What's good for the goose...

[timothyu]

Christianity as a rule has always spoken out against suicide, as we are not to self determine the expiration of what God had given us, putting our will ahead of His. Does the same principle not apply to those who seek medical attention when they have say appendicitis, a stroke or perhaps sepsis? Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips and we in seeking man's help, rebel against His will in that way also, the outcome being all but guaranteed? How many here would have died years ago without human intervention?

 

[sandman]

Christianity as a rule has always spoken out against suicide, as we are not to self determine the expiration of what God had given us, putting our will ahead of His. Does the same principle not apply to those who seek medical attention when they have say appendicitis, a stroke or perhaps sepsis? Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips and we in seeking man's help, rebel against His will in that way also, the outcome being all but guaranteed? How many here would have died years ago without human intervention?

God doesn’t kill people.

Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Suicide is more condemned through religion than it is biblically.

 

[timothyu]

God doesn’t kill people.

So the expiration date is all on the adversary even though Genesis says we were to be removed from the tree of Life?

 

[sandman]

So the expiration date is all on the adversary even though Genesis says we were to be removed from the tree of Life?

There is much about the original sin, the tree of the knowledge of good, and evil tree of life …that we don’t know, and won’t know the full story behind unless or until God reveals it to us in eternity.

To know why God had to drive them out is encased in that…and we just don’t know…

 

[timothyu]

To know why God had to drive them out is encased in that…and we just don’t know…

Seems rather obvious that we humans deciding everything to suit ourselves rather than the will of God or suit each other would and has caused nothing but trouble in this world. it's why we were banished and quarantined, to suffer the consequences of our own will.

 

[timothyu]

The soul who sins is the one who will die

And sin is putting our will ahead of the will of God, and that applies to self determining whether we should die or even live.

 

[timothyu]

See my edit

 

[Jesus is my Superhero]

Believing Psalm 8:6 and other scriptures, discovering and blending ingredients to create remedies that are beneficial for mankind and animals too is not sinful. I agree that science at times goes too far and perverts or degrades what was intended as a good. An example is using human fetus cells in substances such as vaccinations.

 

[Bradskii]

And sin is putting our will ahead of the will of God, and that applies to self determining whether we should die or even live.

There's a train coming. Do you get off the tracks or is it 'your time'? Your boat sinks. Do you swim for the shore or is it 'your time'? You're choking to death. Do you want help? If you have a heart attack do you carry a card saying 'Do not recussitate'?

Seems like all the decisions we make are up to us. Take it up with Him when you see Him.

 

[Robban]

Christianity as a rule has always spoken out against suicide, as we are not to self determine the expiration of what God had given us, putting our will ahead of His. Does the same principle not apply to those who seek medical attention when they have say appendicitis, a stroke or perhaps sepsis? Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips and we in seeking man's help, rebel against His will in that way also, the outcome being all but guaranteed? How many here would have died years ago without human intervention?

Tragic when it happens, best not to draw hasty conclusions,

Only God knows the secrets of the heart.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

God doesn’t kill people.

Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Suicide is more condemned through religion than it is biblically.

Yep, technically it was the rain...

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Christianity as a rule has always spoken out against suicide, as we are not to self determine the expiration of what God had given us, putting our will ahead of His. Does the same principle not apply to those who seek medical attention when they have say appendicitis, a stroke or perhaps sepsis? Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips and we in seeking man's help, rebel against His will in that way also, the outcome being all but guaranteed? How many here would have died years ago without human intervention?

God gave us tools for survival. Look at all the advances of God given human knowledge and intervention! I am most impressed with Forensic DNA Geneology!
Blessings.

 

[Robban]

When a plane crashes a search is carried out to find the "black box".

I have not heard that humans have a black box so it can proven why.

 

[Neutral Observer]

Christianity as a rule has always spoken out against suicide, as we are not to self determine the expiration of what God had given us, putting our will ahead of His. Does the same principle not apply to those who seek medical attention when they have say appendicitis, a stroke or perhaps sepsis? Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips and we in seeking man's help, rebel against His will in that way also, the outcome being all but guaranteed? How many here would have died years ago without human intervention?

King Saul and his armor bearer both committed suicide.

Samson committed suicide. In fact one might consider Samson to be the first recorded case of a suicide bomber.

 

[Jonaitis]

Christianity as a rule has always spoken out against suicide, as we are not to self determine the expiration of what God had given us, putting our will ahead of His. Does the same principle not apply to those who seek medical attention when they have say appendicitis, a stroke or perhaps sepsis? Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips and we in seeking man's help, rebel against His will in that way also, the outcome being all but guaranteed? How many here would have died years ago without human intervention?

I just think that human intervention can be a form of trust in God if done so with one's hope that He will use it as the instruments of prayer.

 

[Whyayeman]

Christianity as a rule has always spoken out against suicide, as we are not to self determine the expiration of what God had given us, putting our will ahead of His. Does the same principle not apply to those who seek medical attention when they have say appendicitis, a stroke or perhaps sepsis? Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips and we in seeking man's help, rebel against His will in that way also, the outcome being all but guaranteed? How many here would have died years ago without human intervention?

God gave us tools for survival. Look at all the advances of God given human knowledge and intervention! I am most impressed with Forensic DNA Geneology!
Blessings.

I am getting on all right without the advantages of commercial genealogy, thank you. It is, in my opinion, one of the dodgier misuses of the discoveries relating to DNA.

 

[Diamond7]

Could that not have been God's way of cashing in our chips

God is life, health and healing. He wants us to choose life, health, healing and prosperity. Not everyone makes the right choices in life. Is God a God of Justice and mercy? Can we have both?

 

[timothyu]

God is life, health and healing. He wants us to choose life, health, healing and prosperity.

God created everything including a limited shelf life and the culprits that bring about our demise. Everything is food for something else. And He prefers e chose the Kingdom rather than what man deems worthy.

 

[Estrid]

God doesn’t kill people.

Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Suicide is more condemned through religion than it is biblically.

So the flood?

 

[Diamond7]

Everything is food for something else.

Not everything at the grocery store is food. Some of it comes more from a chemist than a cook. I do believe in the food chain though. We all started out pond scum and we had to work out way up the food chain.