What's wrong with racism?

[Ygrene Imref]

I see you are not a Christian of any sort at all. Christians understand that none of us are descendants of God. God does not have descendants. There is the Son, but the Son is also fully God. We are God's children, but all of us are His children by adoption, not descent. Even the Hebrews were not His children by descent.

Likewise, the Hebrews had no supremacy, never. They had a chosen role. They had a chosen and special relationship, but they never had supremacy. The world was not for them (or any nation) to rule. There was a homeland for them, but that did not mean they had supremacy.

Let me clarify some things for you on a basic level, and then you can judge on your own accord whether or not I am a Christian. Don't be fooled by tags on this forum; it means nothing in the long run. You will learn very soon...

The one you call the Son - the Christ and son of the Most High God - whose name is Yahoshua or Joshua (eng,) with the designation of Imanuel, is my Savior who allowed Himself to die, and Resurrected by consequence of His perfection for the remission of sins - for those who repent so that life can be restored back to His people.

If you read my original post, you would have seen that I said humans abdicated their supremacy and God-given dominion. It was God Given among the living creatures.

You must have also missed how incredibly ludicrous I find walking meat sacks actually believing they are dominant over other meat sacks.

I mentioned these things very explicitly in my walls of text. And, I meant exactly what I said. Why did you so vehemently confuse everything I said?

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Things that are real are just the truth; Things that depend on subjective, non-axiomatic parameters are "isms."

Isms do not encompass self-evidence, and continuity (i.e. racISM as known on earth is not the same as racism on Neptune.) And, when people invest in ISMs, it is an anthropological submission to predictive programming meant to create controlled opposition within populations.

It is mind control no matter what side you subscribe. And, most people don't realize they are under a spell. Racism is one of the more ridiculous ISMs, but it makes people feel happy, and allows other to be perceived as innocently ignorant while reaping the rewards of a corrupt system.

 

[JGG]

According to Deuteronomy God judged the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites worthy of death. Heck, he commanded the Israelites, his favorite race, to commit genocide to rid the world of these races.

If anything, the Bible should be our basis for why we should use racism. God likes some races and hates others.

With that being said, what's wrong with racism? Do we have a moral imperative to not act on racism while God Himself does not?

 

[Chesterton]

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[Ygrene Imref]

According to Deuteronomy God judged the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites worthy of death. Heck, he commanded the Israelites, his favorite race, to commit genocide to rid the world of these races.

If anything, the Bible should be our basis for why we should use racism. God likes some races and hates others.

With that being said, what's wrong with racism? Do we have a moral imperative to not act on racism while God Himself does not?

He did that because many of the people of those nations had their genetics polluted by sexual interaction with angels. They ate humans, raped them, experimented on them, and taught others how to do the same thing. It was WAY more than angry god who had a fetish for genocide. That is the thing humanity has put in Him over the centuries because of the assault on truth.

Since the Church removed all books explicitly detailing Genesis 6, of course God seems like He favors genocide for no reason. And I mean race in the real definition.

Until you DEMAND your church organization to reveal and make available the books they by their hand removed and deemed non-canon and inspired, then you will ALWAYS be in darkness about your Father. You, and only you are responsible for the trajectory of your soul.

*you is general here*

 

[RDKirk]

According to Deuteronomy God judged the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites worthy of death. Heck, he commanded the Israelites, his favorite race, to commit genocide to rid the world of these races.

And yet, Bath-Sheba, an ancestor of Jesus, was a Hittite. Rahab, another ancestor of Jesus, was a Canaanite. Ruth, yet another ancestor of Jesus, was a Moabite.

As has already been said, the ancients did not see "race" as a physical characteristic but as a matter of culture--and the Bible clearly indicates that individuals can cross cultures. Both the OT and the NT attest to--and encourage--individuals not born into the culture of believers to cross over into into it in order to be saved (Rahab being the most direct example of that concept in the OT).

"Race" in the modern concept is not culture. It's not at all culture. There are Asian-Americans and even African-Americans, particularly among Millennials, who have nearly nothing of "African" or "Asian" culture. Yet, their race is their race, distinct from the culture they were raised in.

About 15 years ago, my daughter and I were watching a program on BET about "This is African-American culture." As the program concluded, my daughter said to me, "Well, I guess I'm not an African-American." Well, frankly, being a military family that had spent practically all her life in Asia (she had been born in the Philippines) and on military bases, we had never raised her in African-American surroundings. Why should she have been African-American?

Unfortunately, she eventually learned hard, painful lessons about what it means when other Americans presume when you are black in America, regardless of your culture.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Things that are real are just the truth; Things that depend on subjective, non-axiomatic parameters are "isms."

Isms do not encompass self-evidence, and continuity (i.e. racISM as known on earth is not the same as racism on Neptune.) And, when people invest in ISMs, it is an anthropological submission to predictive programming meant to create controlled opposition within populations.

It is mind control no matter what side you subscribe. And, most people don't realize they are under a spell. Racism is one of the more ridiculous ISMs, but it makes people feel happy, and allows other to be perceived as innocently ignorant while reaping the rewards of a corrupt system.

Who exactly is behind this whole "ism mind-control" conspiracy theory that you believe in?

 

[Noxot]

According to Deuteronomy God judged the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites worthy of death. Heck, he commanded the Israelites, his favorite race, to commit genocide to rid the world of these races.

If anything, the Bible should be our basis for why we should use racism. God likes some races and hates others.

With that being said, what's wrong with racism? Do we have a moral imperative to not act on racism while God Himself does not?

only barbaric religious people think that way about God. do some research on the meaning of the names of the people God says to kill and you will see that God was speaking about something inside of people rather than on literal tribes which probably never even existed in the first place and even if they did, God has to use whatever people are like in an attempt to communicate and save people from their ignorance and evils.

the first Christian theologian, origen, long ago explained the meaning of the various tribes we are to put to death.

