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When did evolution begin?

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Chicken Little

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Yes, without it we wouldn't be having this conversation and all of us would be living in a medieval level existence with poor quality of life and much shorter lives.

So when did you stop studying science in any sort of educational setting?
your kidding right ? .. most of my native ancestors live way over 100 until they were taken off their land and away from those things God gave us and we had been adapted too. clean food, the clean water , now we barely live to 50 with science .
so maybe over your european life styles of dirty cities and filthy food where they lived to maybe 40 is better through science .. mine isn't better from " science " ! and unbridled and unabated immoral scientism will prove to be the fool it is from. just because they got lucky and did a few things right doesn't mean they do everything right!
 
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your kidding right .. most of my native ancestors live way over 100 until they were taken off their land and away from those things God gave us and we had been adapted too. the food, the water now we barely live to 50.
so maybe your life is better through sceince .. mine isn't !

Any evidence for those claims?

Life expectancy in the US is about 78, here in the UK it's 81

Everything in your home is the result of science in one way or another
 
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Any evidence for those claims?

Life expectancy in the US is about 78, here in the UK it's 81

Everything in your home is the result of science in one way or another

in Europe 500 years ago the life spans is said to be about less 50 actually 35 to 40 .. your ancestors stole the land and water put natives on tiny peices of land .. .. you all gained at least 25 years screwing up our water and eating from our soils right ? and we lost 90 - 110 to down about 50 and fill with auto immune diseases from your scientism's treatments of our food , water and our bodies( vaccines ) , and the so called "charity" of commodity lines with white flour and cheese which we can't eat or digest - and bless your hearts you gave us free health care also..

and you attribute that gain of 25+ years you have to science. just because they did the cold hard steal of a computer and a telephone right ? . so maybe you should attribute that to 25 years to the clean water and earth and space of clean air your guys ancestors stole. and that fact that any good science created has been from a moral scientist who believe in a creator and intent on finding him in his creation.
 
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in Europe 500 years ago the life spans is said to be about less 50 actually 35 to 40 .. your ancestors stole the land and water put natives on tiny peices of land .. .. you all gained at least 25 years screwing up our water and eating from our soils right ? and we lost 90 - 110 to down about 50 and fill with auto immune diseases from your scientism's treatments of our food , water and our bodies( vaccines ) - and you attribute that gain you have to science. just because they did the cold hard steal of a computer and a telephone right ? . so maybe you should attribute that to 25 years to the clean water and earth and space of clean air your guys ancestors stole. and that fact that any good science created has been from a moral scientist who believe in a creator and intent on finding him in his creation.

So you're from a native American background? Cool

Can you show me evidence of these really long lifespans?

You do realise the whole point of vaccines is to trigger an immune response?

What is 'good' science? Is your computer good science? What about tv, radio, transport, the engineering that built your house and the science of the materials it's made of? To name a few random ones off the top of my head
 
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Yes, and?

Gravity is a theory, germs are a theory, atoms are a theory. Do I need faith in those? No, of course not as they are supported by huge amounts of evidence and research.

Theory is the highest level is science. You seem to have a problem with the fact that science theories can change. That is the real strength of science, that it can adapt to new evidence and discoveries

It would appear, the real problem is anything that contradicts a certain faith belief.

Anything that does, is the enemy and must be ignored and railed against.
 
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Why would it require faith when there is evidence?

The False Theory of Evolution has facts which back it up....BUT....today's Scientists are operating with only a partial Truth, by FAITH. God tells us that Humans (descendants of Adam) were made on another Earth and therefore could not have possibly evolved from the common ancestor of Apes on this Earth.

Science has falsely classified the sons of God (prehistoric people) as Humans (descendants of Adam) which is Impossible since the Ark arrived only 10k years ago. Here is the FIRST record of Human civilization on this Earth. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html

The Map shows the FIRST Human Farming took place just SW of Lake Van, Turkey where the Ark first appeared in the mountains of Ararat. Evolution doesn't happen SUDDENLY like the arrival of the First Humans did, in the Ark. Amen?
 
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Yep it does.

Remember that list of daily life conveniences you rely on everyday of your life I gave you yesterday?

Guess what made them possible?

It brings to mind a time when i nearly died from a bacterial form of pneumonia. I had gone down to about 80 lbs, and could not eat or drink anything i was so sick. I had been to the Hospital twice, and both times they mis-diagnosed me. I should have died.

you mean this kind of convenience that i take for granted ev'ry day, the doctors who mis-diagnosed me twice?
 
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It brings to mind a time when i nearly died from a bacterial form of pneumonia. I had gone down to about 80 lbs, and could not eat or drink anything i was so sick. I had been to the Hospital twice, and both times they mis-diagnosed me. I should have died.

you mean this kind of convenience that i take for granted ev'ry day, the doctors who mis-diagnosed me twice?

If I were you, I would stay away from any medical professional and hospital then for the rest of your life.

I mean, these people rely on silly theories to treat you. Say a few prayers and hope for the best.
 
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Nevertheless we all gots those limitations, don't we?

^_^

If people want to do nothing about their limitations and stay ignorant in regards to certain topics, that is up to them.

Others, reduce their limitations, by educating themselves. Others, are frightened of what they may discover.
 
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brinny said:
It brings to mind a time when i nearly died from a bacterial form of pneumonia. I had gone down to about 80 lbs, and could not eat or drink anything i was so sick. I had been to the Hospital twice, and both times they mis-diagnosed me. I should have died.

you mean this kind of convenience that i take for granted ev'ry day, the doctors who mis-diagnosed me twice?

If I were you, I would stay away from any medical professional and hospital then for the rest of your life.

I mean, these people rely on silly theories to treat you. Say a few prayers and hope for the best.

Yeah, whatever theories came into play with these medical professionals nearly killed me.

Theories. Not reliable.

I agree.

Would you care to know the rest of the story?
 
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you all worship the works of your own hands. time to get a grip.
So you're from a native American background? Cool

Can you show me evidence of these really long lifespans?

You do realise the whole point of vaccines is to trigger an immune response?

What is 'good' science? Is your computer good science? What about tv, radio, transport, the engineering that built your house and the science of the materials it's made of? To name a few random ones off the top of my head
Ps I live in a metal house on wheels both of which my ancestors invented.. now all the plastic in side of here is all yours. i'll give it too you .

yes ok so knowledge has increased. most of it is wrong..
it is wisdom and common sense that is dead and gone an buried.
 
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If people want to do nothing about their limitations and stay ignorant in regards to certain topics, that is up to them.

Others, reduce their limitations, by educating themselves. Others, are frightened of what they may discover.

Apparently those doctors lacked the necessary education?
 
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