Persons should seek to please themselves with their actions first before they please the ego's of others.
Do "people should" statements counts as "demands"?
I am not sure I agree, but what´s even worse I do not see how this statement follows from anything you have previously said.
 
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'When we try to control others it is s signpost of our own dis-ease.'

And exactly what disease is that?

Over the years I have run into many people that would like to control me.

Some say my posts are too long, others tell me I have no right to exist at all.

I don't see how somebody saying your posts are too long is really an attempt at control. They are really just providing you with feedback so that more people will read your posts. Can you prove that there was some sort of control behind their feedback?

As for the whole "no right to exist at all" thing, I'd say just ignore thoes people, considering that I doubt that they represent anything other than a sort of fringe opinion.

Recently one person told me the type I was using was too large. (I'm 54..so eyesight is going downhill.)

I'm sorry about the eyesight thing, but once again, they are just providing you feedback. I don't see any sort of control behind it.

Others tell me I do not use 'I' enough.

Then the opposite group writes me that tell me I am an egomaniac because my posts contain too many 'I's"

This is just an example of how you can't please everybody. If you feel that you use too many Is, then use less. If you don't, then use more. Just do what you want to do on this topipc. You don't need to please everybody, because it's impossible to do. However, once again, there doesn't seem to be any sort of "control" behind what they are saying.

I am not bound by such prejudice that these people exhibit.

What prejudice are these people exhibiting? They are giving you feedback that they think will help you.

When they let the 'length' of a post or 'type' size I use disturb them it says it all about their state of inner peace...nil.

I believe that they are just trying to help you, I don't think there is any sort of control behind what they are doing. It's not as if they are making you do anything that you don't want to do.

When we try to control others it is s signpost of our own dis-ease.

Like I asked previously, what disease is that?

If I see a post I do not like...I just go onto the next one.

I must say that here quatona makes a good point. You don't seem to be exhibiting this rule of yours in this OP. If you disagree with them, then just ignore them.

Whenever we get upset with others, it is good to look at things in perspective of the 3 laws that govern us.

What exactly do you define as "getting upset"? Does calmly giving a suggestion as to how to make your posts easier to read for others qualify as getting upset?

All humans answer to:

Man made law

Natural law

Divine law (for those that believe in the spiritual realm**)

I believe that it's more or less impossible to mess with natural law, and being an Atheist, I disbelieve in any sort of "divine law".

Always remember, if a person's actions do not violate any of these laws, then it becomes more of a 'subjective question' of violation.

I do agree with you on this point.

When likes and dislikes of actions become subjective,

The majority of the time (99% of the time) likes and dislikes are subjective. They depend on the person.

then, making demands on others without a firm foundation in the laws bases our decision in our ego.

In my opinion, so is complaining about people's subjective feedback to you, and feeling controlled by said subjective feedback.

As such, the general rule is:

Persons should seek to please themselves with their actions first before they please the ego's of others.

I personally find that this rule does work, but there are plenty of other rules that can be more effective. I personally am a huge fan of the Golden Rule. At any rate, what does this have to do with the rest of your post?
 
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