 

[JGG]

only barbaric religious people think that way about God. do some research on the meaning of the names of the people God says to kill and you will see that God was speaking about something inside of people rather than on literal tribes which probably never even existed in the first place and even if they did, God has to use whatever people are like in an attempt to communicate and save people from their ignorance and evils.

the first Christian theologian, origen, long ago explained the meaning of the various tribes we are to put to death.

Origen is not gospel, but I feel you have missed my point.

God says that the Canaanites (who did exist) all share at least one attribute that makes them worthy to be executed by another race - the Israelites - who all share another attribute which endears them to God.

The moral of the story: racism is good. Even God says that members of a given race share attributes which favor or disfavor them to God. God is the Protoracist.

 

[Noxot]

Origen is not gospel, but I feel you have missed my point.

God says that the Canaanites (who did exist) all share at least one attribute that makes them worthy to be executed by another race - the Israelites - who all share another attribute which endears them to God.

The moral of the story: racism is good. Even God says that members of a given race share attributes which favor or disfavor them to God. God is the Protoracist.

yes they were very similar to how many Muslims are but that does not mean that they knew God or that Gods nature is evil. it does call for either a rejection of this God or for a better understanding of how God reveals himself in our reality.

 

[JGG]

yes they were very similar to how many Muslims are but that does not mean that they knew God or that Gods nature is evil. it does call for either a rejection of this God or for a better understanding of how God reveals himself in our reality.

You're still missing my point (although making it for me). What I'm saying is that because God is racist, that racism is not only permissible, but divine.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Origen is not gospel, but I feel you have missed my point.

God says that the Canaanites (who did exist) all share at least one attribute that makes them worthy to be executed by another race - the Israelites - who all share another attribute which endears them to God.

The moral of the story: racism is good. Even God says that members of a given race share attributes which favor or disfavor them to God. God is the Protoracist.

Racism is an ISM - and, is it not good (like sexism, imperialism, etc.) because it is based on a false sense of superiority, and uses this false superiority to exploit and subjugate other people that are categorized as "lesser". There is no god contributing to racism, as it were. No human in this state is superior to another.

If you are a race of people who were born from the Most High God, it is consequential that those entities would be superior to others in their same kind. This shouldn't be hard to see.

What the Israelites did was not racism; the Canaanites especially were murderous rapists who delighted in smashing babies for sacrifices and teaching the Hebrews similar abominations. They also had genetic pollution - even down to the animals. It wasn't like God said one day, "I needa kill up a buncha Canaanites!"

They had been terrorizing His people for a while - unrestricted in their murder and corruption of Hebrew women, men and children. If you can, you kill cancer before it becomes inoperable. When that does happen ("inoperability,") you get the parable of the wheat and tares - where it is profitable to let evil grow to fruition, then slay.

The "genocide" in the bible is actually very complex and layered, and the canon may not do it justice (although there is enough info to gauge what was going on, and why it was justified.)

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Who exactly is behind this whole "ism mind-control" conspiracy theory that you believe in?

"Isms" are anthropological, not conspiracy.

 

[loveofourlord]

But it's more than just skin. It's ethnicity and culture. What if one race, skin, and culture really is better than all the rest?

Culture perhaps, but culture isn't really connected in many cases to race, and you have many sub cultures, how many different white cultures are there, how many arab, asian and such. And I don't even think

But even then it depends on what your goals are, asian culture in many cases tends to be about the whole, many white cultures tend to be individualistic and such. I think at best you could say these cultures are better then those.

Race and skin arn't connected all the time, and many stereotypes about races and such are false.

 

[loveofourlord]

one problem with racism is it's connected mostly to things that are superficial, "Oh she's got black skin she's black." even if she's got 75% white genes, or she's white so she's good, even if most of her heritage is black, both cases it's just a result of her genetics creating the appearance of being one race or another. Like that race supremecist a few years back whose 23 and me showed him having alot of black heritage, or black woman that find out they have alot of european heritage even though they are darker coloured.

 

[loveofourlord]

Both are determined by genetics.

False, diet of the child and mother among other things, hve more to do with intelligence then makeup.

 

[loveofourlord]

lol, wut???



Not today. Today, it is wel understood that "race" is biologically determined and that you can't "change" your race.


You can easily prove it to yourself.

Consider this picture:

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One of the humans in this picture is of a different race then the others.
Can you tell wich?

really? What if that white looking girl comes from a heritage that is mostly black, just enough white there for genetics to make her look white, by your idea she's white they are black. Except genetics has shown thats not reality.

 

[Ana the Ist]

"Isms" are anthropological, not conspiracy.

Lol conspiracy is anthropological...


Your whole post claimed that there's some shadowy group using "isms" for mind-controlling the brainless masses...I'm just asking who you think is using these isms as mind-control and why?

You can deny its a conspiracy theory all you want....it doesn't matter to me. A rose by any other name...

 

[DogmaHunter]

really? What if that white looking girl comes from a heritage that is mostly black, just enough white there for genetics to make her look white, by your idea she's white they are black. Except genetics has shown thats not reality.

You're arguing, but you're making my point.
You're pointing to the underlying genetics.

Exactly.

 

[loveofourlord]

You're arguing, but you're making my point.
You're pointing to the underlying genetics.

Exactly.

my point is, the racist would look at the white woman and say she's superior and white, the genecist would look at her and say, she's more african then white, racism isn't about genetics, it's how someone looks is my point. Just as that white supremecist that found out he had alot of african genes. Racism is 90% about superficial things on the surface and try to then project that into meaning something more.

The problem is race is mostly superficial, it's looks and such things like intelligence and such have far bigger factors such as nutrition and such then genetics.