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Whats the point of praying

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Ive been thinking about this a lot. Im not sure about praying at all. I mean I get told to pray and God will answer my prayers but if he doesn’t its Gods will…..but he’s still listening….. Or im told if I have enough faith, If I truly believe my prayers will be answered…. So Im thinking well wait… when I was in trouble and asked for Gods help …. And something bad happened …does that mean God was…well what…was it just Gods will that I just have to suffer... Or I didn’t ask hard enough or believe..…or was it that God heard but decided he wasn’t going to intervene or couldn’t intervene. So what was the point of praying because if its god will and so…well what is he going to be like…well I was going to let you suffer but since you asked for help then fine…I will.


And then I get angry when people say they will pray for me or I hear lots will pray for me …and I get frustrated because its like…well what are you all telling me – If I ask God and he says no then..Ok he says no but then maybe if you pray for me or ask…or lots pray for me…then maybe he’ll change his mind and be like..Ok well when Zoii asked I wasn’t going to but since all u lot asked….. Why does lots praying make a difference – If its gods will then not even one person asking will change it so why would two or three etc.

I know this sounds maybe disrespectful but im not meaning to be….
Zoii, I'm not sure if you have kids, but you certainly were one at one time. Praying is the way we talk to God and our Savior.
Prayer doesn't have to be and should not be a tool for asking for things all the time. It is a time for thankfulness, questions, requests, sharing....

To God, you are like His child. He wants to hear from you all the time. Think of your parents, what if you never said a word about anything unless you wanted something or were hurt or just said a quick thank you.

No, God wants us to pray continually, just like your parents want to know how you are doing, your goals, you accomplishments, your frustrations.

Sure, God knows your prayers before you pray them. Yet, lots of times I know what my kids want before they ask. Sometimes I give them what they want or need before they ask but it's far more relational and connecting if they come to me and ask politely for something....

Our relationship with our savior is a lot like a relationship with a parent or guardian in many many ways.

Praying is not a waste of time. Even if your answers seem to be "no" much of the time.
 
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Asking God for things and favors is not a terribly good prayer. Think of prayer as taking time to connect with God. Try being quiet and letting the light of God shine on you.
 
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Turn your prayers in to a sacrifice of deep love for God.

Prayer can be difficult. I know as i struggle with prayer. But, persevere. Show God that no matter what, you will adore Him and worship Him for all your life.

I have said many times that i feel as though i am hitting my head against a wall when praying to God. But, i wont give up!! I will keep knocking on God's door!

God bless you
 
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the point of praying is develop our obedience to God's will and trust in His promises to us as His people.

philippians 4:6-7
james 1:2-8
james 4:1-4

we also pray because while God is omniscient(isaiah 46:9-10), we are not, as we ourselves don't know what God has decreed for us from one day to the next.
 
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Now you have become my judge!
My faith in Jesus' sacrifice is the only washing I need. Furthermore, I live a life of a veritable monk. The only thing missing is the monastery and the monk attire and maybe shaving the back of my head. So what is he going to wash? My pate?
No my friend, I'm not the one who makes judgements, I'm just trying to figure out why your prayers are not working.
 
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Here is a story of a lady who went against the will and got her request...

1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Notes....

1. It was not the will of the judge to do anything at all for this woman.
2. The judge wanted nothing to do with this woman and was eager to get her off his back..
3. Assuredly... The judge did not care to avenge her adversaries and had no interest in her case

But....

She kept coming back!
Kept coming back!
Kept coming back!

After a while she wearied the judge and he gave her what she had need of. This is the same way with God the Father. There may be cares and issues in our life that he appears to care nothing about. It also may appear our requests are outside his will. But like the widow in the story there is hope that if we cry unto God the Father in Jesus name, and stay daily in prayer and faith, that we will see our requests made. I must say also... It is not the will of God for a revival to occur. If no one has interest in prayer a revival will never come to town... However... If we do like the widow in the story... And keep coming back.. Keep coming back... Keep coming back! There is great hope for revival! And whatever else you have in need of prayer!

Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear? - Genesis 17:17

Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also? - Genesis 18:12

Believing God for the miraculous...

