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I'm sorry to hear that but you came out refined.
Oh yes I am doing much much better and still working on the hubbys spirituality, but it's coming and I know it.

Were you homeless? Did you stay in like a homeless shelter?
We actually stayed in a tent for a while and then finally moved into a motel room once he was employed.

Would you agree?
Sometimes that is what God is looking for, the moment you realize that it is all HIM and nothing else, that's when He proves His love and care for you when you put everything in His hands. And yes even though our parents love us dearly, there gets a point when enough is enough and they can't help you anymore no matter what.

''ENOUGH,'' and to man-up and be 100 percent financially
If you truly feel like God is leading you this way and you've prayed about it, then I would say go for it, like you said to humble yourself and allow the Lord to work in your life. Get a job and start saving, applying yourself to His Plan. You may not see every step, but at least you would be taking the first one.

What are some blessings you've received as a result of these mistakes?
Everything has been internal, I've grown to fear nothing and not let anything move me or shake me. What I learned within 10 years may sometimes take a lifetime for others, so the quicker you apply yourself to learning, the better. Here in my county, our church has something called Place of Grace and its for men to get back on their feet, maybe you could check around your local churches and see if they have anything similar to this? I will definitely be praying for you and for direction.
 
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All that I have suffered over the years has brought me to this most beautiful place in the LORD. The only thing I wish I had done differently...listen to the LORD at his rebuffs, learn quicker from the trial he placed before me and really seek HIM on what it truly means to take every thought captive...because from the vantage point He has brought me to, I can see that was the biggest culprit. Jesus said, "Take no thought..."for a very BIG reason. Much suffering could have been avoided if I had truly sought the meaning of those few words.

Thanks for this. When you say ''all that I have suffered'', did your suffering come from like sins and lifestyle choices or from just mishappenings in life against your will? And how did those things bring you to a beautiful place in the Lord?
 
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Get a job and start saving, applying yourself to His Plan. You may not see every step, but at least you would be taking the first one.

Everything has been internal, I've grown to fear nothing and not let anything move me or shake me. What I learned within 10 years may sometimes take a lifetime for others, so the quicker you apply yourself to learning, the better. Here in my county, our church has something called Place of Grace and its for men to get back on their feet, maybe you could check around your local churches and see if they have anything similar to this? I will definitely be praying for you and for direction.

Thats good about your hubby, my family are athiests and I am praying like crazy for them too... my grandparents are still alive and athiests and I am praying for them too, they are almost in their 90's and I am praying for the opportunity to share Jesus with them. It breaks my heart that they do not believe in God at their age.

That internal blessing is what I am after. I am going through some heavy trials because I am pressing into the Lord and I need those internal blessings. You see, as much as I love God I just can't bring myself to fully submit to Him yet, my own stubbornness scares me... I have good understanding of Him but my something inside me just won't submit and I am begging God to give me an obedient heart because I don't have it right now... I can't put a finger on what inside me is holding back from God because I love His spirit and goodness, it brings me to tears like a little child often.... but the darkness of the world just really bothers me and causes me to shut down... I'm hoping this is a immature youthful attitude that I will grow out of. Were you kind of immature like that when you were younger? That's awesome that you do not fear anything and nothing shakes you, oh how I long for that....

That program sounds great, there are lots of things like that around here. There is something called a ''rescue mission'' by me which is Christian based and helps people get back on their feet.
 
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This question is for those with a little age and experience in life, those people that have been there, done that and got the T-shirt. I am in my 40's, and I am interested in ANY wisdom given, I wanna treasure and make use of every day of my life to the fullest. What would you tell your 40 something-year-old self if you could turn back time? Doesn't matter what it is, or what it's about, what would you tell yourself? Are there any life changes you would warn yourself to make right now?

