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When ants try to understand a human, they can never get to the anatomy of a human. Similarly Trinity is the same One God humans may not be able to comprehend. The Jews on and off lost connection with God even in the presence of Moses. Jews today don't even uphold the same Pharisaic concepts upheld by Jews back in Jesus' days.

To me, His Trinity marks how close you can get to Him. It's for you to know Him better.
Lol! And who says that the Pharisaic concepts of their times are superior to the ones we hold today? Judging by OUR historical accounts that may not be the case. As for Trinity, it's a doctrine embraced by many, understood by very few and completely absent in pre Christian writings. In other words, a man made construct that relies on the Scripture twisting(as on this very page) and a leave of reason. Not to mention a gigantic oversight on Moses' part. Like forgetting to tell my forefathers that the One Gd is really 3 in 1 deal. Kind of basic, kind of important- just not for Moses.
 
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The video was pointing out differences in two versions of the Quran. If you disagree, state why the video is incorrect.
You see I know the difference which is why I asked if you did research. The Quran is same without the vowels. Vowels were added to help non Arabs read Arabic properly. The difference is in vowels. Its like British English and american English dialect. Original Quran is without vowels so its one. So to help in its reading vowels were added. Without vowels non Arabs can pronounce the Quran properly.
Can you say Yeshua is the only begotten Son of YHWH?
What is your definition of begotten?
That's interesting. Do you mean he split it into two separate halves or so? Did he also put it back together? Where is that written and who are the eye witnesses?
Yes that's true. Read the below link which will give you the account.
The Miracle of the Splitting of the Moon | Questions on Islam
that we must be baptized in Yeshua's name and partake of his body and blood. Do Muslims do that?

On another note, I'm curious to know what the Quran says about the 7th day Sabbath and the dietary laws. I know Muslims don't eat pig, but they eat shellfish (abomination according to Torah) . Why is that?
We believe bible has been changed and not reliable. One example you witnessed that verse which was not supposed to be in bible was added. There are many other examples of addition and removal. You also see incorrect translation to better for ones agenda. Quran is pure word of God, no word of any man!
 
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You see I know the difference which is why I asked if you did research. The Quran is same without the vowels. Vowels were added to help non Arabs read Arabic properly. The difference is in vowels. Its like British English and american English dialect. Original Quran is without vowels so its one. So to help in its reading vowels were added. Without vowels non Arabs can pronounce the Quran properly.
You obviously didn't view the video very closely. At around the 2 minute mark he begins to lay out his argument which points out a consonantal difference in the two Qurans that changes the meaning of the word from "He" to "We". That is not only a textual variant, but it changes the theology of the text as well.

What is your definition of begotten?
The phrase "only begotten" as in John 3:16, which is what I used in my question to you, is from the Greek word μονογενής (monogenēs) meaning;

From Strong's -
only born, that is, sole: - only (begotten, child).​
From Thayer's -
1) single of its kind, only
1a) used of only sons or daughters (viewed in relation to their parents)
1b) used of Christ, denotes the only begotten son of God​
In other words, there is no other person in the world that can be called YHWH's only born Son. Adam was not born. The nation Israel was not born. David is not YHWH's only born son. Believers are sons via adoption. Yeshua is YHWH's Son via being born of a woman without the aid of man (YHWH being his Father). To be more precise, YHWH spoke His Son into existence by His "logos" (spoken words and thoughts - John 1:14) when He caused Mary's egg to be fertilized with the necessary DNA to produce a male child.

Yes that's true. Read the below link which will give you the account.
The Miracle of the Splitting of the Moon | Questions on Islam
I remain a skeptic. Why isn't there any mention of people seeing the moon put back together? Probably because they didn't think out the fairy tale very well. Also, appealing to a crack on the moon today is lame since the moon is loaded with such cracks.

