"what's In The Box" ?????

[GregKerr]

The most famous box that ever existed was a golden box called The Ark Of The Covenant. Inside The Ark were three things. The Pot Of Mana, The Rod Of Aaron and The Ten commandments. The Pot Of Mana, Jesus said He was this living bread that fell from heaven, The Rod Of Aaron was a walking staff carried by Aaron for many years, this rod was alive as a tree, then was dead and used for a walking stick then it budded again. It symbolizes the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. The third thing in This Ark Of God was the Ten Commandments, also symbolic of Christ. (1) Christ, (2) Christ, (3) Christ Remember this...the earthly Ark was only a copy of the Original Ark which is part of the THRONE OF GOD which is in Heaven.........Any Comments???? Any Questions????

 

[mannequinsmile]

According to “Raiders of the lost Ark”, there are a bunch of wispy ghost things that melt your face when you look at them …

 

[walshclan]

Well that's pretty cool but how is the 10 commandments a symbol of Christ. He hardly mentioned them. He instead summerized them with the 2 great commandments. He set us free from sins, he didn't give us rules for the sins. Not that the 10 aren't great but I don't see how they are a symbol of Christ. Aaron's staff I believe. The pot of manna...okay.

Anyway I look forward to your reply.

In Him,

 

[flyingsum0]

According to “Raiders of the lost Ark”, there are a bunch of wispy ghost things that melt your face when you look at them …

 

[JTLauder]

Hmmm...yeah, I think the most famous box is actually Pandora's Box. Everyone has heard of pandora's box and the metaphor it represents.

Ask a non-Christian about the Ark of the Covenant and most will tell you very confidently about it from what they saw in Indy's first movie.

 

[BustedFlat]

Well that's pretty cool but how is the 10 commandments a symbol of Christ. He hardly mentioned them. He instead summerized them with the 2 great commandments. He set us free from sins, he didn't give us rules for the sins. Not that the 10 aren't great but I don't see how they are a symbol of Christ. Aaron's staff I believe. The pot of manna...okay.

Anyway I look forward to your reply.

In Him,

Hardly mentions them? Read Matthew 5. He goes through then then magnifies them by adding thoughts to the deeds that are mentioned.

Mat 5:21¶Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

He also states that His was the voice in the burning bush and His was the finger that wrote the law. I will leave it to you to find where.

 

[GregKerr]

Well that's pretty cool but how is the 10 commandments a symbol of Christ. He hardly mentioned them. He instead summerized them with the 2 great commandments. He set us free from sins, he didn't give us rules for the sins. Not that the 10 aren't great but I don't see how they are a symbol of Christ. Aaron's staff I believe. The pot of manna...okay.

Anyway I look forward to your reply.

In Him,

In the five books of Jesus, (the four gospels and Revelation), Jesus teaches the commandments are to be kept for eternal life, to be born again, to be a saint (need help finding these scriptures ???) Remember this key...everything in the ministry of Moses was a copy of what is in heaven. In the book of Revelation in the temple of God in heaven is seen the original Ark of the covenant in which are the Ten Commandments, this Ark is part of God's Throne that He is presently sitting on.........

 

[KleinerApfel]

In the five books of Jesus, (the four gospels and Revelation), Jesus teaches the commandments are to be kept for eternal life, to be born again, to be a saint (need help finding these scriptures ???)

Good luck with that.

I'll stick with resting in the grace of forgiveness thank you. Have YOU kept the whole law?

 

[BustedFlat]

Good luck with that.

I'll stick with resting in the grace of forgiveness thank you. Have YOU kept the whole law?

Grace and forgivness get you in the door, Then what are you going to do forever after?

 

[holo]

The Pot Of Mana

Ooh, I'd love to stuff some of that in my pipe!





(Just kidding, I don't use drugs anymore.)

 

[holo]

Grace and forgivness get you in the door, Then what are you going to do forever after?

Rest, enjoy life (eternity) with the Lord. Eat and drink and be merry and praise my creator.

Actually, grace doesn't just get you in the door, it gets you all the way.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Amen brother Holo.

 

[BustedFlat]

I would think the Lord disagrees with you:

Mat 16:27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.


1Cr 3:14 If anyone's work which he has built on [it] endures, he will receive a reward.


Col 3:22 Bondservants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in sincerity of heart, fearing God.
Col 3:23 And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men,
Col 3:24 knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for[fn1] you serve the Lord Christ.
Col 3:25 But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality.


2Jo 1:4 I rejoiced greatly that I have found some of your children walking in truth, as we received commandment from the Father.
2Jo 1:5 And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another.
2Jo 1:6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jo 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we[fn2] do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.


Rev 22:12 "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward [is] with Me, to give to every one according to his work.

A study of Ephesians chapters four five and six go into great depth on this as well.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Enjoying life in Christ and praising him LEADS to the rest as night follows day.

Nobody means you don't need to "do" as well, but the doing comes gradually as fruit when we know the Lord.

 

[MaidforHim]

I would think the Lord disagrees with you:

Mat 16:27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.


1Cr 3:14 If anyone's work which he has built on [it] endures, he will receive a reward.