  • Cherish every day as if it is your last. You will never get this moment back again, so make sure you are doing what you truly want.
  • This too shall pass!--The high's and low's of life are transient. Be humble about successes. Have hope when things look dim. Change will always come.
  • Work at having an attitude of gratitude. Make time to mentally list or pray thanks for the small stuff. It will change how you see the world. Honestly, since you know how hard and painful the world can be, you more than others should appreciate peace and beauty, even in the small things.
  • Know what you can survive. Realize that you can get through a lot worse than you think, especially with God's help and the love of your family. You really don't need all that stuff that you think you need. :)
  • Be realistic -- things are harder than you like to think they are, and you get into trouble starting things and bail on them when you get overwhelmed. Instead, face the fact that things are going to be more complex, take more work, and take longer than they seem at first.
  • Don't knock boring times. Turmoil is awful and it's always right around the corner. No news is good news. Life is much better without drama.
  • Be aware how foolish human beings are. Even the smart ones. Enough said.
  • Laugh at yourself! :) Don't take your own flaws so seriously.
  • Say please, thank you, and if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all. IOW, be polite.
  • Love yourself as you are, and aspire to be who you can become.
  • Forgive, forgive, forgive. Others AND yourself. Most hurt is not deliberate.
  • Don't waste time on regret. Error, even large error, is just part of being human.
  • Don't envy. There are good reasons why you don't have more. And honestly, there are burdens and unhappiness that come from being filthy rich. Happiness is not dependent upon what you have -- it comes from within.
 
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Thanks for this. When you say ''all that I have suffered'', did your suffering come from like sins and lifestyle choices or from just mishappenings in life against your will? And how did those things bring you to a beautiful place in the Lord?
I grew up in an abusive home with no real love, though had most all money could buy. This brought me to the Lord until age 16 when I turned my back on HIM because all my prayers for my parents to be saved were to no avail. Though I left church, I still held on to a speck of faith but didn't serve HIM with all my heart.

I ended up marrying by age 19 an abusive man who drank too much. Though most would have ran from this, because of my upbringing, it seemed normal, I guess. Many ups and mostly downs that included miscarriages, being homeless at one point, cancer at age 35 and many struggles because I chose not the way of the LORD, though I knew the difference...though through all of this, many times I cried out to HIM and would always pray...but never turned fully to HIM...until I was 44.

I turned to him with all my heart, mind, body and soul and still suffered...like a heart attack at age 45...a son (adopted) with a developmental delay I began to study my bible and couldn't get enough of the words on those pages. I learned so much and began to do things HIS way and still I suffered many things...as I was still married to the same man and he was an atheist. Divorce was out of the question because it was against God's way, and so I continued to endure, but searched the scriptures all there was to know about being a godly wife to an ungodly man. I learned God's requirements and began to walk in that way, then great things began to happen.

When I began walking in such a way and praying according to scripture (I studied "faith" and "prayer" inside out!) peace entered my household and eventually, my husband came to know the Lord without me having to say a word...but by the testimony the LORD gave me in how I conducted myself...my actions. And though there were still many trials and tribulations for a time, I saw them in a different light as I knew that God chastens every son and that "ALL THINGS work together for good" for those who love and serve HIM. I learned to be happy in all my circumstances because I knew God has a purpose and plan and it was for my good. Believing that with all my heart, HE flooded me with a peace and joy that passed all human comprehension and HE began to fulfill the promises contained in scripture.

It was all those things that I suffered that kept me seeking in scripture what to do in order to receive the promises of LOVE, peace and joy. This place HE has brought is ALL of that...especially LOVE that is nothing like I have ever known. So, all those things I suffered my whole life, brought me to this place where the 'flesh' and contrary ways to HIM have been burned out and replaced by the fruit of HIS spirit as promised.

The sufferings of Job...I knew them well...but enduring them in faith brought about transformation by the power of God that translated me out of darkness and into His marvelous LIGHT...the key is to BELIEVE it is true or it will never happen.
 
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my family are athiests and I am praying like crazy for them too
Keep praying

Were you kind of immature like that when you were younger?
Actually no I was wise beyond my years, so I suppose that 10 year period was my heart n mind going back to immature ways, BIG MISTAKE, but learned ALOT!!!

