When The Heavens Are No More.

[jeffweeder]

Job 14
12 So man lies down and does not rise.
Until the heavens are no longer,
He will not awake nor be aroused out of his sleep.
13 "Oh that You would hide me in Sheol,
That You would conceal me until Your wrath returns to You,
That You would set a limit for me and remember me!
14 "If a man dies, will he live again?
All the days of my struggle I will wait
Until my change comes.

So the ressurection doesnt happen until the heavens are no more. WOAH
Any scriptures from the NT about my change or ressurection?
see 1cor 15:50-1thess 4

mt 24
35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.
37 "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah.

The ressurection doesnt happen until he comes back and raises us the last day.-When the heavens are no-more.

2pet 3

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

What kind of person should we be, as we look to this day like Peter did?

2thess 1
6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you,
7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire,
8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.

Once again we have Eternal destruction, but the very same day we have our glorified ressurected body.Not only are the Heavens no more but they who have rejected the gospel have lost the chance in this age of grace through the preaching of the gospel to the whole world.
The end has most certainly come.

Is there any chance we can precede to the Lord before the heavens are no more,?;


15

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words

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No, the ressurection must happen first and the unity of the scriptures- JOB---JESUS- PETER --PAUL----- suggests that this will happen when the heavens be no more.


So any talk of being gathered or raptured away to the lord before the heavens dissappear is unscriptual.
I will raise you the last day.
How can you define a last day, how will you know it is the last day?
Easy, the heavens will be no more.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

So the ressurection doesnt happen until the heavens are no more. WOAH
Any scriptures from the NT about my change or ressurection?
see 1cor 15:50-1thess 4




The ressurection doesnt happen until he comes back and raises us the last day.-When the heavens are no-more.





What kind of person should we be, as we look to this day like Peter did?


Once again we have Eternal destruction, but the very same day we have our glorified ressurected body.Not only are the Heavens no more but they who have rejected the gospel have lost the chance in this age of grace through the preaching of the gospel to the whole world.
The end has most certainly come.

Is there any chance we can precede to the Lord before the heavens are no more,?;


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No, the ressurection must happen first and the unity of the scriptures- JOB---JESUS- PETER --PAUL----- suggests that this will happen when the heavens be no more.


So any talk of being gathered or raptured away to the lord before the heavens dissappear is unscriptual.
I will raise you the last day.
How can you define a last day, how will you know it is the last day?
Easy, the heavens will be no more.

Hi Jeff!
There is a 2nd resurrection at the end of the millenium according to Rev 20. The 1st resurrection included:
1. Jesus
2. those who believe prior to the day of wrath (rev 6, rev 7, Isaiah 26, Rev 12, 2 Thess 2, and many more)
3. the two witnesses (Rev 11)
4. those who were martyred but did not take the mark (Rev 20)

Those who are first will be last and the last, first:
Mat 19:30But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first. Mat 20:8"When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.' Mat 20:16"So the last will be first, and the first will be last."




1Cr 15:21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
1Cr 15:23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

 

[jeffweeder]

hello Jen

whenever the first ressurection happens, the heavens will have to be no more.

At Jesus ressurection the heavens were still there.

So this was not what even Job was refering to.
The ressurection/ redemption of the body day of all the little fish of history that belong to him

 

[HisdaughterJen]

hello Jen

whenever the first ressurection happens, the heavens will have to be no more.

At Jesus ressurection the heavens were still there.

So this was not what even Job was refering to.
The ressurection/ redemption of the body day of all the little fish of history that belong to him

It is my understanding that Job would be part of the 2nd resurrection...under law....but I could be mistaken. However, there is a first resurrection and a 2nd resurrection. The heavens pass away at the end of the millenium:

Rev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth–Gog and Magog–to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Rev 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Rev 20:15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.

 

[Laqachbeforethetrib]

Jeff,
The first resurrection is Pentecost, and the first of firstfruits is in, but the full harvest is still being 'cut' and will be gathered in -in regenerated bodies, to the same place where the firstfruits is- before He cleanses the earth and begins the second crop for the second harvest which is to be after the thousand year reign of His Sabbath Peace; which Sabbath is earth's last day of one thousand years. -Jesus, the Firstfruits, raised firstfruits of the harvest according to the law's oracles about that day, with and in Him, bodily, at His resurrection. They are in heaven in their bodies of regeneration with Him, and we who are born again are part of the first resurrection and have the promise of the bodies of regeneration before the thousand years of His Last Day Sabbath for earth and second resurrection of the dead at the end, when He regenerates the heavens and earth all new by the cleansing fire which dissolves the elements which He re-forms.

