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[RND]

From the Jesuit/Catholic Douay-Rhymes Bible.

Genesis 3:15

Genesis 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

15 "She shall crush"... Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent's head.

Same verse from the KJV Edition:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

 

[PROPHECYKID]

WRONG WRONG WRONG. How can the woman crush the serpents head. This is a prophecy about Jesus. He shall crush the head of the serpent on the cross

 

[Pythons]

From the Jesuit/Catholic Douay-Rhymes Bible.

Genesis 3:15

Genesis 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

15 "She shall crush"... Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent's head.

Same verse from the KJV Edition:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

I’ve got a Douay-Rheims in front of me opened up to Genesis 3,15. On the bottom of that page is a footnote:

“She shall crush, Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin; others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same; for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head.


“And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and a sign which shall be spoken against; (yeah, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed”. Luke 2, 34

I’ve also got a Tanach on the table, so while we are sorting out discrepancies in translations help me out with this,

“I heard a holy one speaking: and the holy one said to the anonymous one who was speaking, ‘Until when, this vision concerning the daily offering and the mute abomination, allowing the trampling of the holy one and the host? And he said to me, ‘Until nightfall, morning, two thousand and three hundred; and then the holy one will be rectified”. Daniel 8, 13-14 Tanach

“And he said to him, for two thousand and three hundred evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary shall be restored to its rightful state”. Dan 8,14 RSV

“And he said unto me, unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed”. Dan 8,14 KJV.

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[RND]

I’ve got a Douay-Rheims in front of me opened up to Genesis 3,15. On the bottom of that page is a footnote:

“She shall crush, Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin; others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same; for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head.

Yes, this was included in my OP. However, this explanation attempts to state:

"...for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head."

This is a tremendous fallacy. It is Jesus Christ on Golgotha (Place of the skull) that crushes the serpents (dragon, devil, Satan) heads. No woman had a part in this.

“And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and a sign which shall be spoken against; (yeah, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed”. Luke 2, 34

Luk 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this [child] is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

This child, not Mary.

Luk 2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Apparently, Mary was in need of a Savior as well, just like everyone.

I’ve also got a Tanach on the table, so while we are sorting out discrepancies in translations help me out with this,

I'm sorry, the OP is about the changed scripture of Genesis 3:15 by the Jesuit Douay-Rhymes Catholic Bible and not anything you may have a particular discrepancy with. Might I suggest starting a separate thread instead of attempting to commandeer this one?

 

[Pythons]

Yes, this was included in my OP. However, this explanation attempts to state:

"...for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head."

This is a tremendous fallacy. It is Jesus Christ on Golgotha (Place of the skull) that crushes the serpents (dragon, devil, Satan) heads. No woman had a part in this.

What's a fallacy RND?

"I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel".

Who's seed is the deep seated hatred between RND? Who's genealogy back to God does Jesus go through? If you think your post proves Catholicism teaches Mary pulled off the plan of Salvation you have a lot more work to do. Mary's Son, Jesus Christ, who is God Almightly did this.

Luk 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this [child] is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

This child, not Mary.

Luk 2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Apparently, Mary was in need of a Savior as well, just like everyone.

Who's soul will a sword pierce RND? Who ever said Mary wasn't in need of a Savior.

I'm sorry, the OP is about the changed scripture of Genesis 3:15 by the Jesuit Douay-Rhymes Catholic Bible and not anything you may have a particular discrepancy with. Might I suggest starting a separate thread instead of attempting to commandeer this one?

Fair enough, you can count on it.

 

[RND]

What's a fallacy RND?

"I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel".

Stating that: "...for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head."

That's false. The "woman" does not crush the head of the serpent.

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (enmity) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Who's seed is the deep seated hatred between RND?

The great controversy is between Jesus and Satan. Seed in this case is clearly offspring.

Who's genealogy back to God does Jesus go through?

Adam and Eve.

If you think your post proves Catholicism teaches Mary pulled off the plan of Salvation you have a lot more work to do. Mary's Son, Jesus Christ, who is God Almightly did this.

I implied no such a thing. Do you have a 'guilty conscience' that I should know about?

Who's soul will a sword pierce RND?

Mary's.

Who ever said Mary wasn't in need of a Savior.

Point of fact.

Fair enough, you can count on it.

Oh goodie!

 

[Pythons]

Stating that: "...for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head."

That's false. The "woman" does not crush the head of the serpent.

Yes she does, indirectly. Christ is Mary's Son and He directly crushes the head of the serpent. Genesis isn't talking about Seth here RND. Mary was a woman and the Mother of God so "He" refers to Jesus. Why don't you explaine to me what the "serpent's seed" is all about then?

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (enmity) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

"Hatred shall bruise they head"? Come on! "It", directly refers to the children of Eve in the physical sense and in the spiritual and prophetic sense it certainly refers to Jesus and Mary.

The great controversy is between Jesus and Satan. Seed in this case is clearly offspring.

Who is contrasting that?

I implied no such a thing. Do you have a 'guilty conscience' that I should know about?

What is the point of your post if you are not implying it.