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[Jenniferdiana]

Has this ever happen to you? I dont know why i am posting this on here, perhaps i should have gone to an eye forum, but anyway throughout my life i had this weird eye thing where they would fixate on certains words and numbers. Like if im just standing in the kitchen or bathroom..my eyes would fixate on objects with words on them, like this morning when i was in the mirror washing my face i felt really unattractive and then all of sudden my eyes would involuntary move and fixate on an object that had the word beautiful on it..my eyes fixated on the word beautiful..my eyes usually fixate on words or things around me...i dont get it..it happens a lot..though..do you think its just me or what? Lol

 

[Emli]

Has this ever happen to you? I dont know why i am posting this on here, perhaps i should have gone to an eye forum, but anyway throughout my life i had this weird eye thing where they would fixate on certains words and numbers. Like if im just standing in the kitchen or bathroom..my eyes would fixate on objects with words on them, like this morning when i was in the mirror washing my face i felt really unattractive and then all of sudden my eyes would involuntary move and fixate on an object that had the word beautiful on it..my eyes fixated on the word beautiful..my eyes usually fixate on words or things around me...i dont get it..it happens a lot..though..do you think its just me or what? Lol

This could be God, and it could be satan, or it could be just your mind. I am like this too. I think many people are. I used to have severe OCD where my eyes would count everything around me too, and I think that was just a way this part of me reacted to being nervous and afraid all the time. But as I grew in Christ, I noticed that the Lord has increasingly been using it to teach me, and that the enemy has been using it to distract me and mislead me.

Sometimes, my eyes fixate on a number, and I feel the Holy Spirit of God telling me to look up the number in Scripture, and it's a verse to encourage me or teach me something at that moment. Sometimes I would see a sentence on a package or a newspaper or something like that, and I know it's from God, because I feel deep confirmation. Things like that.
And sometimes I've felt the enemy copy it, but it feels different, like compulsion, and I feel deep fear if I reject it. Or it's a deep aha!-feeling and excitement (false light) that doesn't come from the Holy Spirit. Then I know it's the enemy.
Or sometimes it just makes no sense, and I realize I'm just looking for signs because I'm not properly seeking the Lord in Spirit and in Truth.

I think that this is where either God or satan quickens our spirits to see something, and it could also just be our imaginations. Ask the Lord to give you discernment to test the spirits, and to open your eyes to see the world through His eyes not yours. How did the word beautiful make you feel? Like less worthless (God encouraging you and removing self-condemnation) or beautiful and attractive in a sexual way (satan or the flesh getting you to focus on your looks)?

 

[Doug Melven]

Jesus said my sheep hear My voice and I know them.
We can definitely know His voice.
I would definitely say that was God encouraging you with the word "Beautiful".
Satan's tactics don't change, he is condemning.

 

[Emli]

Jesus said my sheep hear My voice and I know them.
We can definitely know His voice.
I would definitely say that was God encouraging you with the word "Beautiful".
Satan's tactics don't change, he is condemning.

Satan tactics isn't always too condemn, he also tempts to sin, and to make us feel pride. Remember that he is not just the accuser, but the deceiver and the tempter. He can lead us astray in so many more ways that to give us negative feelings. 2 Corinthians 11:14
He can appear as a beautiful angel of light, and he has deceived many to think that he is God or a Holy angel when he appears, and not just in a voice, a feeling or a manifestations, and he makes us feel special from head to toe. And this could also be very small things, like notions or distractions, or giving us a very good feeling about something that God thinks of as sin. Genesis 3:1-6 1 John 2:16

Test every spirit, and test it against Scripture, not just against your own feelings.

 

[amariselle]

I would urge caution with "signs" like this. As human beings we do often seek after signs, however, in Scripture Jesus clearly and adamantly condemned seeking after signs.

Unfortunately, thanks to the "signs and wonders movement" (and the NAR), chasing after signs, coincidences, emotional experiences etc., has all too often become the norm within Christianity. In many such churches sound doctrine has been put aside and even completely discarded in favour of experiences and "encounters".

We need to "test the spirits" and seek discernment. Satan is a great deceiver, he doesn't always look like our idea of "evil." I truly believe that God doesn't want us to focus on ourselves, and that we must be looking to Him. Unfortunately many churches today don't teach truth, instead they focus on motivational speeches and telling people how wonderful they are. (And we can all struggle with pride, we really don't need any help with being more prideful.)