In the book of Job in the 19th chapter, verses 25-27, Job says he will be resurrected in his own body of flesh and see God his Redeemer stand on the earth in the last day.

For I know [that] my redeemer liveth, and [that] he shall stand at the latter [day] upon the earth:
And [though] after my skin [worms] destroy this [body], yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; [though] my reins be consumed within me.
Terrie/yeshuasavedme [I can't log in under my username yeshuasavedme, for some reason].

 

[Laqachbeforethetrib]

Job is part of the first resurrection, being raised in the Spirit of regeneration already, and one of the "spirits of just men made perfect [born again] who were taken to Zion above by the LORD Jesus when He descended and "Led Captivity captive at His ascension".

Job was never under the law, but that has no bearing on the resurrection of the dead in Christ. Job was learned in the promise of the Redeemer, being a descendent of Abraham through Esau ["Jobab" the second chief in Edom, say the ancient Jews], for Abraham taught his sons the revelation of the Redeemer which he had and rejoiced in, in Genesis 22, when He saw the day of the LORD Jesus, as a prophet acting out the living oracle of that day to come. -Job was also familiar with Enoch's writings, as much in Job is referring to what is first written there [even though Job's comforters read the wisdom written by Enoch for his descendents, they misapplied it, as unseeing men still do today], and the resurrection of the righteous and the millennial reign is taught in that book, before the final reforming of the heavens and earth.

 

[jeffweeder]

It is my understanding that Job would be part of the 2nd resurrection...under law....but I could be mistaken. However, there is a first resurrection and a 2nd resurrection.

Well we know that there are no wicked ones in the first ressurection--blessed and holy are those who get to partake of this 1st ressurection.
Daniel would have slept to the end of days and partook of the ressurection of gods own, rather than the ressurection of the contempt. DAN 12
Job therefore will partake of the good.

The heavens pass away at the end of the millenium

Peter tells you that this is what he is looking for, he tells you when Jesus comes according to the promise of his coming, this will happen.
Jesus said it also.
This means that what we look forward to is not the millenium.--but what comes after it.

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3 Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,
4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming?

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8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,
15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you,

 

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[jeffweeder]

What if you place the time of Job's change - in the 6th seal?

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Hi Vin
Not sure if i want to approach it in that way,( trying to explain by using Revelation). But yes the theme is the heavens are disintigrating-----or rather disintergrated

After this, the wrath of God will come!

No, its been coming and has come already by the time the heavens are no more;

12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates; and its water was dried up, so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east.

13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs;
14 for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.
15 ("Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.")

so the bowls of the final wrath of God are coming to a climax with the 6th bowl, and Jesus has this written for us to read; a reminder of his promise to come;--
-(Im soon to come and gather you to myself, hang on to what you have.)
The wrath ends with the heavens being no more
, us being changed, and those who have rejected him missing out---as the Spirit of Jesus was not found in them at the time of the ressurection at his appearing.
John explained, when i see him again I shall be like him-for i shall see him as he is-(because he recieved the Spirit, and it was in him ), this is the glorification--,

but those whome is not found the Spirit of Christ are none of his.
When he appears he will either find it in you or he wont.
In a twinkling of an eye this will become evident as when he appears, the ressurection will take place..
and every man will get whats coming to him,

12 "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.

Today if you hear his voice, dont put it off, because tomorrow may not come if today is the last day and the sky suddenly and quickly rolls up like a scroll---and the heavens and time to repent will be no more.
13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Hi HisdaughterJen

You told us there is a second resurrection at the end of the millenium...

Okay, but will there be an just people in it?

! Cor. 15:54 shows us that death is swallowed up in victory at the last trumpet.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, - out blares the sounds of the trumpets...the great tribulation is here.....7th trumpet...the hour of a great earthquake...time to reward, God's wrath is come...death is swallowed up in victory.
Rev. 11:18 = the 6th seal God's wrath is come time

No dead people will ever again rise to victory!

All those at the end of the 1000 years that come out of their graves are doomed to the lake of fire.



You wrote that the first resurrection included Jesus.

Christ you had as the - Firstfruits

Then in Rev. 14 - the 144,000 must be the firstfruits that can't come in to the scene till the church is gathered as the rest of the Jesus - harvest time.

Rev. 14:15
"...to him that sat on the cloud..sickle....time is come...harvest..."

Well, as Terrie alluded to above, it seems that Job is a part of the 1st resurrection.

The 2nd resurrection has a judgment attached to it and doesn't happen until the end of the millenium....remember, there will still be dying/death through the millenium... and then death is destroyed, new heavens, new earth.

