Many Christians today seem to also not recognize the fulfillment of the Son of Man (in Daniel 7) has been completed and that's why I'm insistent on not cutting off our foundational root from our Christian story.Jews, Judaism, believe that the one like the son of man in Daniel 7 who is given a kingdom, is a personification of them, the nation of Israel. They reject that it is Jesus.
God is eternal and has no point of origin. Do you mean that God began dealing with humanity when He created Adam & Eve?God began with Adam and Eve
Jesus said He's already been given that authority. That's the point that I see for God to take on flesh and live among His creation - to demonstrate His love for us AND to demonstrate His power and glory.the Kingdom will come at the 2nd coming; and Christ the King will rule the whole earth for everlasting to everlasting.
I think you are confusing your thoughts. It appears as though really what you are criticizing is the so-called prosperity gospel, but are inappropriately referring to it as the salvation gospel.It is continually done the other way around and for a reason.
Those who have power, wealth, or oppress in the world of man, seeking gain at the expense of others, instead prefer the salvation gospel. The Gospel of the Kingdom had become a stumbling block to them for putting the will of God ahead of their own, thus loving all as self puts a damper on their worldly ways. The gospel of salvation alone (which is only part of the whole) lets them have it both ways, but that is not the will of God, but simply typical human redefinition of good and evil to suit their needs
You're going to get differing opinions on when Christianity began. Somewhere between the annunciation and the day of Pentecost after the crucifixion.
The statement of faith is the Nicene Creed.
No, that is yet another gospel the worldly like to promote to self justify.I think you are confusing your thoughts. It appears as though really what you are criticizing is the so-called prosperity gospel,
Well, you are not talking about the gospel of salvation that is in the bible. The gospel of salvation that is in the bible is the only way a person can inherit the Kingdom of God.I remain firm in what I said about the worldly's own brand of salvation.... rather than putting the will of God before our own, thus loving all as self they prefer another gospel. Those who have power, wealth, or oppress in the world of man prefer the salvation gospel because loving all as self puts an immediate stop to gain at the expense of others along with economic and class divide.
It is only a part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. Leaving out the rest allows those of this world to self justify their greedy and oppressive ways as they refuse to love all a self while claiming their sins are covered. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.The gospel of salvation that is in the bible is the only way a person can inherit the Kingdom of God.
You are too ambiguous, speaking in broad generalities, for me to understand whatever point you are trying to make.It is only a part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. Leaving out the rest allows those of this world to self justify their greedy and oppressive ways as they refuse to love all a self while claiming their sins are covered. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
And sent them out as witnesses to preach the gospel of salvation to the nations. Whatever points you are trying to make, doesn't change that.
Just as Islam is "rooted in' both Judaism and Christianity, and Buddhism is "rooted in' Hinduism. But it would be ridiculous to claim that for this reason we're talking about only two religions.I'm not referring to modern-day Judaism. However, Christianity IS rooted in ancient Judaism.
You seem to be dividing what God has brought together (and missing my point). The mystery of the "one new man" Paul wrote about was the Jews (of ancient Judaism - not today's modern religion) and Gentiles becoming united in Christ. This is what I'm referring to:Just as Islam is "rooted in' both Judaism and Christianity, and Buddhism is "rooted in' Hinduism. But it would be ridiculous to claim that for this reason we're talking about only two religions.
Huh? Are you saying Christianity comes only after the second coming and establishment of his kingdom?God began with Adam and Eve
God then left man for then 2000 years; lets see what they do.
After Noah, God calls Abram out of idolatry " leave your Father and come to a land that I will give you.
The comes the covenant and the promise for the descendants, as numerous as the stars in the sky. now called Abraham.
The Israelites who worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob continue to create problems and be reestablished many times. They are the only chosen people of God in the Old Testament, But God's Word will not return to Him Void. In other words, He Keeps His Promises for His Names sake and the Kingdom will come at the 2nd coming; and Christ the King will rule the whole earth for everlasting to everlasting.
Then the Christians.
I did not mean to say "then the Christian" .. My BadHuh? Are you saying Christianity comes only after the second coming and establishment of his kingdom?
All I was saying is that Christianity is founded on God himself, Jesus Christ, slain from the foundation of the world, our Redemption, and has visibly been a theme since the fall.
Here we have the two groups: "you Gentiles", and [...] "the Jews".Ephesians 2:17-20: He brought [...] peace to you Gentiles who were far away from him, and peace to the Jews who were near.
The key word I used was "continues". I'm not "taking from" anyone.
The key of the problem is that, according to you, the name of Israel suddenly refers to believing Gentiles.I think the confusion is in a lack of recognition that modern-day Judaism is distinct from the ancient religion of the Bible.
In the Bible, "Israel" is used for "the People of God" (you and I have had this discussion already). There were Gentiles brought into the assembly early on - so the common link was that they were following God.Here we have the two groups: "you Gentiles", and [...] "the Jews".
Even if God combines these two into one group, believing Gentiles aren't Israel and Israel aren't Gentiles.
The key of the problem is that, according to you, the name of Israel suddenly refers to believing Gentiles.
And since you say that modern day Judaism is distinct from "the ancient religion ", ... voilá modern day Jews aren't Israel anymore, according to you. So you did take the name from them and gave it to someone else.
And that's the problem.
Israel is part of Jewishness.
Please leave them their identity.
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Yeah, indeed. So you reiterate your claim that ""Israel" always meant "PEOPLE of God".[...] Prior to the New Covenant - faith was always what caused a person to be considered righteous and a citizen of the People of God"you and I have had this discussion already
It says in Acts, I believe, they started calling themselves Christians.When did the Christianity begin?
What is the statement of faith?
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