Rather, we should die to self, and we should instead fix our eyes on Jesus, thinking of ourselves less and of Him more, and of others and how we can share the Gospel and help those around us.

Remember, scripture warns that Satan "masquerades as an angel of light." He doesn't always look dark and sinister.

We need God's word and sound doctrine now more than ever. We live in very deceptive times, which the Scriptures clearly warn about in the "last days."

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. - 2 Timothy 3:1-5

 

[Emli]

I would urge caution with "signs" like this. As human beings we do often seek after signs, however, in Scripture Jesus clearly and adamantly condemned seeking after signs.

Unfortunately, thanks to the "signs and wonders movement" (and the NAR), chasing after signs, coincidences, emotional experiences etc., has all too often become the norm within Christianity. In many such churches sound doctrine has been put aside and even completely discarded in favour of experiences and "encounters".

We need to "test the spirits" and seek discernment. Satan is a great deceiver, he doesn't always look like our idea of "evil." I truly believe that God doesn't want us to focus on ourselves, and that we must be looking to Him. Unfortunately many churches today don't teach truth, instead they focus on motivational speeches and telling people how wonderful they are. (And we can all struggle with pride, we really don't need any help with being more prideful.)

Rather, we should die to self, and we should instead fix our eyes on Jesus, thinking of ourselves less and of Him more, and of others and how we can share the Gospel and help those around us.

Remember, scripture warns that Satan "masquerades as an angel of light." He doesn't always look dark and sinister.

We need God's word and sound doctrine now more than ever. We live in very deceptive times, which the Scriptures clearly warn about in the "last days."

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. - 2 Timothy 3:1-5

Very well spoken.

I just wanted to share some things. I have a really messed up and evil past in witchcraft and new age, with lots of supernatural experiences, and when I first became saved, the Lord spoke to me "whatever you experienced in the past was not from me". And I've held on to that, and I really needed to hear that. I've since had so much false light surrounding me, and I always know it's not God, but it can be so overwhelmingly convincing, I've been close to believing in it. I've given into it during times of depression, due to lack of strength, knowing they were evil spirits, and ended up having had to cast them out. But not before experiencing them pretending to be the Holy Spirit. It's madness, but they flee when hearing Truth and the name of Jesus. I'm not gonna go into a lot of detail in this one post, but the devil has been doing very much to deceive me in the last three years. Which is why I had to learn how to test everything thoroughly.

This might sound nuts, but I'm gonna share it anyway.
Satan once appeared to me as Jesus, walked around me and spoke to me. I couldn't see him physically, but I saw it as in a vision "in the spirit" and I felt him moving around me. Had God not warned me just a few seconds before it (He made my eyes focus on the number 666 on something in my room, to let me know something was up, so this type of gift is definitely real) I would have believed it. He would have deceived me completely, because he appeared to me in the spirit just like Jesus looks in the movies. But he didn't at all feel like the real Jesus, but none of that matters when it feel so good and shiny, it's like the mind goes blank, it's so beautiful and calming, soothes your whole body. I told him I didn't believe he was Jesus (it's not the first time I've talked to him, unfortunately, and not the first time he has pretended to be God), and so he started asking me things like "are you sure it hasn't been me all along leading you, and not the real Jesus?" and I started getting so confused. But God quickened my spirit, and I said to him that I know it has been the True Jesus Christ leading me, because I believe in Him and I know Him from His Word, and I live my life according to it, and have the fruit to show it. And then satan said some other things which I don't remember, nonsense without a doubt, and left. And I was left with much confusion, but assuredness of my faith, and a deep knowledge that the Lord isn't letting me become led astray, because I know Truth. I was shook up and confused after, but I realized the full extent of just how deceptive satan is, and how careful the Church must become, and how deeply important it is to live according to His Word.

I could share a lot more, and I will in the future, but let this be a warning for everyone. Not everything is what it looks like.

I also want to add, that yes, seeking signs is bad, and it is extremely dangerous, but if you seek God, you will eventually start to see Him in everything, His glory in all of Creation, and He can choose to speak to you through just about anything (and confirm it from His Word and the Holy Spirit). I wouldn't be even a little surprised if a donkey came up and rebuked me one day. I'm just saying, don't limit the Lord, because He can choose to communicate in any way He chooses, especially if you are heading in the wrong direction. If we really lay our lives in His hands, He might get creative, just like He does both in the OT and the NT, and He also tells us He will speak to us through visions and dreams, and prophecy, BUT He still wants us to test everything, and even test what we perceive is the Holy Spirit, so we don't get deceived. It won't offend Him, in fact, it will please Him.

