What we see in PA or how to win as a Democrat

[Go Braves]

Well the Republican candidate resorted to really dumb propagandistic junk to try to win the Trump base. Glad there were folks who didn't take the bait.

 

[PeachyKeane]

I think the GOP and others have forgotten the moderate 'Blue Dog' democrats.

If only there were moderate Republicans...tsk.

Anyway, seems like John Kasich may have a market afterall

 

[Rion]

How so? I think corporate America is very much on their radar.

You do realize that Hillary was the corporate candidate last time around, right? Democrats like to pretend they are not as cozy as the Republicans with big business, but it's just that the Republicans flaunt said connection, while Democrats like to have a "Public" and "private" position.

The difference between Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs is surprisingly small.

 

[Hank77]

You do realize that Hillary was the corporate candidate last time around, right? Democrats like to pretend they are not as cozy as the Republicans with big business, but it's just that the Republicans flaunt said connection, while Democrats like to have a "Public" and "private" position.

The difference between Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs is surprisingly small.

That being true, what the Democrats have not forgotten was not relevant to my post.

 

[variant]

Im not sure who won, but it is interesting to see Lambs platform that brought him so much support.

1. Pro Life
2. Support Second Amendment
3. Support American Steel industry
4. Distance yourself from Pelosi and DNC leadership.

Seems to be a winning combination.

You mean that is what wins in western PA where Trump won by 20%?

If you are a Republican in such an area I would also suggest not running an anti-union campaign. The Republicans of the area have always been smart enough to at the very least, pay lip service to union issues out there.

 

[variant]

You do realize that Hillary was the corporate candidate last time around, right? Democrats like to pretend they are not as cozy as the Republicans with big business, but it's just that the Republicans flaunt said connection, while Democrats like to have a "Public" and "private" position.

The difference between Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs is surprisingly small.

Legislatively the only thing Trump has accomplished is a large corporate tax cut and trying to get Judges that the Koch brothers want in the judiciary.

 

[Rion]

Legislatively the only thing Trump has accomplished is a large corporate tax cut and trying to get Judges that the Koch brothers want in the judiciary.

That has nothing to do with my post, but okay.

 

[variant]

That has nothing to do with my post, but okay.

Saying there's not much difference between democrats and republicans in terms of corporate stoogery is easily countered with what republicans actually do when in office.

 

[Rion]

Saying there's not much difference between democrats and republicans in terms of corporate stoogery is easily countered with what republicans actually do when in office.

As opposed to what Democrats do?

 

[variant]

As opposed to what Democrats do?

Yeah, I don't think they were going to cut the corporate tax rates, rip up environmental regulations and do their best to remove net neutrality.

 

[Rion]

Yeah, I don't think they were going to cut the corporate tax rates, rip up environmental regulations and do their best to remove net neutrality.

Depends upon the corporations. Hillary, after all, assured Goldman Sachs that her private position was far different from her public one.

 

[variant]

Depends upon the corporations. Hillary, after all, assured Goldman Sachs that her private position was far different from her public one.

The difference is how the government acts. I don't care what people "believe" or say.

 

[Rion]

The difference is how the government acts. I don't care what people "believe" or say.

Then you were obviously upset with the corporations that the Democrats regularly benefit in their tax bills, by excluding them from tax increases.

 

[revanneosl]

OP misspelled "Pro Choice"

 

[variant]

Then you were obviously upset with the corporations that the Democrats regularly benefit in their tax bills, by excluding them from tax increases.

Yes. That's the sort of thing that leads to the estate system like in France before the french revolution.

However. You're missing the difference here. Democrats are often corrupt. Republicans run as the open stooges of big business and the champions of this sort of corruption, matched by no one outside of Russian (and other) oligarchs.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Well the Republican candidate resorted to really dumb propagandistic junk to try to win the Trump base. Glad there were folks who didn't take the bait.

Since you're a conservative, Go Braves, and not a Trump supporter (much respect for that), do you think this win by a Democrat is the beginning of a backlash against Trump and his supporters? I'm asking you because (1) You're a conservative and not a Trump supporter, and (2) I think I will get a more sensible answer from you since you're not a Trump supporter. I'm not trying to put you on the spot here. I'm honestly curious to know what you think. Thanks, in advance, for your reply.

 

[cow451]

Im not sure who won, but it is interesting to see Lambs platform that brought him so much support.

1. Pro Life
2. Support Second Amendment
3. Support American Steel industry
4. Distance yourself from Pelosi and DNC leadership.

Seems to be a winning combination.

#4 is my fave,

 

[Go Braves]

Since you're a conservative, Go Braves, and not a Trump supporter (much respect for that), do you think this win by a Democrat is the beginning of a backlash against Trump and his supporters? I'm asking you because (1) You're a conservative and not a Trump supporter, and (2) I think I will get a more sensible answer from you since you're not a Trump supporter. I'm not trying to put you on the spot here. I'm honestly curious to know what you think. Thanks, in advance, for your reply.

Oh I definitely think there's a backlash against Trump. Lots of the folks who voted for him did so on account of feeling they didn't have a choice. Hillary & Trump were both awful candidates, so they stuck with voting for the party they belonged to. Some sorely regret that decision, especially since lots of what Trump's done has hurt his own voters. Having grown up right on the border of Alabama & Georgia I never thought I'd see a Democrat beat a Republican, but that's what happened. I think that election was important.

For sure there are some who will vote against the candidate that Trump endorses, on account of not trusting him one bit. But I do also think that there's more folks who are looking at the candidate & not just the party. Where I live now, in Atlanta, there was a Republican who won over a Dem, & I don't think that was in the least bit about supporting Trump. Now he tried to take credit, but it wasn't due to him. (edit to fix a typo here!) The Dem was much younger, much more inexperienced than the Republican. Now he was a good candidate, but I think the Republican was better on account of her having 20+ years on him to get in the experience. The Republican was a fine candidate IMO. She was a sensible choice. Now for this election in PA, the Dem is much younger, but in a lot of ways he sure did act more mature than the Republican. He's got the qualifications. So he was the sensible choice there.

Trump has badly damaged the reputation of Republicans. I think younger Republicans, we're going to be more likely to vote for a non-Republican than a Republican who is just going to make things worse. A Republican who isn't going to kiss Trump's butt & has got integrity will have a better chance than somebody with their lips puckered up IMO.

 

[KCfromNC]

You do realize that Hillary was the corporate candidate last time around, right?

No. Trump was the one marketed as a successful business leader.

 

[Belk]

No. Trump was the one marketed as a successful business leader.

Did corporate America want him though?