''rescue mission''
Cool you should try them

By the way, this thread is awesome
I know, all these people are inspiring me and I wanna hear more :heart:

pray thanks for the small stuff.
You got that right, even down to the toilet paper

Realize that you can get through a lot worse than you think
So true, many times I've thought I couldn't take anymore, to find out, OH yes I can :clapping:

Life is much better without drama
That is big truth, NO DRAMA

Love yourself as you are
This part took me the longest and I "think" I'm just about there, we shall see o_O

Most hurt is not deliberate
This is something to constantly remind yourself, it's not the person, it's the spirit behind them

my husband came to know the Lord without me having to say a word
:cheer:

ALL THINGS work together for good
Yes they do even though we may not see it at the time

The sufferings of Job...I knew them well...but enduring them in faith brought about transformation by the power of God
I so enjoyed your testimony, brought tears to my eyes, thank you :heartpulse:
 
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Oh, Lawdy I'm 44 you acting like you about to dissipate into thin air. See, I probably wouldn't listen to me either, I don't know if you know, but I am very very head strong, since birth. But that's the good news now, I'm in my forties and I'm ready to listen :clap:

GF, no one could tell me anything either, and so you are way ahead right now!

Gee, I'd tell myself what love is according to God and learn and to memorize that and find a safe place to dwell, away from a violent husband who fell into alcoholism and refused any and all help for years, until he basically committed suicide from it.

Love is NOT hanging in there for years taking beat downs and emotional terrorism because that is what God wanted me to do. I had it wrong.

Love is not toxic and hateful and abusive and controlling.

Love would have been to leave.

but you couldn't tell me that I was headstrong!
 
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GF, no one could tell me anything either, and so you are way ahead right now!

Gee, I'd tell myself what love is according to God and learn and to memorize that and find a safe place to dwell, away from a violent husband who fell into alcoholism and refused any and all help for years, until he basically committed suicide from it.

Love is NOT hanging in there for years taking beat downs and emotional terrorism because that is what God wanted me to do. I had it wrong.

Love is not toxic and hateful and abusive and controlling.

Love would have been to leave.

but you couldn't tell me that I was headstrong!

PS-Listen to that still small voice inside of your gut. Take action when it keeps pulling at you even screaming at you to do something.

SO TRUE !!!

 
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Focus on relationships
  1. God: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.
    • Scripture, Prayer, Worship, Fellowship
  2. Family: Spouse, Children, Parents, Siblings, Grandparents, Aunts/Uncles, Cousins, ...
    • focus time, talent, and resources on each one according to their needs
  3. Community: missions, service
    • volunteer helping homeless, hungry, foster parent
These are my initial thoughts. If I can add to this I will edit later...
Agree but
Add go on mission trips and stay faithful to your congregation - serve and attend.
Learn to worship - in private - at church - while testifying - in tragedy - while reading the Bible - and in prayer
 
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Sorry, it took so long for me to respond. Got kinda busy :)

Welp, long story really really short version.

You asked,
What would you tell your 40 something-year-old self if you could turn back time?

After reading your responses, especially to WilliamBo, it seems you have learned the lessons of the Lord - brought your family through - and are among the wisest in the Lord. Very glad you asked the question because the responses have been a blessing. But you may be the better equipped to answer your own question for the benefit of the rest of us. So, I ask you, "What would you tell your 40 something-year-old self if you could turn back time?"
 
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Thats good about your hubby, my family are athiests and I am praying like crazy for them too... my grandparents are still alive and athiests and I am praying for them too, they are almost in their 90's and I am praying for the opportunity to share Jesus with them. It breaks my heart that they do not believe in God at their age.

That internal blessing is what I am after. I am going through some heavy trials because I am pressing into the Lord and I need those internal blessings. You see, as much as I love God I just can't bring myself to fully submit to Him yet, my own stubbornness scares me... I have good understanding of Him but my something inside me just won't submit and I am begging God to give me an obedient heart because I don't have it right now... I can't put a finger on what inside me is holding back from God because I love His spirit and goodness, it brings me to tears like a little child often.... but the darkness of the world just really bothers me and causes me to shut down... I'm hoping this is a immature youthful attitude that I will grow out of. Were you kind of immature like that when you were younger? That's awesome that you do not fear anything and nothing shakes you, oh how I long for that....