 

[amariselle]

Very well spoken.

I just wanted to share some things. I have a really messed up and evil past in witchcraft and new age, with lots of supernatural experiences, and when I first became saved, the Lord spoke to me "whatever you experienced in the past was not from me". And I've held on to that, and I really needed to hear that. I've since had so much false light surrounding me, and I always know it's not God, but it can be so overwhelmingly convincing, I've been close to believing in it. I've given into it during times of depression, due to lack of strength, knowing they were evil spirits, and ended up having had to cast them out. But not before experiencing them pretending to be the Holy Spirit. It's madness, but they flee when hearing Truth and the name of Jesus. I'm not gonna go into a lot of detail in this one post, but the devil has been doing very much to deceive me in the last three years. Which is why I had to learn how to test everything thoroughly.

This might sound nuts, but I'm gonna share it anyway.
Satan once appeared to me as Jesus, walked around me and spoke to me. I couldn't see him physically, but I saw it as in a vision "in the spirit" and I felt him moving around me. Had God not warned me just a few seconds before it (He made my eyes focus on the number 666 on something in my room, to let me know something was up, so this type of gift is definitely real) I would have believed it. He would have deceived me completely, because he appeared to me in the spirit just like Jesus looks in the movies. But he didn't at all feel like the real Jesus, but none of that matters when it feel so good and shiny, it's like the mind goes blank, it's so beautiful and calming, soothes your whole body. I told him I didn't believe he was Jesus (it's not the first time I've talked to him, unfortunately, and not the first time he has pretended to be God), and so he started asking me things like "are you sure it hasn't been me all along leading you, and not the real Jesus?" and I started getting so confused. But God quickened my spirit, and I said to him that I know it has been the True Jesus Christ leading me, because I believe in Him and I know Him from His Word, and I live my life according to it, and have the fruit to show it. And then satan said some other things which I don't remember, nonsense without a doubt, and left. And I was left with much confusion, but assuredness of my faith, and a deep knowledge that the Lord isn't letting me become led astray, because I know Truth. I was shook up and confused after, but I realized the full extent of just how deceptive satan is, and how careful the Church must become, and how deeply important it is to live according to His Word.

I could share a lot more, and I will in the future, but let this be a warning for everyone. Not everything is what it looks like.

I also want to add, that yes, seeking signs is bad, and it is extremely dangerous, but if you seek God, you will eventually start to see Him in everything, His glory in all of Creation, and He can choose to speak to you through just about anything (and confirm it from His Word and the Holy Spirit). I wouldn't be even a little surprised if a donkey came up and rebuked me one day. I'm just saying, don't limit the Lord, because He can choose to communicate in any way He chooses, especially if you are heading in the wrong direction. If we really lay our lives in His hands, He might get creative, just like He does both in the OT and the NT, and He also tells us He will speak to us through visions and dreams, and prophecy, BUT He still wants us to test everything, and even test what we perceive is the Holy Spirit, so we don't get deceived. It won't offend Him, in fact, it will please Him.

I am very thankful that you have been granted such discernment, and thanks be to God for it.

Indeed, I agree that we should not limit God, but we must remember that holding fast to His word and testing all things is not limiting Him in anyway. He has given us His word for that reason, that we may know Him. Without His word we would know absolutely nothing specific about Him, and nothing of our Saviour Jesus Christ (Who is Himself God) and the Gospel of our salvation.

Unfortunately, within Christianity today, there is a growing focus on the "new" things God is doing, the "now" words from God, given by so called modern day "prophets and apostles." Many of these people and those who follow them actually diminish or discard the word of God and accuse those who search the Scriptures and test all things of having a "pharisaical" or "religious spirit." Much of this has ultimately also led to a kind of elitism and pride within Christianity, where certain teachers and preachers are considered to be more "annointed" of God than the majority of Christians, because they have "more" of the Holy Spirit and greater impartation from Him. Therefore, Christians are told they must place themselves under the authority and leadership of these "elite" leaders, "prophets" and "apostles", in order to receive "impartations", annointings, revelations/"words of knowledge" from them, because, after all, they are somehow closer to God than the rest of us Christians. Paul dealt with this erroneous and dangerous elevation of leaders even in the early Church, and he was correcting believers for doing so.