 

[Laqachbeforethetrib]

Jesus took Paradise to Heaven.

As to taking Abraham's bosom [Paradise below] occupants of Sheol with Him on high as those who were held captive in the first death, which captivity He led captive at His ascension, the Word declares that those holy saints are perfected in Spirit [the born again, of the Spirit, term] as occupants of Zion above.

When Jesus began to build His Church, which Church is Zion above [of which Zion He is the Firstborn laid, in respect to the second creation of human being sons of God], the gates of hell could not prevent His doing so with those former captives of that prison whom He loosed at His resurrection and ascension.
The Word teaches us this is true -but the Word is not a fast food service, and one does have to read all of it to get the full picture.

 

[Laqachbeforethetrib]

Hi HisdaughterJen

You told us there is a second resurrection at the end of the millenium...

Okay, but will there be an just people in it?

Justified people covered by the Atonement for all in Adam, whose names were not blotted out of the book of Life by their own willfull evil deeds done with understanding while in their bodies. They have no rewards for Glory to their account, but they are covered by the Atonement, which was for all in Adam.

 

[GrandGuignol]

I think many of you are reafing things into the word that arn't really there.

Well we know that there are no wicked ones in the first ressurection--blessed and holy are those who get to partake of this 1st ressurection.
Daniel would have slept to the end of days and partook of the ressurection of gods own, rather than the ressurection of the contempt. DAN 12
Job therefore will partake of the good.

Notice how the word holy is only used in those of the first resurrection time.

Rev. 20
blessed and holy
in the first

those of the second resurrection will rise too late for eternal life

Just because the first resurrection is good doesn't automatically make the second bad.
at the end of Rev. 20:4 it plainly says this is the first resurrection. whats so hard to understand about that.
It also says the rest of the dead will sleep till the thousand years are finished. I don't see how it could have been written any plainer, or why anybody would have trouble understanding?

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever
Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

For some the great judgement will be bad, but for others who's names are written in the book of life it would be a time of victory, wouldn't it?
It seems very simple to understand.

The first resurrection is Pentecost, and the first of firstfruits is in, but the full harvest is still being 'cut' and will be gathered in -in regenerated bodies, to the same place where the firstfruits is- before He cleanses the earth and begins the second crop for the second harvest which is to be after the thousand year reign of His Sabbath Peace; which Sabbath is earth's last day of one thousand years. -Jesus, the Firstfruits, raised firstfruits of the harvest according to the law's oracles about that day, with and in Him, bodily, at His resurrection. They are in heaven in their bodies of regeneration with Him, and we who are born again are part of the first resurrection and have the promise of the bodies of regeneration before the thousand years of His Last Day Sabbath for earth and second resurrection of the dead at the end, when He regenerates the heavens and earth all new by the cleansing fire which dissolves the elements which He re-forms.

What?
I have never seen anything like this in the Bible. It makes me wonder what book you've been reading. All this first fruits, and second fruits, and regeneration. i know why Jesus talked about crops, and fishing. but why would you choose to make up these parables as analogies for the resurrection, and the second coming, when you could post the actual word of God? we could at least see, and know you have some support. as it stands your post is just so much jiberish. having no scriptural support whatsoever.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Just because the first resurrection is good doesn't automatically make the second bad.
at the end of Rev. 20:4 it plainly says this is the first resurrection. whats so hard to understand about that.
It also says the rest of the dead will sleep till the thousand years are finished. I don't see how it could have been written any plainer, or why anybody would have trouble understanding?

From my understanding, spiritual "israel" gets dibs on the first resurrection.
Btw, what are views on Ezekiel 37 "Valley of the Bones" in reference to Revelation?

Ezekiel 37:10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great army. 11 Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They indeed say, 'Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!' [Luke 2/Reve 11/Reve 20]

Luke 2:34 and Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mariam His mother, `Lo, this [one] is set for the Falling and Ressurection/anastasin <386> of many in Israel, and for a Sign spoken against-- [Ezekiel 37 "Valley of the Bones"/Reve 11/20]

Reve 20:5 The rest of the dead-ones not live until should be being finished the thousand years. This the Resurrection/anastasiV <386>, the First.

