Whats the purpose???

[ravenwolf]

I'm curious as to exactly what was the purpose and intent of CF putting a non-Christian religions section in... was it so people can learn about other religions and for diversity?? or was it simply so that all the fundi Christians could bash all the non-Christian religions for the fun of it???? I am beginning to think it is the later.

 

[RJ1]

I actually do learn a lot in here. I have been reading quite a bit of the posts in here and there's a lot of it that is very interesting.

I do wish that people were more respectful, didn't view an honest debate as a 'win' or 'lose' situation but rather a reaching out to others and hopefully everyone learns, situation. I don't see anything wrong with questioning someone's beliefs if it's done respectfully, with love and with an honest attempt at better understanding to be gained by both sides. I'd really like to see some of the little parting shots that people take at each other toned way down.

I like you ravenwolf. You seem to be a sweet, intelligent person. It's unfair to imply this is just a place for fundamentalists to have a bashing party. People don't have to respond to baiting or answer to insults. Report the posts that are offensive. Contact the moderators with a PM and express your concerns. Ignore the people you see trying to bait you and respond to those who have asked honest questions. Seriously, a buzzing fly is no big deal once you learn to tune it out.

We can all choose to take the high road. Those who don't want to, leave them unanswered. I absolutely refuse to insult anyone while defending my beliefs in my faith. I'll debate but I refuse to harm. I know the soul is precious and people care deeply about others but no one is won over by harsh words and insults. I sincerely doubt that any of us belong to a faith that says you'll gain better understanding of others and represent God best when calling names and hurling insults. ( by the way, if someone does belong to a religion like that, please don't tell me. I don't want to know) LOL!!

Sorry to go on and on. This has been on my mind a bit too. I hope you don't think this directed against you in any way, ravenwolf. It most certainly is not!! I appreciate the concerns expressed. And I agree, there has been some real baiting and the one that gets me is the, 'I'm superior over you' attitude. Maybe we all need to remind each other now and again that God loves us all. Regardless of our race, sex, religion; God loves us. That should be remembered at all times when one child of God is speaking to another.

And I need to remember that I really do talk too much. LOL!!

 

[Teh Wiccan]

Sometimes there's a little bashing, but mostly all goes well, whether it be debate or discussion even between other non-christians about their faith.

 

[light-bringer]

Not all people here are christian, so there is a non-christian forums. its nice.

 

[Ave Maria]

I'm curious as to exactly what was the purpose and intent of CF putting a non-Christian religions section in... was it so people can learn about other religions and for diversity?? or was it simply so that all the fundi Christians could bash all the non-Christian religions for the fun of it???? I am beginning to think it is the later.

I'd say it is both to learn about non-Christian religions and for outreach to those who are not Christians.

 

[TrueQ]

It's truth that there are a lot of intolerant folk bashing people here in Non-Christian Religion, but hey, here we hell-destined folk are on a Christian website, speaking our various blasphemies. Bound to be some friction, mostly from fanatics, and who cares what they say? They're fanatics.

 

[Ave Maria]

It's truth that there are a lot of intolerant folk bashing people here in Non-Christian Religion, but hey, here we hell-destined folk are on a Christian website, speaking our various blasphemies. Bound to be some friction, mostly from fanatics, and who cares what they say? They're fanatics.

So we're fanatics just because we believe that non-Christian religions are lies and are of the Devil? The Bible says that there is only one way to Heaven and that is through Jesus Christ. I happen to believe that.

 

[TrueQ]

...Hmm

...Yeah, that sounds pretty fanatic to me.

 

[Mi Zai]

So we're fanatics just because we believe that non-Christian religions are lies and are of the Devil? .

Yes.

 

[RJ1]

So we're fanatics just because we believe that non-Christian religions are lies and are of the Devil? The Bible says that there is only one way to Heaven and that is through Jesus Christ. I happen to believe that.

Uhm, no. That's called being a Christian. Now if she's in your face saying believe this or else I will harm you, that would be an extremist. Many Christians share her beliefs and are entitled to. Just as other religions are entitled to their beliefs. I don't see anything fanatical about holding your religion dear to you. It's fanatical when it's harmful to others. Holly isn't harming anyone by stating that's how she feels. It's simply stating her beliefs.