That program sounds great, there are lots of things like that around here. There is something called a ''rescue mission'' by me which is Christian based and helps people get back on their feet.
Yes - been there. Some of us are so self willed the surrender is the toughest part.

Where Do I Stand?

It is the longest of journeys
But only a step away.

Everyone could make it,
But only a few will try.

No one can afford the cost,
But everyone has the price to go.

No one knows the path
But everyone can know the way.

It is an impossible demand
But is possible for a little child.

It is the hardest of fights
But requires no struggle.

It demands unconditional surrender
But provides complete victory.

All must be left behind,
But all there is, is gained.

No one can take this journey with me,
But it cannot be made alone.

This journey will cause my death,
But because of this journey I will live.

I stand looking at one who has died,
As he calls me to my death.

At the foot of the Cross of Christ
I see the cross he has for me.

I hear him as he pleads,
"Pick up your cross and follow me."

From the foot of the Cross
It is only a step away.

I wore a trench around the foot of the Cross.
That one step is the longest journey for some believers.
while a mystical flight for others.
After repeated attempts and by different processes, I gave up.
Finally, the time came when I was so desperate nothing else mattered.
Life was no longer worth living without fulling trusting in the Lord Jesus.
It became for me desperate trust - a trust that is a must for me.
Evidence, faith, experience, knowledge, blessings, answered prayers, divine presence, Holy Ghost guidance, a second blessing - nothing would ever supersede plain, old abandonment, to trusting Him regardless - a desperate and necessary trust. It is all about trusting the Lord Jesus and nothing about me or my spiritual life. I am the unimportant element of this relationship.
 
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You asked,
What would you tell your 40 something-year-old self if you could turn back time?

After reading your responses, especially to WilliamBo, it seems you have learned the lessons of the Lord - brought your family through - and are among the wisest in the Lord. Very glad you asked the question because the responses have been a blessing. But you may be the better equipped to answer your own question for the benefit of the rest of us. So, I ask you, "What would you tell your 40 something-year-old self if you could turn back time?"
You are too kind, thank you and God bless you. Although I don't feel we are ever at the place we should be, so we are to seek Him and the higher calling placed upon us, to continually grow in Him.
 
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How about forgive...those that don't think this is a big one have never had much to forgive, so forgive always even if you feel the one you need to forgive is God...along with that goes James 1:19 My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry,

With over a thousand passages that talk about listening it is not taught nor practiced nearly enough.
This is a good verse from James!

James is an Epistle that seems often to be overlooked.
 
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Yes - been there. Some of us are so self willed the surrender is the toughest part.

It is the longest of journeys
But only a step away.

Yes, I feel like God is training me to ''erase'' certain beliefs, behaviors, and attitudes from the past. I get really nervous that I will give up and not surrender to God, I get really unsure of myself about it. The full surrender is the hardest part, I try so hard to surrender but there's junk inside me that just won't let it happen and I don't understand why, I feel like I can't trust myself. I want God to give me peace and for life to just make sense, and for me to be at peace living for HIM in this dying world
 
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Yes, I feel like God is training me to ''erase'' certain beliefs, behaviors, and attitudes from the past. I get really nervous that I will give up and not surrender to God, I get really unsure of myself about it. The full surrender is the hardest part, I try so hard to surrender but there's junk inside me that just won't let it happen and I don't understand why, I feel like I can't trust myself. I want God to give me peace and for life to just make sense, and for me to be at peace living in this dying world

WilliamBo wrote, "I feel like I can't trust myself."
Reply: You are right, none of us are trustworthy. Part of fully surrender is to trust only in the Lord and know yourself for what you are. You are just hardheaded.

