Whatever Happened to Forever?

[Strong in Him]

Paul circumcised Timothy.

Paul circumcised Timothy because he wanted to take Timothy with him when he went to preach the Gospel in Lystra, and the Jews of that area knew that his father was Greek, Acts of the Apostles 16:1-3. He did it so that they would be accepted when they preached the Gospel to the Jews.
That doesn't mean that Gentile men have to be circumcised.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The Book of Revelation was written sometime around 96 CE.
Book Of Revelation | Apocalypse! FRONTLINE | PBS
Book of Revelation - Bible Survey | GotQuestions.org

I can provide scholars who say 60 something AD. You provide a statement with no evidence which I already know is sketchy. There is one “church father” (believer who lived 2 century or so), who wrote when John was exiled. He also wrote that Jesus died when he was 50 or something like that. Not a knowledgeable man.

 

[HARK!]

Except it was written in 60 something AD. When Jesus said SOON, he meant soon and not millennial later.

The book is commonly dated to about 95 AD, as suggested by clues in the visions pointing to the reign of the emperor Domitian.[9]

Book of Revelation - Wikipedia

 

[HARK!]

I can provide scholars who say 60 something AD.

Fringe.

 

[HARK!]

Pretty vague. Lots claim that one.

So you would agree that Yahshua's example defines obedience?

 

[HARK!]

Paul circumcised Timothy because he wanted to take Timothy with him when he went to preach the Gospel in Lystra, and the Jews of that area knew that his father was Greek, Acts of the Apostles 16:1-3. He did it so that they would be accepted when they preached the Gospel to the Jews.
That doesn't mean that Gentile men have to be circumcised.

So you would assert that this was Paul's decision and not Timothy's

 

[HARK!]

That doesn't mean that Gentile men have to be circumcised.

Timothy had been a Gentile.

 

[Minister Monardo]

This was addressed twice on page one. I'll address it once again, special, just for you.


New International Version
It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"

New Living Translation
It is a permanent sign of my covenant with the people of Israel. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day he stopped working and was refreshed.’”

English Standard Version
It is a sign forever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.’”

Berean Study Bible
It is a sign between Me and the Israelites forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, but on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’”

New American Standard Bible
"It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed."

New King James Version
It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’ ”

King James Bible
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Christian Standard Bible
It is a sign forever between me and the Israelites, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, but on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed."

Contemporary English Version
This day will always serve as a reminder, both to me and to the Israelites, that I made the heavens and the earth in six days, then on the seventh day I rested and relaxed.

Good News Translation
It is a permanent sign between the people of Israel and me, because I, the LORD, made heaven and earth in six days, and on the seventh day I stopped working and rested."

Holman Christian Standard Bible
It is a sign forever between Me and the Israelites, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, but on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed."

International Standard Version
It is a sign forever between me and the Israelis, because the LORD made the heavens and the earth in six days, but on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"

NET Bible
It is a sign between me and the Israelites forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"

New Heart English Bible
It is a sign between me and the people of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.'"

GOD'S WORD® Translation
It will be a permanent sign between me and the Israelites, because the LORD made heaven and earth in six days, and on the seventh day he stopped working and was refreshed.'"

JPS Tanakh 1917
It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel for ever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day He ceased from work and rested.'

New American Standard 1977
“It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed.”

King James 2000 Bible
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel forever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

American King James Version
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

American Standard Version
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days Jehovah made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
It is a perpetual covenant with me and the children of Israel, it is a perpetual sign with me; for in six days the Lord made the heaven and the earth, and on the seventh day he ceased, and rested.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Between me and the children of Israel, and a perpetual sign. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and in the seventh he ceased from work.

Darby Bible Translation
It shall be a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever; for [in] six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

English Revised Version
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Webster's Bible Translation
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.

World English Bible
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.'"

Hebrews 13:8. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever. Fulfilled in Him. Not everyone who calls out to me Lord, Lord, will be forever...

 

[HARK!]

(CLV) Hb 13:7
Be remembering those of your leaders whoa speak to you the word of God, contemplating the sequel of their behavior, whose faith be imitating.

Hebrews 13:8. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever. Fulfilled in Him. Not everyone who calls out to me Lord, Lord, will be forever...

Good one. The preceding verse brings this message into fullness.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The book is commonly dated to about 95 AD, as suggested by clues in the visions pointing to the reign of the emperor Domitian.[9]

Book of Revelation - Wikipedia

No, it is dated in 60 something. There is nothing that dates it to that caesar and internal evidence dates it to a younger author.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

So you would agree that Yahshua's example defines obedience?

You healing the sick, raising the dead, proving food from little?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Fringe.

Jesus was fringe too as well as 100% of the prophets of God.

 

[HARK!]

Jesus was fringe too as well as 100% of the prophets of God.

but they had the Torah to back them up.

 

[HARK!]

You healing the sick, raising the dead, proving food from little?

That doesn't answer the question.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

but they had the Torah to back them up.

Not according to the majority.

 

[HARK!]

No, it is dated in 60 something.

Not according to most scholars.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

That doesn't answer the question.

I asked you what obedient deeds of Jesus you do and this is your answer? Do you even know what obedience Jesus did?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Not according to most scholars.

Most scholars rejected Jesus and all the prophets of God in their lifetime.

 

[HARK!]

There is nothing that dates it to that caesar and internal evidence dates it to a younger author.

You would challenge the historians too?

This sounds sensational! Let's see your evidence.

 

[HARK!]

You healing the sick, raising the dead, proving food from little?

What does this have to do with obedience to YHWH's word? I'm sure there is a connection; but please explain this connection; as you introduced it to the discussion.