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What you think about 9/11 ?

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urnotme said:
I thought they were destroyed. Are you saying he works at the twin towers, what do you think happened?

No, my friend works at the Pentagon.

Do you really think that the family members of the people who died when that plane crashed would go along with such a conspiracy? :doh:
 
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Casiopeia said:
I personally think this thread should be closed. It is an insult to the people who lost their lives and their loved ones that day. You really shouldn't try to come here with things that are easily editted and faked. This is the Technology age where anyone can fake anything. So please...with respect for the dead...someone close this thread.

I agree.

We should all commend the photoshop geniuses and leave it at that.

I can use photoshop to make you believe Saddam really is a leprichaun if I really set my mind to it. All it takes is a wierd sense of humour, a vivid imagination and few nights in front of the computer.

It's pointless and a waste of time discussing it.
 
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TheListener said:
I agree.

We should all commend the photoshop geniuses and leave it at that.

I can use photoshop to make you believe Saddam really is a leprichaun if I really set my mind to it. All it takes is a wierd sense of humour, a vivid imagination and few nights in front of the computer.

It's pointless and a waste of time discussing it.

I also agree. It's a rather pointless thing to say that the plane never hit - because the plane's vanished then... because it didn't hit anywhere else
 
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Casiopeia said:
I personally think this thread should be closed. It is an insult to the people who lost their lives and their loved ones that day. You really shouldn't try to come here with things that are easily editted and faked. This is the Technology age where anyone can fake anything. So please...with respect for the dead...someone close this thread.

I disagree with you because that's what started war on terrorism and due to war on terrorism 100,000++ innocents have lost life and I am sure those who died in pentagon and world trade center didn't gave explicit permission to kill innocents and neither their family members. If what people are presenting is fake then present the real evidence instead of blindly believing that's fake and it's an insult to those who lost life.
 
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ravenscape said:
No, my friend works at the Pentagon.

Do you really think that the family members of the people who died when that plane crashed would go along with such a conspiracy? :doh:

Actually raven, that makes it even more of a point to blame others. In the past I was studying to be a Paralegal. I have studied case laws that were over turned from state supreme courts as to someone's innocents. I have even witnessed a family that wanted a gut to die for something he did not do and was proven without a shaddow of a doubt in his appeal that was reversed and sent back for retrial. Family dont care when it comes to someone who is close that died, as long as someone pays for their anguish.

Dont forget we lost brothers and sisters in those attacks. One sister of ours husband died in the Tower while she was pregnant and soon later had her baby that was the first baby to be born of teh victims of 9/11

Casiopeia said:
I personally think this thread should be closed. It is an insult to the people who lost their lives and their loved ones that day. You really shouldn't try to come here with things that are easily editted and faked. This is the Technology age where anyone can fake anything. So please...with respect for the dead...someone close this thread.


Actually I thing its more than just that you are complaining about. I did not violate any of the forums rules. If this closes it only because of American Patrionism
 
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Bookofknowledge said:
I disagree with you because that's what started war on terrorism and due to war on terrorism 100,000++ innocents have lost life and I am sure those who died in pentagon and world trade center didn't gave explicit permission to kill innocents and neither their family members. If what people are presenting is fake then present the real evidence instead of blindly believing that's fake and it's an insult to those who lost life.
Firstly, the matter of it being a fake or not has nothing to do with non-Christian religions - which is what this part of the forum is for.

Secondly the issue of whether it is a fake or not is a stumped by the question -where then is the plane that is 'supposed' to have crashed.

Thirdly, again you break your own rule on commenting on things on another country.
 
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Montalban said:
I also agree. It's a rather pointless thing to say that the plane never hit - because the plane's vanished then... because it didn't hit anywhere else

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Then the plane will make history as the first 60 TON plane to disapear in a poof
 
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ravenscape said:
Extremist suicide pilots and their helpers killed innocents in the US. It's simplistic to assert they started the war on terrorism.

No matter who started. According to the law no other person is punished for a crime which they didn't committed meaning one doesn't have the right to kill any innocent if they believe in justice.
 
