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Byfaithalone1
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OK. Thanks for the clear answer. This is the first moment that I finally knew for certain your position on this subject. Here's hoping for further clarification on the other questions I've asked. For example, do you believe there is a place called "Heaven?"
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Just look through the telescope . . .
For me this question is like asking to whom did God give the understanding of astronomny. God didn't push "ground floor" on the elevator, walk out, whisper the answer in someone's ear, and say, "Pass it on."
I do find it interesting to look at Circaseptan rythms (weekly) and how weekly ritual helps us focus intention and understand our own resting and expressing cycles.
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Why would you equate a sabbath with astronomy?
Would you also equate the passover with astronomy?
Would you also equate the feast of unleavened bread with astronomy?
So do you conclude that the seventh-day sabbath is for all people?
Do you also conclude that the feast of tabernacles is for all people?
Do you also conclude that circumcision is for all people?
Well, I certainly would never want to stand in the way of such a ritual if it holds for you the benefits that you've described. However, do you believe I should also follow such a ritual? If so, why?
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What purpose would that serve? Would you conclude that my evidence is authoritative?
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Now you are resorting to the ridiculous again. You must enjoy it there.
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Not at all. Rather, am simply living in the space that I've been allocated. It is clear that posting Scripture is not a compelling approach in this setting. Why then would I do so? We would first have to agree that the Scriptures can be trusted before this would be a worthwhile endeavor.
Since the basis of my position on this subject is Scripture, I'm a bit confused as to why you'd even want me to explain why I believe as I do.
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The thing is he thinks he is being cute, like those who told Galileo he was contradicting Scripture.
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Hey, could you guys give me the time to grab a bag of popcorn and watch the fireworks lol...
The OP claims that the Saturday Sabbath is a Moral Command and that man "instinctively" knows it's wrong to break it. Perhaps the premise is so preposterous that the thread has moved into the area of Sasquatch and Loch Ness instead of dealing with it.
The OP claims that the Saturday Sabbath is a Moral Command and that man "instinctively" knows it's wrong to break it. Perhaps the premise is so preposterous that the thread has moved into the area of Sasquatch and Loch Ness instead of dealing with it.
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I've yet to understand the difference between a "moral command" and other God-given commands, and I haven't seen a post in this thread that really addresses that point (but I may have missed a post somewhere along the way).
Would a moral command relate to behavior that always goes against the very nature of God? In what way does "work" go against the very nature of God?
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not inappropriate, unrelated......and it seems you didn't catch that an analogy was being used.... passover is a non-issue...
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I'm not sure how other Christian Religions teach the difference but in Catholic Church a moral command isn't subject to change, ever. Natural Law or Moral law would be those laws that a person is commanded by nature to observe, such as honoring your parents, not stealing, murder, etc.
Ceremonial commands are always activated by times and seasons such as observing a certain feast or observance of a Sabbath. Because a person isn't commanded by nature to observe a Sabbath like they are commanded by nature to "not steal" one can be positive that a Sabbath isn't a moral command. It fails on all counts as Adam nor anyone after Adam up to the time of Moses observed a Sabbath while everyone from Adam on knew it was wrong to murder, steal, etc.
Work does not go against the nature of God. In the Genesis account and up to Moses the Sabbath is described as belonging to God. "Tomorrow is a Sabbath to God", etc, etc.
In Jewish understanding Adam and Eve were created and sinned on the 6th day and thrown out of the Garden "prior" to entering the Rest of God. This is not a new understanding it's as old as the book of Lev. This is why Scripture describes the Sabbath as "God's Rest".
Ex 16,23
Ex 16, 25, etc.
In the New Testament Scriptures we are told that the New Heaven and Earth does not have night. Sabbath was ment to be perpetual and our first parents were created in "live in it". This is what Jesus means when He says that we find "Rest" in Him. At least that's my take on it.
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I realize that many here believe that the passover is a non-issue (and I believe that as well). However, I'm trying to understand why one would conclude that the passover is a non-issue and would not also conclude that the seventh-day sabbath is a non-issue. What is the difference in God's eyes between these holy convocations? As I have studied the concept of "sabbath" in the Scriptures, I find no distinction made between them by God. I cannot understand why one would conclude that one type of sabbath is more applicable and enduring than another. Also, I cannot understand why a person would conclude that one jot or tittle will pass from the law until everything has been accomplished. If the passover is a non-issue, the seventh-day sabbath must also be a non-issue. I don't see how one could conclude that one endures and the other does not.
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