Michali said:I can no longer be in awe of (what I call) ignorant people, but of people who take their life for granted even though they agree that they are just really lucky. "Just roll with it as long as you have something to roll on". But what if what your rolling for hasn't any worth. Which is living with no purpose.
pudmuddle said:1 in 21 million is nothing compared to the chance ( and yes natural selection depends on chance) of life appearing out of nothing. You're not thinking nearly big enough. Even if you could prove that life on this planet was the result of a series of genetic accidents, which you can't, you still have to explain how the universe, or possible many universes came about. Nothing happens without a first cause.
I don't much believe in luck...
lucaspa said:5. First cause does not have to be deity. There are 4 other hypotheses besides deity that will produce the universe.
Michali said:OOO! OOO!
Let me hear them. Please. (I'm not being sarcastic here.)
Jet Black said:
Plan 9 said:Originally Posted By: obediah001
Hay too, if things evolve: there are single cell life forms but NO 2 cell life forms or thre I understand.
I concur. This drone's cortical array nearly imploded from attempting to make sense of it. Of course, the effect was intensified by earlier "wager" posts.
probably more a case of you not understanding don't worry, most people don't.Michali said:I think the only thing I can see being possible other than the deity one is that the universe has always existed. Or maybe these are the only two I understand.
I think the quantum physics one is also something like I once thought. How far can you "zoom" into matter until you figure out what it really is. What if an atom is just a universe. And our universe is just an atom in a larger universe.
Plan 9 said:In Obediah's defense, people rarely attempt to pull the wool over others' eyes by pretending to be from Thayer, which is indeed a small town in Missouri.
LorentzHA said:That is what I thought! When he said he was from South Central Missouri, I believed him. Everyone else insists troll. I am not convinced. He also mentioned he dropped out of school in the 11th grade. To me that was too much information for him to be a troll. But I am the minority on this issue they claim troll. I was fooled once before so I am believing he's a troll. (Big doubts though).
Michali said:I think the only thing I can see being possible other than the deity one is that the universe has always existed. Or maybe these are the only two I understand.
I think the quantum physics one is also something like I once thought. How far can you "zoom" into matter until you figure out what it really is. What if an atom is just a universe. And our universe is just an atom in a larger universe.
lucaspa said:No Boundary is more complex than simply saying "the universe always existed". That statement is more like Steady State.
You are aware, aren't you, that matter pops into and out of existence in vacuum all the time? These so-called virtual particles last about 10^-20 seconds. But they are real for all that. The types of of virtual particles include photons, electrons, protons, mesons, etc.
Michali said:Where does this matter come from? That's really interesting to me. I thought matter could neither be created nor destroyed. Is this true in most cases except this case?
How did they find that out?
Michali said:No boundary- all I know is the title. I'll look up the rest later.
Where does this matter come from? That's really interesting to me. I thought matter could neither be created nor destroyed. Is this true in most cases except this case?
How did they find that out?
OneLargeToe said:Virtual particles, from what I understand, are created from quantum fluctuations in a vacuum. They pop in as positive and negative pairs and annihilate each other, I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
OneLargeToe said:Virtual particles, from what I understand, are created from quantum fluctuations in a vacuum. They pop in as positive and negative pairs and annihilate each other, I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
How did they find this out? I think the Casimir Effect is a good example of it:
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/15/9/6
lucaspa said:Remember that matter and energy are the same? Well, energy is "borrowed" from the vacuum to make this short lived matter.
Jet Black said:He might be genuine, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck......
Michali said:How is energy borrowed from the vaccum itself? Does it borrow from the walls on the outside of the vaccum? What if there are no walls or anything at all, and there is absolutely no energy in this peice of space? Existence was like this before an effect occured in the cause and effect ladder.