We believe bible has been changed and not reliable. One example you witnessed that verse which was not supposed to be in bible was added. There are many other examples of addition and removal. You also see incorrect translation to better for ones agenda. Quran is pure word of God, no word of any man!
I asked, "YHWH revealed, through the Prophet Yeshua, that we must be baptized in Yeshua's name and partake of his body and blood. Do Muslims do that?" So are you telling me that baptism in Yeshua's name and partaking of his body and blood were added to the Bible? I highly suggest you prove that textually since your eternal life depends on it.

Mark 16:16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. RSV
John 6:53-54 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. RSV​

You didn't answer my other question. "On another note, I'm curious to know what the Quran says about the 7th day Sabbath and the dietary laws. I know Muslims don't eat pig, but they eat shellfish (abomination according to Torah) . Why is that?"
 
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You obviously didn't view the video very closely. At around the 2 minute mark he begins to lay out his argument which points out a consonantal difference in the two Qurans that changes the meaning of the word from "He" to "We". That is not only a textual variant, but it changes the theology of the text as well.
In other words, there is no other person in the world that can be called YHWH's only born Son. Adam was not born. The nation Israel was not born. David is not YHWH's only born son. Believers are sons via adoption. Yeshua is YHWH's Son via being born of a woman without the aid of man (YHWH being his Father). To be more precise, YHWH spoke His Son into existence by His "logos" (spoken words and thoughts - John 1:14) when He caused Mary's egg to be fertilized with the necessary DNA to produce a male child
since Jesus was not born of God that's wrong then. You believe Jesus was not born from God
I remain a skeptic. Why isn't there any mention of people seeing the moon put back together? Probably because they didn't think out the fairy tale very well. Also, appealing to a crack on the moon today is lame since the moon is loaded with such cracks.
Who then witnessed crucifixion of Jesus. Only Bible witnessed! I asked you a question what day and time Jesus was buried after crucifiction and what day and time he was raised from dead?
I asked, "YHWH revealed, through the Prophet Yeshua, that we must be baptized in Yeshua's name and partake of his body and blood. Do Muslims do that?" So are you telling me that baptism in Yeshua's name and partaking of his body and blood were added to the Bible? I highly suggest you prove that textually since your eternal life depends on it
I already proved verses were added. So first you must prove Bible is reliable to quote from it!
You didn't answer my other question. "On another note, I'm curious to know what the Quran says about the 7th day Sabbath and the dietary laws. I know Muslims don't eat pig, but they eat shellfish (abomination according to Torah) . Why is that?"
We do not follow Torah. That's the old law and now its not trustworthy since it's changed too.
 
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No need to give me a video that does not address the issue presented in the video I cited. Why does one Qur'an say, "He will remove" and the other Qur'an say, "We will remove" in Qur'an 2:271?

since Jesus was not born of God that's wrong then. You believe Jesus was not born from God
How did you get that out of what I wrote? I showed you that "monogenes" (only begotten) means "only born". Yeshua is the only born Son of YHWH. All others are born of men.

Who then witnessed crucifixion of Jesus. Only Bible witnessed!
The Bible points out many witnesses of his actual crucifixion. Among them were John and Yeshua's mother Miriam (John 19:25-27). The other gospels say the chief priests, scribes, elders, and Roman soldiers were also witnesses.

I asked you a question what day and time Jesus was buried after crucifiction and what day and time he was raised from dead?
When did you ask me that question? I must have missed it. Yeshua was buried on Abib 14 shortly before the sun set. He resurrected shortly after the sun set beginning Abib 16.

I already proved verses were added. So first you must prove Bible is reliable to quote from it!
You proved verses were added in our English Bibles and in some later Greek texts. You have not proven verses were added in the earliest Greek texts. Over 99% of all Greek texts are in agreement. Agnostic NT critic Bart Ehrman wrote, “In fact, most of the changes found in early Christian manuscripts have nothing to do with theology or ideology. Far and away the most changes are the result of mistakes pure and simple-slips of the pen, accidental omissions, inadvertent additions, misspelled words, blunders of one sort of another” (Misquoting Jesus, 55). For you to discard the entire NT because of a few additions that are obvious and that can easily be corrected is a grave error.