WilliamBo wrote, "I get really nervous that I will give up and not surrender to God, I get really unsure of myself about it."
Reply: Don't care what you believe about eternal security or perseverance of the saints. The best news ever, if you are of the elect, whatever elect means, the Holy Spirit is the hound of heaven, and He will hunt you down and drag you back yelling and screaming until it is so painful you submit. Then and only then, will God give you peace.

Your prayer is a little different but expresses the same emotions I had for many, many years. Here it is: "Lord, I am so selfish, full of pride, and unholy thoughts I can never surrender all to you. I can never crucify myself. So, just make me surrender. Take away my will and make me your slave. Make me do what you want me to do."

I probably prayed this ten plus times daily, off and on for over twenty years without getting one step closer to the Lord or finding peace. In those nearly 30 years I gave up multiple times. The Hound of Heaven kept on keeping on - dragging me back to smell the fragrance of His Holiness while causing tribulation in my soul.

The best news ever is that God always wins this fight and you will submit. Just a matter of time my brother. So, go head,
yell,
scream,
deny,
quit,
rebel,
try to stop believing,
stay away from your congregation,
don't serve,
quit reading the Bible,
quit praying,
shake your fist at the clouds,
go without food,
pray all day and night,
read all four gospels every day for forty days in a row,
do your very best to be like Jesus,
try Lordship salvation,
second blessing of perfection,
second blessing of baptism in the Holy Spirit,
give all that you have away,
get a degree form a theological seminary,
serve as a minister 18 hours a day for 7 days a week,
officiate over 300 funerals,
confess to those closest to you that you don't really believe because you don't surrender all and live the spiritual life necessary for sanctification.

I did all of this. Guess what? In my life God still won the fight.
 
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WilliamBo wrote, "I feel like I can't trust myself."
Reply: You are right, none of us are trustworthy. Part of fully surrender is to trust only in the Lord and know yourself for what you are. You are just hardheaded.

WilliamBo wrote, "I get really nervous that I will give up and not surrender to God, I get really unsure of myself about it."
Reply: Don't care what you believe about eternal security or perseverance of the saints. The best news ever, if you are of the elect, whatever elect means, the Holy Spirit is the hound of heaven, and He will hunt you down and drag you back yelling and screaming until it is so painful you submit. Then and only then, will God give you peace.

Your prayer is a little different but expresses the same emotions I had for many, many years. Here it is: "Lord, I am so selfish, full of pride, and unholy thoughts I can never surrender all to you. I can never crucify myself. So, just make me surrender. Take away my will and make me your slave. Make me do what you want me to do."

I probably prayed this ten plus times daily, of and on for over twenty years without getting one step closer to the Lord or finding peace. In those 30 years I gave up multiple times. The Hound of Heaven kept on keeping on - dragging me back to smell the fragrance of His Holiness while causing tribulation in my soul.

The best news ever is that God always wins this fight and you will submit. Just a matter of time my brother. So, go head,
yell,
scream,
deny,
quit,
rebel,
try to stop believing,
stay away from your congregation,
don't serve,
quit reading the Bible,
quite praying,
shake your fist at the clouds,
go without food, pray all day and night,
read all four gospels every day for forty days in a row,
do your very best to be like Jesus,
try Lordship salvation,
second blessing of perfection,
second blessing of baptism in the Holy Spirit,
give all that you away,
get a degree form a theological seminary,
serve as a minister 18 hours a day fro 7 days a week,
officiate over 300 funerals,
confess to those closest to you that you don't really believe.

I did all of this. Guess what? In my life God still won the fight.
I like your style and I love your testimony, keep at it :clap:
 
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The best news ever is that God always wins this fight and you will submit. Just a matter of time my brother. So, go head,
yell,
scream,
deny,
quit,
rebel,
I did all of this. Guess what? In my life God still won the fight.

That's a really great illustration, thanks for that, I will keep all that in mind. It's encouraging to know God will chase me down like that. My biggest concern I guess is giving into the 'majority' of the world on the broad road to destruction... I know the road to life is very narrow like it says in Matthew. Do you feel that you ever fully surrendered to God? Do you feel that your life now is in full surrender?
 