We do live in a time where we have many celebrity teachers and preachers, and that can be very dangerous. It leads people to become unwilling to question what such teachers say or do and to become quite offended and even angry when someone else dares to question them. (Common response, "touch not God's anointed." - a complete misapplication and misinterpretation of Scripture).

We all must remember that the Bible is God's inspired word, it is not a "box" and those who search the Scriptures and seek discernment and guidance are not limiting the very God who gave us His word in the first place. And everyone is subject to God's word, no matter how famous or well-liked they are as Christian leaders. We must remember the very real spiritual battle we are in. Satan is the father of lies and absolutely expert at mixing truth and error so as to make it seem very convincing.

 

[Jenniferdiana]

Im not going to lie sometimes i do seek for signs but its really not seeking signs..its seeking God..im sure everybody has atleast searched for a sign in thier life..but it. just happens a lot..its weird.that it happens a lot and the way it does when it happen....so i was just wondering why my eyes does that all the time...and wanted to see if it happens to anyone else...unless i have some strange psychological disorder

 

[amariselle]

Im not going to lie sometimes i do seek for signs but its really not seeking signs..its seeking God..im sure everybody has atleast searched for a sign in thier life..but it. just happens a lot..its weird.that it happens a lot and the way it does when it happen....so i was just wondering why my eyes does that all the time...and wanted to see if it happens to anyone else...unless i have some strange psychological disorder

Obviously I cannot speak to your specific situation in regard to any "disorder", though I do believe that neurological disorders are a very real health issue for many. I myself have an anxiety disorder that I have dealt with my entire life and have been on medication for for about 10 years now, thankfully it has helped.

The brain is a physical organ, made up of cells and chemicals (like any other organ) and it is very complex. I do believe that it is important to understand that it can malfunction just like any other bodily organ. That being said, psychology is a vast and often very vague field, and I do believe that the spiritual can often be mixed with the physical.

As to searching for signs, yes, I think most people have done so in some way at some time. Even just asking God to show a specific Bible verse for a specific situation. We do need to be very careful.

Sometimes things can seem coincidental and like they have some hidden or deeper meaning, when they don't. We simply must pray and seek guidance and discernment in these things, because our own imaginations can trick us, or Satan can use such things (even if they seem good) to deceive us.

 

[Jenniferdiana]

Yeah i agree but its just strange. Because this has been happening throughout my life..i mean if this happens all the time..i know theres something wrong because it wouldnt happen all the time..sometimes they are uplifting words .and some of them are even condemning..It happens everywhere ...so i couldnt help but wonder.. maybe its just me....haha

 

[Jenniferdiana]

This could be God, and it could be satan, or it could be just your mind. I am like this too. I think many people are. I used to have severe OCD where my eyes would count everything around me too, and I think that was just a way this part of me reacted to being nervous and afraid all the time. But as I grew in Christ, I noticed that the Lord has increasingly been using it to teach me, and that the enemy has been using it to distract me and mislead me.

Sometimes, my eyes fixate on a number, and I feel the Holy Spirit of God telling me to look up the number in Scripture, and it's a verse to encourage me or teach me something at that moment. Sometimes I would see a sentence on a package or a newspaper or something like that, and I know it's from God, because I feel deep confirmation. Things like that.
And sometimes I've felt the enemy copy it, but it feels different, like compulsion, and I feel deep fear if I reject it. Or it's a deep aha!-feeling and excitement (false light) that doesn't come from the Holy Spirit. Then I know it's the enemy.
Or sometimes it just makes no sense, and I realize I'm just looking for signs because I'm not properly seeking the Lord in Spirit and in Truth.

I think that this is where either God or satan quickens our spirits to see something, and it could also just be our imaginations. Ask the Lord to give you discernment to test the spirits, and to open your eyes to see the world through His eyes not yours. How did the word beautiful make you feel? Like less worthless (God encouraging you and removing self-condemnation) or beautiful and attractive in a sexual way (satan or the flesh getting you to focus on your looks)?