Col 3:22 Bondservants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in sincerity of heart, fearing God.
Col 3:23 And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men,
Col 3:24 knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for[fn1] you serve the Lord Christ.
Col 3:25 But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality.


2Jo 1:4 I rejoiced greatly that I have found some of your children walking in truth, as we received commandment from the Father.
2Jo 1:5 And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another.
2Jo 1:6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jo 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we[fn2] do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.


Rev 22:12 "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward [is] with Me, to give to every one according to his work.

A study of Ephesians chapters four five and six go into great depth on this as well.

Amen brother, great scripture. Thanks for sharing it.

 

[MaidforHim]

We're saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

But He wants more, our journey doesn't end there.

Works is the natural result of being truly saved. Once you choose Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you enter into a journey and the changes should begin. Leaving the old man behind, his old ways and yearnings slowly or even quickly falling away.

Being born again, the Holy Spirit taking up residence in you brings about big changes. The desire to continually work towards living a life that is pleasing to Jesus Christ should become our focus.

The tree that bares no fruit, or bares bad fruit is cut off.

I think a tree that bares no fruit could include the luke warm and the bad fruit could include those that pervert scripture, promoting the worlds values rather than God's truth.

I think Jesus clearly illustrated that God's commandments are still important for believers even though we are not bound by the law, our behavior still counts.

What I wonder is if people who bare no fruit or evil fruit... are they not truly saved? OR Do they consciously resist the Holy Spirits direction to do the work(s) God is leading them to do? Is this a form of the unforgivable sin?

Maybe they were never really saved at all, but just toyed with the idea? Holding back a part of themselves and never really surrendering all?

Maybe those are questions for another thread.

Mt 3:10 - Show ContextAnd now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ​

Mt 7:17 - Show ContextEven so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. ​

Mt 7:18 - Show ContextA good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. ​

Mt 7:19 - Show ContextEvery tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ​

Mt 12:33 - Show ContextEither make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. ​

Mt 21:19 - Show ContextAnd when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. ​

Lu 3:9 - Show ContextAnd now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ​

Lu 6:43 - Show ContextFor a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. ​

Lu 6:44 - Show ContextFor every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. ​

Lu 13:6-7 - Show Context6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? ​

1 Corinthians 3:13-17 ​

13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. ​

14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. ​

15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. ​

16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? ​

17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.​

Revelation 3:15-22 ​

15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.​

16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, F27 I will vomit you out of My mouth. ​

17 Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'--and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked-- ​

18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. ​

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. ​

20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. ​

21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. ​

22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." ' " ​

 

[BustedFlat]

God Bless you Maid!

Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
4:2With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

[GregKerr]

Hardly mentions them? Read Matthew 5. He goes through then then magnifies them by adding thoughts to the deeds that are mentioned.

Mat 5:21¶Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

He also states that His was the voice in the burning bush and His was the finger that wrote the law. I will leave it to you to find where.

Few are headed in the right direction concerning the commandments, but you seem to be one of them. You may want to stop right now, due to the posibility that more understandings on this subject may shake your world. If not go to Revelation 12:17 concerning requirements to be Born Again...GregKerr

 

[GregKerr]

We're saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

But He wants more, our journey doesn't end there.

Works is the natural result of being truly saved. Once you choose Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you enter into a journey and the changes should begin. Leaving the old man behind, his old ways and yearnings slowly or even quickly falling away.

Being born again, the Holy Spirit taking up residence in you brings about big changes. The desire to continually work towards living a life that is pleasing to Jesus Christ should become our focus.

The tree that bares no fruit, or bares bad fruit is cut off.

I think a tree that bares no fruit could include the luke warm and the bad fruit could include those that pervert scripture, promoting the worlds values rather than God's truth.

I think Jesus clearly illustrated that God's commandments are still important for believers even though we are not bound by the law, our behavior still counts.

What I wonder is if people who bare no fruit or evil fruit... are they not truly saved? OR Do they consciously resist the Holy Spirits direction to do the work(s) God is leading them to do? Is this a form of the unforgivable sin?

Maybe they were never really saved at all, but just toyed with the idea? Holding back a part of themselves and never really surrendering all?

Maybe those are questions for another thread.

Mt 3:10 - Show ContextAnd now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ​

Mt 7:17 - Show ContextEven so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. ​

Mt 7:18 - Show ContextA good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. ​

Mt 7:19 - Show ContextEvery tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ​

Mt 12:33 - Show ContextEither make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. ​

Mt 21:19 - Show ContextAnd when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. ​

Lu 3:9 - Show ContextAnd now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ​

Lu 6:43 - Show ContextFor a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. ​

Lu 6:44 - Show ContextFor every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. ​

Lu 13:6-7 - Show Context6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? ​

1 Corinthians 3:13-17 ​

13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. ​

14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. ​

15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. ​

16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? ​

17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.​

Revelation 3:15-22 ​

15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.​

16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, F27 I will vomit you out of My mouth. ​

17 Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'--and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked-- ​

18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. ​

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. ​

20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. ​

21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. ​

22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." ' " ​

16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, "Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?"
17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
Matt 19:16-17 (NKJV)

 

[KleinerApfel]

We're saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

But He wants more, our journey doesn't end there.

​

Great post, clear and balanced. (Just quoted this part which sums it up well rather than take up lots of room with the whole thing.)