We do not follow Torah. That's the old law and now its not trustworthy since it's changed too.
Torah is the old law? What is the new law? Sharia?

Please show me a verse in the Qur'an that says Torah is the old law and is not trustworthy. As far as I know, the Qur'an upholds Torah as "Allah's Book".
 
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No need to give me a video that does not address the issue presented in the video I cited. Why does one Qur'an say, "He will remove" and the other Qur'an say, "We will remove" in Qur'an 2:271?
It does address what you have said. Translation is either way correct. When someone with high status is speaking, it's usually spoken as 'we' like president speaks as we not 'I'. 'I' is also correct if someone wants to translate that. Its no big deal!
The Bible points out many witnesses of his actual crucifixion. Among them were John and Yeshua's mother Miriam (John 19:25-27). The other gospels say the chief priests, scribes, elders, and Roman soldiers were also witnesses
What's the difference then. Muslim sources say the companions and the pagan Arabs witnessed the splitting and you are quoting Bible. What difference does it make?
When did you ask me that question? I must have missed it. Yeshua was buried on Abib 14 shortly before the sun set. He resurrected shortly after the sun set beginning Abib 16.
Yes it was missed.
So he was buried on Friday evening and rose from dead Sunday morning right?
You proved verses were added in our English Bibles and in some later Greek texts. You have not proven verses were added in the earliest Greek texts. Over 99% of all Greek texts are in agreement. Agnostic NT critic Bart Ehrman wrote, “In fact, most of the changes found in early Christian manuscripts have nothing to do with theology or ideology. Far and away the most changes are the result of mistakes pure and simple-slips of the pen, accidental omissions, inadvertent additions, misspelled words, blunders of one sort of another” (Misquoting Jesus, 55). For you to discard the entire NT because of a few additions that are obvious and that can easily be corrected is a grave error.
What difference does it make? Like English was changed so possibly Greek was also changed.
How are you going to correct it?
Torah is the old law? What is the new law? Sharia?

Please show me a verse in the Qur'an that says Torah is the old law and is not trustworthy. As far as I know, the Qur'an upholds Torah as "Allah's Book".
The Torah you have now is not the original Torah! Let me ask you a question. Does God get tired?
 
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It does address what you have said. Translation is either way correct. When someone with high status is speaking, it's usually spoken as 'we' like president speaks as we not 'I'. 'I' is also correct if someone wants to translate that. Its no big deal!
At what minute mark in the video is that addressed?

What's the difference then. Muslim sources say the companions and the pagan Arabs witnessed the splitting and you are quoting Bible. What difference does it make?
I am not asking you for witnesses to the splitting. I am asking you for witnesses to the rejoining. The Bible not only has witnesses to the crucifixion, but also has witnesses to the resurrection. The Bible has witnesses to the parting of the sea by Moses, but it also has witnesses to the rejoining of the sea. Why are you giving me witnesses to only half the miracle? The splitting of the moon, if true, is a tremendous miracle, but the rejoining of it is also a tremendous miracle. How is it that no one even mentions it?

Yes it was missed.
So he was buried on Friday evening and rose from dead Sunday morning right?
No. He was buried on Friday afternoon and rose on what we call Saturday night (which is really the beginning of the first day of the week. However, don't even bother trying to correct me on this. You have far more serious problems since you don't even believe Yeshua was crucified.

What difference does it make? Like English was changed so possibly Greek was also changed.
How are you going to correct it?
You correct questionable texts by comparing them with other texts. If you have a verse in a Greek text that is not found in any other Greek text, it is undoubtedly dubious and to be rejected. You don't discard all the other Greek texts because one was corrupted and the others might "possibly" be as well.