It didnt make me feel any different..it just made me feel a little strange because it happens a lot and was tired of wondering why it happens..i mean if its my imagination..that still makes me feel strange because my eyes fixated on the word beautiful and i really felt ugly at the moment and my eyes being fixated on the word beautiful is such a concidence..like one time i was in my bedroom and i felt unloved at the time and my eyes fixated on a teddy bear that had the word i love you on it..my eyes fixated on the words i love you ...i just think its strange...it happen once when i read my bible..i would get a very strong feeling when my eyes fixate...ill just ignore it...

 

[Emli]

I am very thankful that you have been granted such discernment, and thanks be to God for it.

Indeed, I agree that we should not limit God, but we must remember that holding fast to His word and testing all things is not limiting Him in anyway. He has given us His word for that reason, that we may know Him. Without His word we would know absolutely nothing specific about Him, and nothing of our Saviour Jesus Christ (Who is Himself God) and the Gospel of our salvation.

Unfortunately, within Christianity today, there is a growing focus on the "new" things God is doing, the "now" words from God, given by so called modern day "prophets and apostles." Many of these people and those who follow them actually diminish or discard the word of God and accuse those who search the Scriptures and test all things of having a "pharisaical" or "religious spirit." Much of this has ultimately also led to a kind of elitism and pride within Christianity, where certain teachers and preachers are considered to be more "annointed" of God than the majority of Christians, because they have "more" of the Holy Spirit and greater impartation from Him. Therefore, Christians are told they must place themselves under the authority and leadership of these "elite" leaders, "prophets" and "apostles", in order to receive "impartations", annointings, revelations/"words of knowledge" from them, because, after all, they are somehow closer to God than the rest of us Christians. Paul dealt with this erroneous and dangerous elevation of leaders even in the early Church, and he was correcting believers for doing so.

We do live in a time where we have many celebrity teachers and preachers, and that can be very dangerous. It leads people to become unwilling to question what such teachers say or do and to become quite offended and even angry when someone else dares to question them. (Common response, "touch not God's anointed." - a complete misapplication and misinterpretation of Scripture).

We all must remember that the Bible is God's inspired word, it is not a "box" and those who search the Scriptures and seek discernment and guidance are not limiting the very God who gave us His word in the first place. And everyone is subject to God's word, no matter how famous or well-liked they are as Christian leaders. We must remember the very real spiritual battle we are in. Satan is the father of lies and absolutely expert at mixing truth and error so as to make it seem very convincing.

Yes, God has definitely given me a true gift of discerning of spirits, and He has been developing it by allowing some attacks. It hasn't been fun, but it has been very valuable.

I haven't really run into anyone like that in my life yet. I live in Sweden, I've been a Christian for less than three years, and I haven't been to church yet, because I haven't found a good one. I know other Christians though, but they are true to the Word. We have other problems in the churches over here, and especially in the Church of Sweden, as you may have heard of. But I have seen and read a lot about the false Christianity in America, and the Lord has explained a little to me about the false "Holy Spirits" that they believe to be God.

And I agree, that sounds bad, but I think there is a lot of generalization in it as well.
It sounds to me like a lot of spiritual pride, such as there is in false religions everywhere, with special "oracles" or a hierarchy of leaders. The gifts are there to edify the Church, and not ourselves. We all have the same Holy Spirit.

But I do believe that we have different assignments in the Church, as the Word tells us, some teachers, some prophets etc, and we all have different work to do for God, that He has prepared for us. And different amount of faith, and different amount of talents. There are weaker brothers and stronger brothers, and that's depending on where we are in our walks with God, and the amount of faith the Lord has given to us. I am very strong in my walk with God, and very close to Christ, all to His glory. I know Him, but that's because I have more of His Truth in my heart and mind, and my faith is stronger than most, because that is what He has given me, but I would never raise myself above others, God wouldn't allow that. Rather, since I'm close to Jesus, I should be a servant of everyone, just like Him. How else could I serve the Lord in Spirit and in Truth? No one has special authority in the Church, we all follow the Lord, who is the head of the Body of Christ. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. Romans 12:3

Though I must add, I have seen a lot of people on these forums, and everywhere else on the Internet, tearing others apart for simply talking about God, about their gifts, their experiences etc, and the Lord has revealed to me that some people are too offended by the false churches, that they immediately turn against almost all of God's glory and power, because they don't really see His Truth. I myself have been attacked for it may times, and aggressively so. Not all of it is fake, and I believe that there is a lot of generalization today, where everyone who believes in gifts are condemned as a false teacher/false Christian. Satan is causing rifts in the Church today over this. And I would like to add, evil spirits are behind these aggressive people as well, and I do believe that there is such a thing as a "Pharisaical spirit", because Jesus called them a "brood of vipers" and "children of the devil", and they snap at and condemn people for the slightest things, and even when it's 100% Biblical, because it goes against some doctrine (whether of demons or of man) that they believe in. We have to test all spirits, not just those who offend us and our personal faith, and not criticize what we cannot understand.

