What's the matter with us?

[Niels]

Makes you wonder where are the "Thank God you didn't marry the wrong man/woman" cards.

I'd buy cards like that, mail a few to friends... and save one for my future wife.

 

[Sunset2009]

Whether or not a girl is a tomboy, or a man is unusually hygenic isn't really the point. Men shouldn't look like women, obviously, and women shouldn't look like men, but we do have Biblical roles, and things that are expected out of us as men and women. Our personalities don't have too much to do with that.

Men are to be the leaders of the home, women are to have a quiet and gentle spirit (1 Peter 3:4), etc. There are things God expects out of us.

If we are NOT those things, or have no desire to be those things, it probably has a lot to do with our upbringing, things we've been exposed to, the new mindset women have after the Feminist Movement, etc.

I would not be so quick to say that every characteristic and personality trait we have is straight down from God. Christians are WAY TOO FAST in saying "God made me this way!"

 

[IreneAdler]

(biblically men are to be the leaders of WOMEN and WOMEN are to be the leaders of the home... why this is so mistaught is beyond me... )

 

[Sunset2009]

(biblically men are to be the leaders of WOMEN and WOMEN are to be the leaders of the home... why this is so mistaught is beyond me... )

...Maybe because that's not what the Bible says.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

(biblically men are to be the leaders of WOMEN and WOMEN are to be the leaders of the home... why this is so mistaught is beyond me... )

I think the societal thing is that they rule over the affairs of the home. That is if they're wealthy enough to supervise such endeavors.

 

[IreneAdler]

it is. really.
Even non wealthy. I mean... say doing the books, making the budget, etc.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

The details, yep. A lot of poorer women had to work too. Not everyone had slaves.

 

[Sunset2009]

Seriously, you guys are looking at the tiny details that don't mean anything. A woman, alone, is not the leader of the entire home. She is not the sole leader of her children. Man is head of his wife and the couple is head of their home. That said, man will be responsible for how his family turns out, not the wife.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I don't think I've asserted anything that deviated from what you're saying.

 

[IreneAdler]

I think I've just clarified that we're not jobless mutes

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Ok, that was funny. XD
I'm not sure it's as simple/broad as that. Influences shoot in from everywhere. Like they say "It takes a village to raise a child." though in times past parents did control destinies.

 

[IreneAdler]

glad they don't now

 

[Mobiosity]

I'm asking this question about those of us who don't fit our gender roles, those of us who don't fit the standards of masculinity and femininity.

Is there something broken inside us?

Physically I am not at all feminine. 5' 10" Broad shoulders (broad butt too). There is nothing broken about me.

Like for me, I feel like i have no maternal instinct whatsoever. Is there something broken in a woman who doesn't have this? Or a guy who doesn't have the desire to take on the role as a leader? Is there something wrong with him?

No, not at all. Look at the entire population of the world, we are all on a continuum. You and I don't want kids, my adopted sister has 4, she was meant to be a mom. We are on one end of the spectrum and she is closer to the other. There are women who bow to what others think they should do instead of what they want to do. They end up with kids they don't want who are miserable and quite possibly abused. We are all more or less masculine, feminine, intelligent, talented, moody, rude, selfish, graceful, tuneful; we aren't meant to be anything other than what God designed us to be. That's what is meant by "everyone is unique" because we all are. Don't buy into society saying there is something wrong with you because you're not what someone else thinks you should be.

 

[IreneAdler]

(((mob)))

between you and me we could be a linebacker.

 

[Mobiosity]

Seriously, you guys are looking at the tiny details that don't mean anything. A woman, alone, is not the leader of the entire home. She is not the sole leader of her children.

Unless of course, she is the leader of the entire home. (Man's gone, dead, doesn't care)

Man is head of his wife and the couple is head of their home. That said, man will be responsible for how his family turns out, not the wife.

God is over the family and the man is in charge of leading spiritually. If he's there, if he's a Christian, if he cares. If not, the woman once again takes the role.