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Oxy2Hydr0 said:
Actually raven, that makes it even more of a point to blame others. In the past I was studying to be a Paralegal. I have studied case laws that were over turned from state supreme courts as to someone's innocents. I have even witnessed a family that wanted a gut to die for something he did not do and was proven without a shaddow of a doubt in his appeal that was reversed and sent back for retrial. Family dont care when it comes to someone who is close that died, as long as someone pays for their anguish.

That's a broad and false generalization. There are organized groups of 9/11 victims who have protested efforts to justify the war in Iraq as a war on terrorism.

Dont forget we lost brothers and sisters in those attacks. One sister of ours husband died in the Tower while she was pregnant and soon later had her baby that was the first baby to be born of teh victims of 9/11

You have my sympathy for the loss of your family member.
 
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Oxy2Hydr0 said:


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Then the plane will make history as the first 60 TON plane to disapear in a poof

You saw the planes dissapear in a poof in the twin towers didn't you? What's more plausible, that there was a 3rd plane or coincidentally someone was planning something else on that day with a rocket too.

Still doesn't explain the 3rd hijacked aircraft going missing. 4th one we all know about.

Pointless discussion in a non-Christian religion forum. A waste of bytes on the database.
 
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Montalban said:
Firstly, the matter of it being a fake or not has nothing to do with non-Christian religions - which is what this part of the forum is for.

Secondly the issue of whether it is a fake or not is a stumped by the question -where then is the plane that is 'supposed' to have crashed.

Thirdly, again you break your own rule on commenting on things on another country.

Did the plane melted? :scratch:

justice my friend I am talking about justice according to the law of the country. I am questioning according to the law of US not some other country meaning I am within the legal boundries of US Justice hence I am not talking anything which they do not stand for or they don't believe - this gives me a right to communicate even if I am not a citizen of US.
 
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Bookofknowledge said:
Did the plane melted?
Where is the plane if it didn't crash? Four took-off, four were taken over by hostages, four crashed.

Even if this was not caused by 'the' hostage plane it would not negate the fact that three others were over-taken by Muslim terrorists.

In other words, its a very pathetic attempt by some to deny the undeniable. It's akin to arguing that there weren't 6,000,000 Jews killed, but more like 5,890,039.

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justice my friend I am talking about justice according to the law of the country. I am questioning according to the law of US not some other country meaning I am within the legal boundries of US Justice hence I am not talking anything which they do not stand for or they don't believe - this gives me a right to communicate even if I am not a citizen of US.

You say you come from southern India. You have berrated others for talking about issues of justice when that matter is in another country. Islam has one rule for Moslems, and one other for dhimmi. I appreciate you are just living by those constraints.
 
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Oxy2Hydr0 said:
:scratch: I would like to get some input on this http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main . Warning this is not muslim propaganda. Infact, one of my Christian friends sent this to me by Email. I already read tons of things on 9/11 and what really hit the pentagon, but this flash demo displays witness reports that say contrary to a plane. Lets see what you all think, state your opinions.
Just as much chance as Neil Armstrong actually landing on the moon.;)
 
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Ravenscape said:
That's a broad and false generalization. There are organized groups of 9/11 victims who have protested efforts to justify the war in Iraq as a war on terrorism.

I would agree, but not all of them feel as those who protest. I wasnt generalizing I was just showing human nature, how some people woudl be emotionally compelled to believe that these anti American Islamicists did it.

Do you know what happed to us were I lived and many Mosques in the USA after this issue ? Mostly our sister were targets of slander and asaults, even had their Hijabs ripped from their heads. Some of our mosques were vandalized. I mosque here received threats from unidentified locals. Also our Imam was followed home to his house with his 3 kids to find a white male with a shot gun putting it to his chest telling him he better not show up to an inter faith gathering. :mad:

Then to add the toping the christian propaganda using the 9/11 event to paint a picture of us which boosts he hatred among Americans.

This 9/11 issue woke the beast in us all to show the true colors of people.
 
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Montalban said:
Where is the plane if it didn't crash? Four took-off, four were taken over by hostages, four crashed.