I'm not directing any of this at you personally at all. It's simple a comment, because I found the subject interesting.

 

[Emli]

It didnt make me feel any different..it just made me feel a little strange because it happens a lot and was tired of wondering why it happens..i mean if its my imagination..that still makes me feel strange because my eyes fixated on the word beautiful and i really felt ugly at the moment and my eyes being fixated on the word beautiful is such a concidence..like one time i was in my bedroom and i felt unloved at the time and my eyes fixated on a teddy bear that had the word i love you on it..my eyes fixated on the words i love you ...i just think its strange...it happen once when i read my bible..i would get a very strong feeling when my eyes fixate...ill just ignore it...

God has spoken to me just like this in the past, and especially when I've been going through really tough times, and when I was new to the faith. And it was always Biblical.

And then I started putting too much weight into it, and lost my way a little while. I once followed some signs, a few months after I found Christ and I barely even understood anything yet, and I ended up on some nudist/hippie beach thinking God wanted me to go there. The weather turned bad and stormy, and I looked for signs in the sky... Then I asked the Lord to tell me if it was Him doing it. I looked up at the sky and saw cloud formations as an angel of light, and I thought "Wow, an angel! Well, that's a definite sign from God that it's Him doing it" That sign really did come from God, but it didn't mean what I thought.

Be careful. If it doesn't speak to you Biblically, it's not of God. Ask the Lord to reveal to you whether it's Him speaking or not, and study Scripture to get a good foundation.

 

[Jenniferdiana]

God has spoken to me just like this in the past, and especially when I've been going through really tough times, and when I was new to the faith. And it was always Biblical.

And then I started putting too much weight into it, and lost my way a little while. I once followed some signs, a few months after I found Christ and I barely even understood anything yet, and I ended up on some nudist/hippie beach thinking God wanted me to go there. The weather turned bad and stormy, and I looked for signs in the sky... Then I asked the Lord to tell me if it was Him doing it. I looked up at the sky and saw cloud formations as an angel of light, and I thought "Wow, an angel! Well, that's a definite sign from God that it's Him doing it" That sign really did come from God, but it didn't mean what I thought.

Be careful. If it doesn't speak to you Biblically, it's not of God. Ask the Lord to reveal to you whether it's Him speaking or not, and study Scripture to get a good foundation.

I guess...im not following this though ..it happens on its own...

 

[Jenniferdiana]

Maybe i have a mental illness

 

[Emli]

I guess...im not following this though ..it happens on its own...

That's true of most things. We have very little control over our own bodies and minds, and evil spirits also are not under our own control. I didn't choose to see signs back then, but I was seeking them without knowing it, and perceived them as coming to me from somewhere else. I truly was seeking God in my heart, but I didn't yet know how. I should have been seeking God from His Word, but instead I sought Him in created things. My mind wasn't yet focused on Scripture. And God can definitely use that, and He has for me, but He will always, always, always point us to the Bible and to Jesus, and not towards ourselves or anything else. He started fixing my eyes on crosses for a long time, cross-shaped things in nature and everywhere, to get me to focus on Him, because I had evil spirits doing everything they could to lead me away from Jesus Christ.
So that's how you know whether it's of God or not. Does it point you towards a crucified Christ?

