ChristOurCaptain
Augsburgian Catholic
So, what makes your tradition more legitimate than his? The fact that it's islamic?
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A couple of differences:
1. Whale meat is not popular in Japan.
2. Whaling in Japan is not a religious rite.
3. I didn't criticize the claims of tradition, I asked why this tradition was important. The reason I used quotes around tradition was that I had thought that whaling was a modern phenomenon in Japan, and after some research I have found that it dates back to a pretty early time in Japanese history. But once again, why is this tradition important? AkiraYamato has only claimed that the tradition is needed just in case Japan needs to rely on whale meat for sustenance. I think this is a rather weak argument personally, but so it goes.
No, the fact that it is centered on religion and has great significance in showing faith. The fact that the animals that are sacrificed are parceled out to the needy, so that they may eat and share prosperity with those more fortunate. The fact that the animals sacrificed are domestic animals.So, what makes your tradition more legitimate than his? The fact that it's islamic?
Another thing regarding the appeal to "tradition". Eating whale meat may very well be tradition, but I doubt that that tradition involved the type of methods that are in use today. If people want to stick to tradition and use hand-thrown harpoons, fine. But that's not what's happening.
Another thing regarding the appeal to "tradition". Eating whale meat may very well be tradition, but I doubt that that tradition involved the type of methods that are in use today. If people want to stick to tradition and use hand-thrown harpoons, fine. But that's not what's happening.
So are you. You'd be cool with being eaten?
No, the fact that it is centered on religion and has great significance in showing faith. The fact that the animals that are sacrificed are parceled out to the needy, so that they may eat and share prosperity with those more fortunate. The fact that the animals sacrificed are domestic animals.
Japan did not use hand harpoons in its tradition. Whales were pushed into narrow bays and then killed with knifes and swords.
Healing people who are sick is also a tradition going back as far as civilization itself.
Are you saying that we should also stick to the same methods there as our earliest ancestors, too, or is this another example of hypocrisy?
Except people aren't using tradition as an excuse to heal people. Also, healing people isn't harmful; killing whales is.
All of which boils down to the following, when the work-arounds are shoved aside: "Because my tradition says to do it."
Well, japanese tradition says to hunt whales. There's no difference.
Also cultural racism is harmful, isn´t it? I find it amusing, because anti whaling is a western phenomen. So you think we should bow to your culture and wishes? What else should we stop or change?
I'm starting to think you are deliberately missing the point. Japan's tradition of whaling is not a central part of their culture. Whale meat is not central to Japanese diets. Japan does not gain cultural individuality from its whaling practices.
Qurban is an important practice in Islam. It is a symbolic offering to God to show our faith in Him. It is also a way of tying the Ummah together, by distributing what we have to those who cannot afford their own. The restriction on which animals that can be used are fairly strict, and only domesticated animals can be used. A cow is not as valuable to the environment as a whale.
Norway also continues to whale. Norway also faces the same criticisms from Western countries. It isn't about cultural bigotry, it's about the values that many western countries hold with regards to the environment.
Except people aren't using tradition as an excuse to heal people.
Also, healing people isn't harmful; killing whales is.
I'm starting to think you are deliberately missing the point.
I don't think anyone would have a problem if there weren't endangered species being hunted.
There seems to be no regulation or catch limits so it would seem the whales may be hunted to extinction. How will that be good for tradition? A good hunter respects his prey and allows it to flourish so the hunt can always be plentiful in the future.
Well, I for one am a vegan, and don't support whaling for that reason.
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