 
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Ive been thinking about this a lot. Im not sure about praying at all. I mean I get told to pray and God will answer my prayers but if he doesn’t its Gods will…..but he’s still listening….. Or im told if I have enough faith, If I truly believe my prayers will be answered…. So Im thinking well wait… when I was in trouble and asked for Gods help …. And something bad happened …does that mean God was…well what…was it just Gods will that I just have to suffer... Or I didn’t ask hard enough or believe..…or was it that God heard but decided he wasn’t going to intervene or couldn’t intervene. So what was the point of praying because if its god will and so…well what is he going to be like…well I was going to let you suffer but since you asked for help then fine…I will.


And then I get angry when people say they will pray for me or I hear lots will pray for me …and I get frustrated because its like…well what are you all telling me – If I ask God and he says no then..Ok he says no but then maybe if you pray for me or ask…or lots pray for me…then maybe he’ll change his mind and be like..Ok well when Zoii asked I wasn’t going to but since all u lot asked….. Why does lots praying make a difference – If its gods will then not even one person asking will change it so why would two or three etc.

I know this sounds maybe disrespectful but im not meaning to be….
I to have had problems like this. I have been very frustrated with a lack of response from prayer and have stopped praying at times for months.
Mind you I suppose He might also be frustrated with my lack of response when He communicates with me.
It cuts both ways that knife.
But you ask what the point of it is and I would say "Relationship" it is all about relationship with Him.
 
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Calvin has good thoughts on this subject:

But, someone will say, does God not know, even without being reminded, both in what respect we are troubled and what is expedient for us, so that it may seem in a sense superfluous that he should be stirred up by our prayers—as if he were drowsily blinking or even sleeping until he is aroused by our voice? But they who thus reason do not observe to what end the Lord instructed his people to pray, for he ordained it not so much for his own sake as for ours. Now he wills—as is right—that his due be rendered to him, in the recognition that everything men desire and account conducive to their own profit comes from him, and in the attestation of this by prayers. But the profit of this sacrifice also, by which he is worshiped, returns to us. Accordingly, the holy fathers, the more confidently they extolled God’s benefits among themselves and others, were the more keenly aroused to pray. It will be enough for us to note the single example of Elijah, who, sure of God’s purpose, after he has deliberately promised rain to King Ahab, still anxiously prays with his head between his knees, and sends his servant seven times to look [1 Kings 18:42], not because he would discredit his prophecy, but because he knew it was his duty, lest his faith be sleepy or sluggish, to lay his desires before God.

Therefore, even though, while we grow dull and stupid toward our miseries, he watches and keeps guard on our behalf, and sometimes even helps us unasked, still it is very important for us to call upon him: First, that our hearts may be fired with a zealous and burning desire ever to seek, love, and serve him, while we become accustomed in every need to flee to him as to a sacred anchor. Secondly, that there may enter our hearts no desire and no wish at all of which we should be ashamed to make him a witness, while we learn to set all our wishes before his eyes, and even to pour out our whole hearts. Thirdly, that we be prepared to receive his benefits with true gratitude of heart and thanksgiving, benefits that our prayer reminds us come from his hand [cf. Psalm 145:15-16]. Fourthly, moreover, that, having obtained what we were seeking, and being convinced that he has answered our prayers, we should be led to meditate upon his kindness more ardently. And fifthly, that at the same time we embrace with greater delight those things which we acknowledge to have been obtained by prayers. Finally, that use and experience may, according to the measure of our feebleness, confirm his providence, while we understand not only that he promises never to fail us, and of his own will opens the way to call upon him at the very point of necessity, but also that he ever extends his hand to help his own, not wet-nursing them with words but defending them with present help.

On account of these things, our most merciful Father, although he never either sleeps or idles, still very often gives the impression of one sleeping or idling in order that he may thus train us, otherwise idle and lazy, to seek, ask, and entreat him to our great good.

Therefore they act with excessive foolishness who, to call men’s minds away from prayer, babble that God’s providence, standing guard over all things, is vainly importuned with our entreaties, F499 inasmuch as the Lord has not, on the contrary, vainly attested that “he is near... to all who call upon his name in truth” [Psalm 145:18, cf. Comm. and Vg.]. Quite like this is what others prate: that it is superfluous for them to petition for things that the Lord is gladly ready to bestow, while those very things which flow to us from his voluntary liberality he would have us recognize as granted to our prayers. That memorable saying of the psalm attests this, and to it many similar passages correspond: “For the eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and his ears toward their prayers” [1 Peter 3:12; Psalm 34:15; cf. 33:16, Vg.]. This sentence so commends the providence of God—intent of his own accord upon caring for the salvation of the godly—as yet not to omit the exercise of faith, by which men’s minds are cleansed of indolence. The eyes of God are therefore watchful to assist the blind in their necessity, but he is willing in turn to hear our groanings that he may the better prove his love toward us. And so both are true: “that the keeper of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps” [Psalm 121:4, cf. Comm.], and yet that he is inactive, as if
forgetting us, when he sees us idle and mute.