 

[Laqachbeforethetrib]

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Originally Posted by Laqachbeforethetrib
The first resurrection is Pentecost, and the first of firstfruits is in, but the full harvest is still being 'cut' and will be gathered in -in regenerated bodies, to the same place where the firstfruits is- before He cleanses the earth and begins the second crop for the second harvest which is to be after the thousand year reign of His Sabbath Peace; which Sabbath is earth's last day of one thousand years. -Jesus, the Firstfruits, raised firstfruits of the harvest according to the law's oracles about that day, with and in Him, bodily, at His resurrection. They are in heaven in their bodies of regeneration with Him, and we who are born again are part of the first resurrection and have the promise of the bodies of regeneration before the thousand years of His Last Day Sabbath for earth and second resurrection of the dead at the end, when He regenerates the heavens and earth all new by the cleansing fire which dissolves the elements which He re-forms.

What?
I have never seen anything like this in the Bible. It makes me wonder what book you've been reading. All this first fruits, and second fruits, and regeneration. i know why Jesus talked about crops, and fishing. but why would you choose to make up these parables as analogies for the resurrection, and the second coming, when you could post the actual word of God? we could at least see, and know you have some support. as it stands your post is just so much jiberish. having no scriptural support whatsoever.

Really? You have not read the Bible, then, and have no idea what is written there, when it is referred to? Salvation is of the Jews, and the doctrine of Christ and His finished work is only taught by the Living Oracles committed only to the Jews -His own namesake people of the New Man name, into which name we who are born again are joined, by the adoption, as grafted in branches.

Let me show you something you need to learn His doctrine from before you can be a "teacher" of His Word:
Hebrews 5: 12
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles [the abc's] of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
You'll have to go learn the doctrine of Christ and the restoration of all things from the Schoolmaster, which was given as a Tutor to bring us to Christ.
The Feasts of YHWH [and some of them are fasts] are His "Holy convocations", which Feasts are actual dress rehearsals performed as types and shadows of His final acts of His times and seasons of restoring all things; and when each one is fulfilled totally [which were given only to His own namesake people [called by His New Man name "Israel" -Isaiah 49] to perform, then those feasts will never be celebrated again.
The first harvest of sons of God which will be ingathered to the heavenly temple is called Pentecost, and is ongoing since Jesus ascended as the Son of Man and received the Glory, without measure.

Jesus rose and ascended to the Father on the "First of Firstfruits", to present the First of Firstfruits of earth's harvest of "sons of God" for the Glory of the Father to indwell -which Glory indwelling of the temple of humankind [Haggai 2] is what redemption "back to" is for, and is what Adam lost in the fall].


When He ascended to be seated forty days later, and received the Glory as the Firstborn/Chief/Head of the second race of human kind, taking the seat of earth's spiritual dominion as it's Head, which Adam never got to ascend to as "Adam, son of God" [Luke 3:38; John 3:13] because of the fall -and which spiritual dominion Adam has been cut off from ever since, then He received the Glory without measure, as the Foundation of the second Temple of human kind, on Pentecost, and He sent that foretaste of Glory to His adopted/regenerated sons; and all who are added to His "Church/body by the second birth of Sprit [which is the regeneration of Spirit, given by the Spirit of Adoption[, are part of the first harvest which is to be ingathered to heaven, before the Feasts of YHWH commence.
Today is the Day of Salvation in which the harvest is being worked by the "laborers" which is to be "full come in" before the last harvest is grown.

The last harvest is at Tabernacles, which will be celebrated through the Millennium, for it will not be fulfilled until the millennial reign is ended and earth's final harvest is ingathered.
Atonement was fulfilled at Passover, and will never be done as it was in the shadows and types, again, for that will be a Feast in the Millinnial reign, instead of a fast, celebrating the Atonement/Reconciliation of the Lamb of God as the Final Sacrifice which made an end of the remembrance of Adam's transgression before the Father.

 

[GrandGuignol]

From my understanding, spiritual "israel" gets dibs on the first resurrection.
Btw, what are views on Ezekiel 37 "Valley of the Bones" in reference to Revelation?

Ezekiel 37:10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great army. 11 Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the wholehouse of Israel. They indeed say, 'Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!' [Luke 2/Reve 11/Reve 20]

Israel was scattered in 70AD, their land was taken, their language became a dead language. Then as God predicted, they have been reformed into a nation again.
As if dry bones have grown new flesh. Those bones are the whole nation of Israel. It says plainly they are Israel. we ourselves know they were lost as a nation, and have revived, and now are once again a nation. Gods word was right about that one.

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles [the abc's] of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat

Once again you say alot but give no scripture to back it up. The verse you did post has nothing to do with any resurrection, but only speak of the first principles of the word, which is Christ, and his redemption through our belief.
Gen 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

Paul was speaking to the Jews who were adding more to the plan for salvation. they were teaching new converts that they had to observe the law to obtain salvation. Paul disagreed.