 

[Jenniferdiana]

That's true of most things. We have very little control over our own bodies and minds, and evil spirits also are not under our own control. I didn't choose to see signs back then, but I was seeking them without knowing it, and perceived them as coming to me from somewhere else. I truly was seeking God in my heart, but I didn't yet know how. I should have been seeking God from His Word, but instead I sought Him in created things. My mind wasn't yet focused on Scripture. And God can definitely use that, and He has for me, but He will always, always, always point us to the Bible and to Jesus, and not towards ourselves or anything else. He started fixing my eyes on crosses for a long time, cross-shaped things in nature and everywhere, to get me to focus on Him, because I had evil spirits doing everything they could to lead me away from Jesus Christ.
So that's how you know whether it's of God or not. Does it point you towards a crucified Christ?

i just wanted to know what that was..i wanted to ask this a long time ago but i hesitated because i didnt want people thinking i was crazy...it just something that bothered me for a while....and kinda got interested in it...i looked on google and it said something about it being a disease but the way it happens to me is strange...so i had to ask..

 

[Emli]

i just wanted to know what that was..i wanted to ask this a long time ago but i hesitated because i didnt want people thinking i was crazy...it just something that bothered me for a while....and kinda got interested in it...i looked on google and it said something about it being a disease but the way it happens to me is strange...so i had to ask..

It's okay. It's a good thing you asked. And now you know it's nothing uncommon. Whatever it is, whether it's of God or not, it's completely normal, and nothing to worry about. And the Lord will deal with it according to His will if you ask Him to.

 

[Jenniferdiana]

It's okay. It's a good thing you asked. And now you know it's nothing uncommon. Whatever it is, whether it's of God or not, it's completely normal, and nothing to worry about. And the Lord will deal with it according to His will if you ask Him to.

I am not worried. I just think its odd..

 

[amariselle]

Yes, God has definitely given me a true gift of discerning of spirits, and He has been developing it by allowing some attacks. It hasn't been fun, but it has been very valuable.

I haven't really run into anyone like that in my life yet. I live in Sweden, I've been a Christian for less than three years, and I haven't been to church yet, because I haven't found a good one. I know other Christians though, but they are true to the Word. We have other problems in the churches over here, and especially in the Church of Sweden, as you may have heard of. But I have seen and read a lot about the false Christianity in America, and the Lord has explained a little to me about the false "Holy Spirits" that they believe to be God.

And I agree, that sounds bad, but I think there is a lot of generalization in it as well.
It sounds to me like a lot of spiritual pride, such as there is in false religions everywhere, with special "oracles" or a hierarchy of leaders. The gifts are there to edify the Church, and not ourselves. We all have the same Holy Spirit.

But I do believe that we have different assignments in the Church, as the Word tells us, some teachers, some prophets etc, and we all have different work to do for God, that He has prepared for us. And different amount of faith, and different amount of talents. There are weaker brothers and stronger brothers, and that's depending on where we are in our walks with God, and the amount of faith the Lord has given to us. I am very strong in my walk with God, and very close to Christ, all to His glory. I know Him, but that's because I have more of His Truth in my heart and mind, and my faith is stronger than most, because that is what He has given me, but I would never raise myself above others, God wouldn't allow that. Rather, since I'm close to Jesus, I should be a servant of everyone, just like Him. How else could I serve the Lord in Spirit and in Truth? No one has special authority in the Church, we all follow the Lord, who is the head of the Body of Christ. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. Romans 12:3

Though I must add, I have seen a lot of people on these forums, and everywhere else on the Internet, tearing others apart for simply talking about God, about their gifts, their experiences etc, and the Lord has revealed to me that some people are too offended by the false churches, that they immediately turn against almost all of God's glory and power, because they don't really see His Truth. I myself have been attacked for it may times, and aggressively so. Not all of it is fake, and I believe that there is a lot of generalization today, where everyone who believes in gifts are condemned as a false teacher/false Christian. Satan is causing rifts in the Church today over this. And I would like to add, evil spirits are behind these aggressive people as well, and I do believe that there is such a thing as a "Pharisaical spirit", because Jesus called them a "brood of vipers" and "children of the devil", and they snap at and condemn people for the slightest things, and even when it's 100% Biblical, because it goes against some doctrine (whether of demons or of man) that they believe in. We have to test all spirits, not just those who offend us and our personal faith, and not criticize what we cannot understand.

I'm not directing any of this at you personally at all. It's simple a comment, because I found the subject interesting.

It's true, it is a very interesting and very important subject. Discernment (and the gift of discernment) usually gets left out completely or talked about very little in those very churches that seem to emphasize the Spiritual gifts so much.

In any case, you are correct, we need to be very careful. Unfortunately what has been happening in so many churches in North America has been spreading around the world, and I truly do not think it's going away. The Scriptures do warn of such increasing deception in the last days.