The Torah you have now is not the original Torah! Let me ask you a question. Does God get tired?
No.
 
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At what minute mark in the video is that addressed?
I think its better you look at below link so we can discuss it:
Quran - Hafs vs Warsh | Muslim Prophets
I am not asking you for witnesses to the splitting. I am asking you for witnesses to the rejoining. The Bible not only has witnesses to the crucifixion, but also has witnesses to the resurrection. The Bible has witnesses to the parting of the sea by Moses, but it also has witnesses to the rejoining of the sea. Why are you giving me witnesses to only half the miracle? The splitting of the moon, if true, is a tremendous miracle, but the rejoining of it is also a tremendous miracle. How is it that no one even mentions it?
The event of split and rejoining happened at the same time.
No. He was buried on Friday afternoon and rose on what we call Saturday night (which is really the beginning of the first day of the week. However, don't even bother trying to correct me on this. You have far more serious problems since you don't even believe Yeshua was crucified
I will tell you why I am asking you think. Now look at the below prophecy:

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man(Jesus) will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Matthew 12:40

How is it 3 days and 3 nights? Its only 3 days and 2 nights(Friday night & Saturday night)!
Bible says:
It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.
Exodus 31:17
 
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I think its better you look at below link so we can discuss it:
Quran - Hafs vs Warsh | Muslim Prophets
Not only does that link NOT answer my question, but it also supplies me with more examples of differences in the Qur'an. I have a problem with many of those differences. I would not normally have a problem with them since our English Bibles have the same problems as well (differences in translations and texts). However, since you claim the Qur'an does not have additions/deletions/differences, but has been perfectly preserved, then I have problems with all those differences.

The event of split and rejoining happened at the same time.
One would think so, but how do you know that? Were there any eye witnesses that said the rejoining happened the same day?

I will tell you why I am asking you think. Now look at the below prophecy:

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man(Jesus) will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Matthew 12:40

How is it 3 days and 3 nights? Its only 3 days and 2 nights(Friday night & Saturday night)!
"Three days and three nights" is a Hebrew idiom meaning three days. An American idiom is, "It is raining cats and dogs" meaning, "It is raining very hard". Yet, not one cat or dog fell from the sky. However, even if I'm wrong and he died on a Wednesday and resurrected three days and three nights later, the FACT remains that he DIED and was RESURRECTED. Can you prove he didn't?

Bible says:
It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.
Exodus 31:17
The Hebrew word translated "rest" is "shabath" meaning to cease, desist. When we cease from work (creating) we automatically rest. It is not a rest because of tiredness, but of ceasing from working.
 
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Not only does that link NOT answer my question, but it also supplies me with more examples of differences in the Qur'an. I have a problem with many of those differences. I would not normally have a problem with them since our English Bibles have the same problems as well (differences in translations and texts). However, since you claim the Qur'an does not have additions/deletions/differences, but has been perfectly preserved, then I have problems with all those differences.
Since you are not getting the point and I cannot help you further.
One would think so, but how do you know that? Were there any eye witnesses that said the rejoining happened the same day?
Looks like the rejoining part is not mentioned but splitting was mentioned and witnessed.
"Three days and three nights" is a Hebrew idiom meaning three days. An American idiom is, "It is raining cats and dogs" meaning, "It is raining very hard". Yet, not one cat or dog fell from the sky. However, even if I'm wrong and he died on a Wednesday and resurrected three days and three nights later, the FACT remains that he DIED and was RESURRECTED. Can you prove he didn't?
Can you prove its an idiom! It could have mentioned 3 days only. Its silly and waste of time to mention 3 nights too.
The Hebrew word translated "rest" is "shabath" meaning to cease, desist. When we cease from work (creating) we automatically rest. It is not a rest because of tiredness, but of ceasing from working.
Of course we rest after work because of tiredness. In this case the word 'refreshed' can only mean after getting tired, God rested and regained his strength
 
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