Even if this was not caused by 'the' hostage plane it would not negate the fact that three others were over-taken by Muslim terrorists.

In other words, its a very pathetic attempt by some to deny the undeniable. It's akin to arguing that there weren't 6,000,000 Jews killed, but more like 5,890,039.

the question is what did really crashed and what is it they are claiming which gave them permission to go on war.

Truth doesn't hide for a long time, sooner or later there will be another president after president. May be down the road people view differently and research to solve what people are claiming now.


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You say you come from southern India. You have berrated others for talking about issues of justice when that matter is in another country. Islam has one rule for Moslems, and one other for dhimmi. I appreciate you are just living by those constraints.

Communicate according to the law of land and I will not have problem. The citizens of any country in this world have more facilities then non-citizens, research and compare that and I recommend people not to not live in ignorance by saying every individual have similar rights in each country.
 
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TheListener said:
You saw the planes dissapear in a poof in the twin towers didn't you? What's more plausible, that there was a 3rd plane or coincidentally someone was planning something else on that day with a rocket too.

Actually atleast they were able to get engine parts as debris from that. I have to problem with accepting two visable planes that left their prints in those building.

The issue is, the pentagon which cast doubt on the whole thing.

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Pointless discussion in a non-Christian religion forum. A waste of bytes on the database.

Oh indeed the point will come out, they have already began.
 
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I cant believe some of you are buying into this concpiracy. Its not like Washington was like, "Hey we just watched terrorists fly planes into the WTC and kill thousands of innocent people, so lets go put some explosives in the pentagon, kill some government officials, and start a war on terrorism." That makes absolutly no sence what so ever. This whole thread is insulting the thousands who died needlessly at the hands of terrorists, who America is working so valiently to stop as we speak. The least you could do is show a little respect.

Four planes take off, four are taken over, four crash. Its not like three crashed and this huge 747 lands at some airport after being taken over and the government hushes everyone up, arrests the terrorist and makes the plane dissapear.
 
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Bookofknowledge said:
the question is what did really crashed and what is it they are claiming which gave them permission to go on war.

Truth doesn't hide for a long time, sooner or later there will be another president after president. May be down the road people view differently and research to solve what people are claiming now.
First off, a truism. Yes, in America a president will succeed to another president. :)
Secondly you seem to be arguing against yourself here, talking about the 'truth' being revealed, but also people coming to view truth differently.

Thirdly, you ignore the fact that EVEN IF this plane did not crash - and you've still not accounted for where you think it ended up (especially as it contained a fair few people - this is sort of a "Capricorn One" movie scenario, only bigger), you've still got three other planes that did crash, and were caused by the terrorists.
Bookofknowledge said:
Communicate according to the law of land and I will not have problem.
I always have. You've always demonstrated a problem with this... excepting when YOU wanted to say something.
Bookofknowledge said:
The citizens of any country in this world have more facilities then non-citizens,
Who are the non-citizens of this world? ;)
Bookofknowledge said:
research and compare that and I recommend people not to not live in ignorance by saying every individual have similar rights in each country.
What's this got to do with anything is something no one knows - not even you seem to make sense of your own words.
 
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Montalban said:
First off, a truism. Yes, in America a president will succeed to another president. :)
Secondly you seem to be arguing against yourself here, talking about the 'truth' being revealed, but also people coming to view truth differently.

Thirdly, you ignore the fact that EVEN IF this plane did not crash - and you've still not accounted for where you think it ended up (especially as it contained a fair few people - this is sort of a "Capricorn One" movie scenario, only bigger), you've still got three other planes that did crash, and were caused by the terrorists.

I always have. You've always demonstrated a problem with this... excepting when YOU wanted to say something.

Who are the non-citizens of this world? ;)

What's this got to do with anything is something no one knows - not even you seem to make sense of your own words.

I advice you to discuss what I say with your friends before replying to me, I don't think you understand or even try to understand what I say here...example I said The citizens of any country in this world - you are asking me who are the non-citizens of this world.
 
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