When was hell created?

[The Righterzpen]

I'm only trying to prove that hell is inside of the earth.

Hell is not a materially accessible place. Even if the belief was that it is "inside the earth". We can't get in some sort of craft and "find hell". If we could go into the core of the planet; all we'd see is what is materially there. Just like it says "God is in heaven." When astronauts went into space; they didn't see God. Heaven and hell are parts of the spiritual realm; we can not get there as living entities.

"or under the earth, was able to open the book"

Did you read what I wrote; because I did explain these passages. You have not responded to anything I said though. You've just repeated yourself.

If you're going to interpret Scripture. You need to use Scripture to do so. Commentaries are only as accurate as they use the Bible to interpret itself. To say a sealed book is one who's contents are hidden, isn't definitive enough. The Bible actually tells you what the sealed book is that the Father is holding in the beginning of Revelation 5. Because in other places; the Bible tells you that itself is the sealed book.

It though
would have been a great opportunity to also show that he didn't actually
deal then with the real Samuel.

Do you believe it wasn't the real Samuel? There's debate about whether it was or whether it wasn't. This link gives a good summery of the arguments either way. I did study this once and I had a hard time determining what really happened. I could go back and try to figure it out again.

Did the Spirit of Samuel Communicate to Saul at En Dor?

 

[nolidad]

You understand now, what you are able to understand now. When you are ready to understand more, you will. Only God knows what each of us is able to bear....
We must first give up the idea that we can gain wisdom through our own study before we can receive revelation from God.

I find no fault in any you say or believe.

So you are an enlightened adept then and have advanced beyond the Words God inspired to be written then?

YOpur whole response was just a feeble tome in self aggrendizement

 

[RaymondG]

So you are an enlightened adept then and have advanced beyond the Words God inspired to be written then?

YOpur whole response was just a feeble tome in self aggrendizement

Thank you for your kind words and the conversation.

May God bless you on your journey to heaven.

 

[nolidad]

Thank you for your kind words and the conversation.

May God bless you on your journey to heaven.

So do you think the lost and the fallen angels will all be saved ultimately or not?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mind Tyvm!

Scripture doesn't mention this.

But, then, the question assumes that "hell" is a place, or a thing, in and of itself.

The closest we get to something like an answer to this question is that the fires of judgment "prepared" for "the devil and his angels" in Matthew 25:41. In other words, that the unrepentant wicked share a similar or the same judgment as the devils will have.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[DennisTate]

Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mind Tyvm!

Isaiah 14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that didst lay low the nations!

13 And thou saidst in thy heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit upon the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to Sheol, to the uttermost parts of the pit.


Ezekiel 28

11 Moreover the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13 Thou wast in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, the topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was in thee; in the day that thou wast created they were prepared.

14 Thou wast the anointed cherub that covereth: and I set thee, [so that] thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till unrighteousness was found in thee.

16 By the abundance of thy traffic they filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore have I cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God; and I have destroyed thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thy heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I have cast thee to the ground; I have laid thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 By the multitude of thine iniquities, in the unrighteousness of thy traffic, thou hast profaned thy sanctuaries; therefore have I brought forth a fire from the midst of thee; it hath devoured thee, and I have turned thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the peoples shall be astonished at thee: thou art become a terror, and thou shalt nevermore have any being.

Both seem to fit with this modern account:
Dr. Richard Eby's Near-Death Experience and the Second Coming of Christ

Jesus hesitated as I tried to capture the immensity of his explanations.

"You must understand, my son, that original creation mirrored the composition and perfection of Person-God. All creation vibrated in unison with us! There was total accord and harmony everywhere as the whole creation was resonating with and in God!

"Each separate thing or being thus carried out an appointed task in our scheme for the universe. A heaven-form of music resulted as even the stars sang in their appointed circuits. Here in paradise you are hearing these melodious vibrations directly upon your new mind, undistorted. On Earth you heard distorted sounds through the air waves. Throughout heaven the music flows from my throne, uninterrupted, undefiled, and peace-giving."

Jesus paused again.

"My book tells of the time when Lucifer's rebellion in heaven changed some things. He sought to usurp my Father's throne, assume his position as the most high God, and to rule the universe. For that blasphemy Lucifer was cast from heaven to Earth; in fact, I saw him fall as a bolt of lightning! In a tantrum of hate and rage over being deposed so fast he and his fallen angels disfigured our perfect Earth. It became void and uninhabitable. For punishment befitting his enemy of God, Lucifer was given a new name, Satan, since he was the self-appointed 'adversary' of the Almighty. Anything that God had made, Satan would attempt to destroy from then on. As Lucifer he had been created the highest angel about the throne, one of his assignments and talents being the chief musician in charge of worship and music. In his rebellious anger he set about destroying harmony on and in the Earth from then on. That is why the Earth where he operates now is out of harmony with God's other creations. In my book we call this disharmony 'sin', because it defies God's will that even the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament show his handiwork.

"But be of good cheer, my son. The Father has permitted me to overcome Satan's world system of sin, and to destroy the works of Satan, and to re-establish righteousness in the hearts of my friends. Eventually in his chosen time he will restore all creation as it once was, in him!"