admittedly, I don't have the same passion. Its that these 4 is special in a way that when I read the things I have, I go off.What about Pope Francis?
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admittedly, I don't have the same passion. Its that these 4 is special in a way that when I read the things I have, I go off.What about Pope Francis?
New world in which we live. Crazy town we're living in. I read in another thread, NOW we're bashin' The Passion movie. Now you know there was a time when that movie was made the all of us loved that movie. Protestants praised the bejesus out it. Now you know... this has gone way too far. Imma have to add The Passion movie to my list now. You can come for Mel, I don't care about him, but the movie? No. Don't come for that or I'll go off. .I agree with you
but I see it as kind of a backlash to how this forum can kind of be sometimes
there always seems to be a lot of criticism for things that are traditionally Catholic
any talk of Pope John Paul II brings up "well he should have done more about the sex abuse crisis, he was too rough on Catholic intellectuals, he should have been more inclusive to women"
and a similar laundry list of complaints when any Catholic figure is brought up
Pope Benedict XVI, St. Junipero Serra, Mother Teresa,
the list goes on about EVERYTHING
like every time devotion to the Blessed Mother is brought up at least one or two people feel the need to "warn" us not to go overboard
and several times very disparaging comments have been made about Latin American and Filipino Catholics and their devotion to the Blessed Mother that have sounded almost racist
like we are never allowed to just be happy Catholics
I am proud to be Catholic, I am proud of my Church
New world in which we live. Crazy town we're living in. I read in another thread, NOW we're bashin' The Passion movie. Now you know there was a time when that movie was made the all of us loved that movie. Protestants praised the bejesus out it. Now you know... this has gone way too far. Imma have to add The Passion movie to my list now. You can come for Mel, I don't care about him, but the movie? No. Don't come for that or I'll go off. .
Yeah well, ppl are nuts now days.Well there were some that called it torture porn from the onset. Add bipolar Mel to the mix and it is just politically incorrect to like it now.
Even a squirrel finds a nut once in a while.you are absolutely right. anyone who does know me from being around these parts knows these are my soft spots. There's so many new folk here, I thought we should clear up a few things and get a few things straight. You don't come for these. and yeah, often ppl wanna come for them.
Yeah well, ppl are nuts now days.
I saw some FB posts - and i have a tremendous headache - so i'm not about to go into something that might cause me stress.Read the Springsteen thread.
Yes. You mentioned that earlier.You come for the 4 I mentioned, yeah, it'll go down. Don't do it and we'll be good.
Most ppl are fickle.New world in which we live. Crazy town we're living in. I read in another thread, NOW we're bashin' The Passion movie. Now you know there was a time when that movie was made the all of us loved that movie. Protestants praised the bejesus out it. Now you know... this has gone way too far. Imma have to add The Passion movie to my list now. You can come for Mel, I don't care about him, but the movie? No. Don't come for that or I'll go off. .
good word usage "translated to Heaven"
most Catholics would not be familiar with that term, we normally use the term "assumed into heaven"
though "translated" would be the term used by scholars of comparative religions I believe?
anyways, it is not directly stated in the Bible
I would say that the book of Revelations points to Mary being taken up into Heaven
there is "the Woman" of Revelation 12, some people think that Woman is a reference to nation of Israel, but that does not really fit the rest of the narrative of that chapter.
for example, the Woman gives birth to a Child and there is the Red Dragon and Michael
ok well the Child is Jesus, the Red Dragon is the Devil, and Michael is Michael..... so each of the other figures represent individuals, not entire nations, not vague concepts, but individuals
so it makes sense that the Woman who is crowned and put above the moon is Mary
so this is not directly stated in the Bible
but it has been a teaching of the Church from early times
also, being taken up into heaven is VERY uncommon, but it is not unprecedented
we have Enoch and Elijah as examples of God doing that for His servants
Herod sought to kill the Child in Bethlehem, yet they escaped his wrath.
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Never mind. This post was an explanation of thE one quoted above. I thought I had failed to copy what it was in response to. Then I remembered that I just discovered the ignore feature, so it may have been invisible to me.Yes. You mentioned that earlier.