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If the content is wrong then the validity is also in doubt so you decide, does the N/T give a true account of what Jesus is supposed to have said or not? I think not.
So, if God created the universe, then the creation of the universe is something that can be explained by science. And if it can be explained by science rather than religion, than why is a God required for it at all?
okay, to take a very simple example.
sodium and chlorine.
you bring these two elements together and you get salt.
no intelligence involved.
You are the one who believes the Bible is true and accurate so you tell me.That's only an issue if the words are accurately recorded.
So is that your premise?
Since I obviously haven't done that, perhaps you can give an example of something that would falsify creationism?
Except if it was made by something that also did not exist, does that really makes sense to you?It is needed, because the laws of cause and effect require that "something" may not come from "nothing".
Of course you're not and we would expect nothing less.It is not hard at all to come up with some. I am not going to do it for you for your benefit.
Except if it was made by something that also did not exist, does that really makes sense to you?
So god could not create an object he could not lift in the same way that an I moveable object cannot exists in a universe with an irresistible force.
Basically my intent was to say that any eventuality in the universe could be described as "yeah, goddidit".
Appearance of age in the universe? Goddidit.
Nested hierarchies? Goddidit.
Any evidence we uncover about anything in the future about anything?
Yeah, God did that, too.
It's an intellectual dead end.
Well, presuming that the gospels accurately convey what he said, he didn't say a "rapture" would happen in their lifetime.You missed the whole idea of the conversation, either that or you deliberately changed it to fall in with what you want to believe.
It seems you not only see what you want to see you have the ability to make even that mean what ever you want it to mean.
People have been promised the rapture for at least two millennium so what makes you think it's going to happen in your lifetime? even Jesus lied [if he was a god he must have known] when he told people it would come in their lifetime.
Although saying that, no one knows exactly what Jesus said or didn't say because everything in the bible he is supposed to have said is only hearsay, unless you know something no one else knows.
Are you honestly trying to tell us that you think just because you believe in your God you can claim anything that happens in this universe is all because of your God? what other irrational things do you believe.Then how did you figure that out? And who engineered the ability for them to combine?
Imagine if no chemicals, in this particular bubble of reality, combined together.
Wouldn't that be a hoot?
So god could not create an object he could not lift in the same way that an I moveable object cannot exists in a universe with an irresistible force.
Are you honestly trying to tell us that you think just because you believe in your God you can claim anything that happens in this universe is all because of your God? what other irrational things do you believe.
Well, presuming that the gospels accurately convey what he said, he didn't say a "rapture" would happen in their lifetime.
That's because it was not called the "rapture" then, they were supposedly told the world would end in their lifetime.Well, presuming that the gospels accurately convey what he said, he didn't say a "rapture" would happen in their lifetime.
Why? they also got a lot of other thing wrong as well, don't forget the writers of the bible were writing for the people of that time not ours, people believed in Ghosts and Demons and would believe all the magic they were told about really happened,The idea that the words are both put into his mouth and say that seem more than a little far fetched given how close to the end of "their lifetime" the gospels were written. If someone is making up a prediction after the event the usually make one up that's accurate.
No, they weren't.That's because it was not called the "rapture" then, they were supposedly told the world would end in their lifetime.
Nevertheless, you don't write x will happen by date y, after date y, and pick an x that didn't happen.Why? they also got a lot of other thing wrong as well, don't forget the writers of the bible were writing for the people of that time not ours, people believed in Ghosts and Demons then and would believe all the magic they were told about really happened, a bit like some of the people in darkest America today 2000 years later.
God is all "Light" which cancels out all dark.
Can God go "dark"? No.
Some things are what they are by the nature of themselves.
Some people then were not gullible it's true but 95 percent of them were, the vast majority of people were illiterate peasants and would believe anything they were told because they were so unknowing they knew no better, remember all they had was word of mouth, they were born, lived and died in the same place, if they had never been over the hill in the distance they believed what ever they were told about what was on the other side, they believed what they were told, what else could they do?And first century people weren't nearly as gullible as modern arrogance assumes.
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