 

[light-bringer]

I am luciferian gnostic. I belive in Jesus, just not in the same ways as others. He is a kind prophet that we should all listen to.

 

[mrsilent]

I am luciferian gnostic. I belive in Jesus, just not in the same ways as others. He is a kind prophet that we should all listen to.


luciferian gnosyic

 

[vajradhara]

Namate ravenwolf,


thank you for the post.

i understand your concerns.. i've been on the receiving end of some fundie critiques.

eh.. people are of various capacities.. some are more capable of showing open-minededness and tolerance of other views that do not agree with them.

you are correct to note that this is a Christian site and as such, the predominent view will be that of one of the various Christian sects that exist. not much to do about that if you choose to remain here.

there are, of course, plenty of other sites that have good, intelligent discussion, without debate, on a variety of issues including religion.

 

[vajradhara]

Namatse RJ1,

thank you for the post.

Uhm, no. That's called being a Christian. Now if she's in your face saying believe this or else I will harm you, that would be an extremist. Many Christians share her beliefs and are entitled to. Just as other religions are entitled to their beliefs. I don't see anything fanatical about holding your religion dear to you. It's fanatical when it's harmful to others. Holly isn't harming anyone by stating that's how she feels. It's simply stating her beliefs.

whilst this is true, there is a difference, in my view.

even though this is the Non-Chrisitan section of the site, we are still prohibited from properly explaining and expressing our various religious views.... we must still comply to the site rules regarding various positions we may have regarding the Christian Godhead.

i would imagine that, given the nature of this site, it's not unknown to the non-Christian posters what the position of the Christian is.... despite how it may seem, most of us are fairly clear on the Christian teachings

 

[Rae]

So we're fanatics just because we believe that non-Christian religions are lies and are of the Devil?

No, I'd say you were wrong because you believed it, just as I would be if I believed Christianity was all about human cannibalism.

 

[Ave Maria]

No, I'd say you were wrong because you believed it, just as I would be if I believed Christianity was all about human cannibalism.

Sorry Rae, I don't fully understand what you're saying. If my interpretation is correct, then say I'm wrong because that's what I believe. I believe that all non-Christian religions are lies and are of the Devil. That doesn't mean that there isn't any good in them though. I believe in one true religion. All other religions are not true.

 

[Zen_Woof]

even though this is the Non-Chrisitan section of the site, we are still prohibited from properly explaining and expressing our various religious views.... we must still comply to the site rules regarding various positions we may have regarding the Christian Godhead.

Greetings all.

This is the part that is particularly difficult for me sometimes. I can only answer questions up to a point so I do not seem to be promoting or proselytizing (regardless of my specific intent to NOT do this.)

I'm curious as to exactly what was the purpose and intent of CF putting a non-Christian religions section in... was it so people can learn about other religions and for diversity?? or was it simply so that all the fundi Christians could bash all the non-Christian religions for the fun of it???? I am beginning to think it is the later.

I've felt like you have in the past ... like the non-Christians are just here for target practice. However, as other posters have stated, this is a Christian site and that belief in the exclusive truth of Christianity (as well as proselytizing) is a big part of the practice for many. You can't change someone's mind if they don't want it changed, and that goes both ways. Besides, it can be good practice in working with and examining the affects of anger.

With metta,
ZW

 

[Dymphna3]

I believe that all non-Christian religions are lies and are of the Devil. That doesn't mean that there isn't any good in them though. I believe in one true religion. All other religions are not true.

Isn't that the sin of presumption Holly?...you know where you just assume things based on your own narrow view of God? That's what I think you are doing. And that's wrong. You have no idea whether or not your religion is right. I have no idea whether or not my beilefs are right or not. You just can't assume stuff like that.

 

[Rae]

I believe that all non-Christian religions are lies and are of the Devil.

And that is a wrong belief.

 

[e=mv^2]

I don't get this. It is ok for a pagan to say that Christianity is utterly bogus but when we refute this and explain our beliefs they get all bent out of shape.

How is that right?

Those that believe what the Bible tells us believe what it says in 1 Corinthians Chapter 10:

No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be partners with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.

There you have it. Yet when we say this we are suddenly caste as "fundi".

Hello pot, this is kettle. You can not come in here spouting that Christ is false and that our Bible is wrong and not expect to be refuted.