The orthodox view of the Incarnation is not a step down and also God never exists in different "forms" in that view either. In addition the Three Persons, One God are not "parts" so one cannot separate God.
Phil 2.6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
God cannot be limited. Jesus is God. Not God lite.
By us - no. But by Himself???
Here is a thought. Why not give the voice of thousands of years of Christianity a vote and say that an Infinite Supreme Being to become a servant of humanity is indeed "emptying" Himself?
Again we should appeal to thousands of years of Christian teaching, not on our own attempts at understanding Scripture.
That may well be a part of it, but it is certainly not the whole.
Taken out of context as it was done here my comment could probably be taken many ways - am not sure how any of the other ways is relevant to this discussion.
No one today, save Mormons I guess might speculate on per-existence forms/bodies, which by definition have limits. Certainly no one in this thread should be understood as suggesting the Son had limits at any time, except those falsely claiming that by becoming Man He is now somehow constrained in His Divinity. So unless one is Mormon or struggling with such ideas (which has Jesus limited "preincarnate" too), there was no need to address that "state". BTW, the idea of "state" in association with God/Divinity is also erroneous.
That creed says the Son is "consubstantial (co-essential} " with the Father, Perfect in His Divinity ("Godhead") and also "consubtantial" with us in His "Manhood". Chalcedonian Creed (A. D. 451) | carm
Jesus is man and all humans have limits. I was speaking of and defending His Divinity, which can have no limits. That is the meaning of His Being God (and not “God lite” or limited)
Glad we’re at least on board with His still having a human body. Not everyone here in CT land agrees.
Probably a lot more than just a “1000s”. At least “2000s”
Sort of why the root of that word is "Protest"+ant. Again in context my comment was to a poster attempting to use Scripture as a rebuttal to my stand on the traditional/orthodox teaching about God, His Nature (One, Inseparable, No Parts, Not Divided...etc, Three Persons, Each God...etc. Incarnation both God and Man so not limited. The same verses have understandings compatible with everything I said which we can find in the recorded writings of Christians, the same writings that gave us the Trinity Doctrine. So it is not like those questions the other poster offered present a challenge to someone accepting all that tradition.
Exactly they are human. Which is why the extended and fuller tradition of all the saints/Saints is better because everyone gets to way in and eventually the human error gets resolved. Even if as already mentioned it occurs by the Spirit through the will of one Bishop against Arianism, a man who risked his life to work against that error.
Again yup, people are people. Doesn't take a genious to figure that out.
Actually the teaching is only three legs. And from an engineering standpoint, that is more stable than four anyway.
Yep. People are people. Yet the Church remains.
