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Moses was a type of Yahshua. Moses was given the same word that Yahshua told us to obey.
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Jesus is the Word that proceeded out of the mouth of God. Leave Moses alone. He was not allowed to enter into the promised land. He perished in the same wilderness you are in now, spiritually.
Who thundered the Laws from on high? Moses?? Whose finger was it that wrote it in stone? Moses??
How can apostles and Yeshua add to that which is already there and they kept?
Whose blood was shed to establish the New Covenant which FOREVER replaced that covenant and the laws and commandments upon which it was based? The blood of Moses?Who thundered the Laws from on high? Moses?? Whose finger was it that wrote it in stone? Moses?? Is Yeshua our Creator and Redeemer??
Creator..
Ex 2:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Redeemer...
Deut 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee. 13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day. How can apostles and Yeshua add to that which is already there and they kept?
Not by tradition (Jew) but by His conduct to show mercy, just and Faith. Every mankind must follow this core principles...(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.
Not by tradition (Jew) but by His conduct to show mercy, just and Faith. Every mankind must follow this core principles..
Faith is obedience... Romans 16, But Not to the law but Jesus Christ...He is the beginning and perfecter of Faith...You left out obedience to the law.
(CLV) Ac 24:14
"Yet I am avowing this to you, that, according to the way which they are terming a sect, thus am I offering divine service to the hereditary God, believing all that is written, according to the law and in the prophets,
(CLV) Ro 7:25
I thank God, through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Consequently, then, I myself, with the mind, indeed, am slaving for God's law, yet with the flesh for Sin's law.
(CLV) Ro 3:31
Are we, then, nullifying law through faith? May it not be coming to that! Nay, we are sustaining law.
(CLV) Ac 25:8
Paul defending that "Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the sanctuary, nor against Caesar did I any sin."
Sound familiar... Yep same Sabbath commandment found in the Decalogue.Whose blood was shed to establish the New Covenant which FOREVER replaced that covenant and the laws and commandments upon which it was based? The blood of Moses?
Leave the commandments in stone in the broken covenant where they belong.
Let God write His ONE commandment on your heart and put it in your mind through your faith in Christ - and when Jesus summed up God's ONE commandment, He said nothing about the sabbath.
Paul summed the commandment up also, and so did the apostle John.
Jesus told us how this comes about, that God would write His ONE commandment on your heart and put it in your mind - and it does not come about through your obedience to the sabbath law or ANY of those commandments given to Moses that you are talking about, which form the basis of the old covenant which was REPLACED FOREVER because they do nothing but show our sin up for what it is, show us up for what we are, and make us guilty before God - and bring us nothing but curses and death.
Hope that whoever reads this thread and does not miss this because it's something which all Christians should not overlook and should never ever forget:Exodus 31
12 YHWH said to Moshe, 13 Tell the people of Isra’el, ‘You are to observe my Shabbats; for this is a sign between me and you through all your generations; so that you will know that I am YHWH, who sets you apart for me. 17 It is a sign between me and the people of Isra’el forever; for in six days ADONAI made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day he stopped working and rested.’
SHABBAT SHALOM!
Jesus Christ is the God in the flesh who spoke to the children of Israel in Sinai through the angel....So christian worship a God who walk among men and dwell with them Not a God that is unapproachable and cannot be touched....Sound familiar... Yep same Sabbath commandment found in the Decalogue.
Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
The Ten Commandments (Hebrew: עֲשֶׂרֶת הַדִּבְּרוֹת, Aseret ha'Dibrot), also known as the Decalogue, are a set of biblical principles relating to ethics and worship, which play a fundamental role. The Ten Commandments appear twice in the Hebrew Bible: in the books of Exodus and Deuteronomy. The commandments include instructions to have no other gods before him, to honour one's parents, and to keep the sabbath day holy, as well as prohibitions against idolatry, blasphemy, murder, adultery, theft, dishonesty, and coveting. Some things never change.
. Let's see who this passage is for.Where does scripture say that the laws and commandments were replaced? Where does it say what they were replaced with? My bible says the law is forever.
Your witness doesn't pass the Deuteronomy 13 test, and should be stoned to death.
At least you agree that it is the same person who both spoke on Mount Sinai and walked among men.Jesus Christ is the God in the flesh who spoke to the children of Israel in Sinai through the angle....So christian worship a God who walk among men and dwell with them Not a God that is unapproachable and cannot be touched....
I read the entire Bible not just scattered proof texts. What did Jesus do after He said He was only sent to the house of Israel? What did Jesus do when the gentile woman asked Him to heal her daughter. What did Jesus do when the gentile centurion came to Him?I'm sorry. I thought that you knew who YHWH is and what he's done for his people. I thought that you understood that his covenant is with Israel. I thought that you knew that his son Yahshua was commissioned only for Israel. If someone has told you differently; that there is another way; then he is the deceiver; and he fails the Deuteronomy 13 test.
If you repeat his lies; then you become the deceiver.
Unlike you I read the entire Bible not just scattered proof texts.
בטח אל־יהוה בכל־לבך ואל־בינתך אל־תשׁען׃Maybe you should spend more time in the Torah. Them maybe you would have a better understanding of the whole Bible.
I'm rooting for you Brother!
I agree absolutely He was innocent in the eyes of God. The "laws" that He intentionally broke were man made laws.He was innocent, without guilt, never broke a law of God in His life. He never broke the Sabbath but explained it to those who had burden the law with traditional fences that took the heart and love out of the law.
Luke 13:15
The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
Luke 14:5
And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?
Exactly, read my posts and you will see that I am saying exactly what you are saying.Who are you a disciple of?
Jesus is our Sabbath. Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. How can the Lord of the Sabbath break the Sabbath? Jesus broke the faulty interpretation of the Sabbath of the Jewish leaders as He explained to them.
Nonsense...Faith is a philosophy for the Greeks, but for the Hebrews it was in the action and more than just words. In order to have faith in Yeshua, you need to believe that He was the one in OT before the incarnate leading the Israelites, on Mount Sinai giving the law to Moses, the leading fire through the desert, the one who visited Abraham, and walked Daniel's friends in the midst of the fire.Faith is obedience... Romans 16, But Not to the law but Jesus Christ...He is the beginning and perfecter of Faith...
Abraham had faith...faith comes by hearing the Word..Nonsense...Faith is a philosophy for the Greeks, but for the Hebrews it was in the action and more than just words. In order to have faith in Yeshua, you need to believe that He was the one in OT before the incarnate leading the Israelites, on Mount Sinai giving the law to Moses, the leading fire through the desert, the one who visited Abraham, and walked Daniel's friends in the midst of the fire.
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