—John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, II.xx.3.
 
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How would you ever know that you are hearing from God and not having an internal conversation with yourself?
Well ultimately you don't. In the same way that you could never know that you are not a solitary brain in a vat.
 
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So what's the point of prayer then? How many people are actually hearing from God and how would you know?

What's the point of doing anything? Same answer.
 
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I would suggest that you're likely looking at praying wrong. Not understanding what praying is.

Praying is how the born again believer talks to his Father. Jesus prayed regularly and he was the Son of God. Jesus didn't always get what he prayed for either. He asked his Father to not put him through the pain and suffering of the cross, but acquiesced that if it was His will, then he would do it. I'm confident that Jesus didn't always go to prayer always asking his Father to do things for him. He merely bowed and humbled himself before his Father, as a subject does before a king, and talked to his Father.

We, those who are born again, have that same access to communicate with our Father. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm regularly thanking God for His mercy and His love. I'm always thanking Him for the blessings that fill the days of my life. The very fact that life exists and that I am a part of that life is a blessing that I am aware of every day of my life and I give my Father thanks for that in prayer. I regularly thank Him for sending forth His word that I might know Him and His purposes and what He wants of me. Where would I be without the Scriptures? How would I even know who God was if He hadn't taken the initiative to raise up a nation of people to record His words and protect them so that when I came along thousands of years later, they were still here for me to know Him. I give thanks to God all the time for that wonderful, wonderful blessing to which I owe my entire everlasting future which would be lost without all that He had done. I thank Him often and regularly for the guidance and wisdom of the Holy Spirit. The friend and companion that convicts me of my sin and also of the way of righteousness. I give my Father heartfelt thanks for these things all the time and I do it through prayer.

Yes, when I have a particular struggle I also take that before my Father and ask Him for peace regarding the situation if it's something that I can't change. Help in changing it, if, just as Jesus did, it is His will. God is not some magic genie that you pop out of the lamp whenever things aren't going well. He is a friend and partner in life and I communicate with Him about all these things through prayer.

What value is there in prayer? It is of inestimable value for His children born of His Spirit. For all the rest, probably not much value at all. Prayer doesn't save anyone, but it is a great and comforting process through which the children of God speak with their Father. I'm fairly well convicted that, just as God warned Israel that their rebellion would cause Him not to hear their prayers, He doesn't listen to many of the prayers sent up to Him by those who are not His children...except for the prayer of a seeking heart seeking after Him.

God bless you,
In Christ, Ted
 
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Ive been thinking about this a lot. Im not sure about praying at all. I mean I get told to pray and God will answer my prayers but if he doesn’t its Gods will…..but he’s still listening….. Or im told if I have enough faith, If I truly believe my prayers will be answered…. So Im thinking well wait… when I was in trouble and asked for Gods help …. And something bad happened …does that mean God was…well what…was it just Gods will that I just have to suffer... Or I didn’t ask hard enough or believe..…or was it that God heard but decided he wasn’t going to intervene or couldn’t intervene. So what was the point of praying because if its god will and so…well what is he going to be like…well I was going to let you suffer but since you asked for help then fine…I will. .

Somethings to keep in mind for the sake of clarity.

1. God is not running on "auto-pilot" - read the end of Matt 23 or John 1:11 and you will see.

2. You are not running on "auto-pilot" ... try sleeping in instead of going to work - you will see your "behavior change" in response to what work tells you about doing such a thing.

3. The Bible tells us to pray - and it is certain that God uses problems to drive us to pray - and seek God - "ask and you shall receive... seek and you shall find...knock and it shall be opened unto you" -- Matthew 7.

It does not say "Auto-pilot I am... auto-pilot you are... just sit back and watch what just-so-happens"
 
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