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That's a really great illustration, thanks for that, I will keep all that in mind. It's encouraging to know God will chase me down like that. My biggest concern I guess is giving into the 'majority' of the world on the broad road to destruction... I know the road to life is very narrow like it says in Matthew. Do you feel that you ever fully surrendered to God? Do you feel that your life now is in full surrender?

No, not fully surrendered by what I understand it means to follow Christ.
I am a poor example of a believer.
I often judge myself in how I measure up to the walk in Christ of the believers I admire.
They make it look so easy.

But I did surrender with my will, my commitment, and mainly my trust.
Actually, I just gave up.
As said before, mine is a desperate and necessary trust.
Faith doesn’t come close to expressing my trust.
Faith is something you believe.
While for me,
trust is something you do.

I have to trust because, otherwise, my life would be one of utter desolation.
Trusting God regardless provides extreme gratitude and peace.

I guess I became a blind fundamentalist in believing no matter what.
The world’s truth is not allowed to park in my mind – regardless of the facts.
Only what I believe about God is allowed to reside in my mind.
Doubting and worldly things are just too painful and scary to me.
I block such garbage from entering – from TV, reading, hearing, seeing, and thinking.
Back in January I read a conservative commentary on Genesis. I was surprised at how liberal it seemed to me. Forty years ago it would not have been an issue for me.

I recommend this next book with some apprehension. It took me five tries over four years before I could get past the first ninety pages or so. I could not continue reading because of the strong conviction I would have at how inadequate I was at being a disciple. In a large part, along with the gospels, it is this book that defined for me discipleship.

Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Quotes from this book.

“When Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die.”

“If any man would come after me, let him deny himself." The disciple must say to himself the same words Peter said of Christ when he denied him: "I know not this man." Self-denial is never just a series of isolated acts of mortification or asceticism. It is not suicide, for there is an element of self-will even in that. To deny oneself is to be aware only of Christ and no more of self, to see only him who goes before and no more the road which is too hard for us. Once more, all that self denial can say is: "He leads the way, keep close to him.”

“The earthly form of Christ is the form that died on the cross. The image of God is the image of Christ crucified. It is to this image that the life of the disciples must be conformed; in other words, they must be conformed to his death (Phil 3.10, Rom 6.4) The Christian life is a life of crucifixion (Gal 2.19) In baptism the form of Christ's death is impressed upon his own. They are dead to the flesh and to sin, they are dead to the world, and the world is dead to them (Gal 6.14). Anybody living in the strength of Christ's baptism lives in the strength of Christ's death.”

“[God says] Discipleship is not limited to what you can comprehend -
it must transcend all comprehension.
Plunge into the deep waters beyond your own comprehension, and I will help you to comprehend even as I do.
Bewilderment is the true comprehension.
Not to know where you are going is the true knowledge.
My comprehension transcends yours.”

“In the New Testament our enemies are those who harbour hostility against us, not those against whom we cherish hostility, for Jesus refuses to reckon with such a possibility. The Christian must treat his enemy as a brother, and requite his hostility with love. His (Christian) behaviour must be determined not by the way others treat him, but by the treatment he himself receives from Jesus; it has only one source, and that is the will of Jesus.”

“To be called to a life of extraordinary quality, to live up to it, and yet to be unconscious of it is indeed a narrow way. To confess and testify to the truth as it is in Jesus, and at the same time to love the enemies of that truth, his enemies and ours, and to love them with the infinite love of Jesus Christ, is indeed a narrow way. To believe the promise of Jesus that his followers shall possess the earth, and at the same time to face our enemies unarmed and defenceless, preferring to incur injustice rather than to do wrong ourselves, is indeed a narrow way. To see the weakness and wrong in others, and at the same time refrain from judging them; to deliver the gospel message without casting pearls before swine, is indeed a narrow way. The way is unutterably hard, and at every moment we are in danger of straying from it. If we regard this way as one we follow in obedience to an external command, if we are afraid of ourselves all the time, it is indeed an impossible way. But if we behold Jesus Christ going on before step by step, we shall not go astray.”
 
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