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DOGE wants to Make Aliens Great Again: Increase Visas to bring in Skilled Foreign Workers to Take Lucrative Jobs from Mediocre Americans

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What will be your excuse when you stand before The Lord

““Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭41‬-‭46‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Will you say, “but they didn’t have their paperwork”?
Your lack of proper exegesis of Scripture will have no impact on my interaction with Jesus.
 
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You really want people to believe you have had a conversation with thousands of people on immigration.

The credibility gauge is dropping exponentially
I don’t have to have a conversation about immigration to know their heart now do I?

And still you haven’t said where your 80% claim came from? This is the third time I’ve asked this question and you still haven’t answered it. I’m starting to think that you just pulled that number out of thin air which is why I haven’t encountered that many people who support your position.
 
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Your lack of proper exegesis of Scripture will have no impact on my interaction with Jesus.
Wow that’s a great commentary on the passage you gave there, very comprehensive explanation.
 
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Are you psychic?
No I just have common sense. When you know people for years you tend to pick up on certain things about them.

And so this will be the fourth time I’m asking where you got that 80% from. What the matter, can’t back up your statement?
 
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You should read 1 Corinthians 13, I think it might be beneficial to you.
Really?

Do you live the Word, or just trot it out when it fits your political views?

Matt 5:38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.​
 
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opposed to people coming here looking for work to support their family.
They are opposed to people who are not trained and can not do the work. With An H1B visa they have the necessary education and experience for the specialty occupation. If we bring jobs back to America then we are going to need people to do those jobs. In Trumps first term there was a shortage of people to work and do the jobs that needed to be done.

 
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Wow that’s a great commentary on the passage you gave there, very comprehensive explanation.
People who sling scripture to emphasize a political position seldom really want a conversation. I doubt you would accept my help in correcting the exegesis error shown.
 
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People who sling scripture to emphasize a political position seldom really want a conversation. I doubt you would accept my help in correcting the exegesis error shown.
Being a heathen, it is not readily apparent to me as to just what his exegesis error was; can you show it to me?
 
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Being a heathen, it is not readily apparent to me as to just what his exegesis error was; can you show it to me?
Not without derailing the thread. PM me and I can
 
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Really?

Do you live the Word, or just trot it out when it fits your political views?

Matt 5:38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.​
Yes I do live Christ’s word, do I live it perfectly? No. I don’t see this as a political argument but an argument about the importance of compassion for those who are in need.
 
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People who sling scripture to emphasize a political position seldom really want a conversation. I doubt you would accept my help in correcting the exegesis error shown.
Which is just your way of avoiding the passage.
 
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Which is just your way of avoiding the passage.
1 Cor 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.​
4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.​
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.​
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.​
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.​
Please point to me the verse/verses that speak to not deporting illegal aliens. Keeping in mind there are perfectly legal ways to enter the United States.

Thanks
 
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1 Cor 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.​
4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.​
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.​
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.​
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.​
Please point to me the verse/verses that speak to not deporting illegal aliens. Keeping in mind there are perfectly legal ways to enter the United States.

Thanks
Nah, you completely missed the point because you don’t have “ears to hear” so there’s no point in explaining anything to you.
 
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Nah, you completely missed the point because you don’t have “ears to hear” so there’s no point in explaining anything to you.
Four times you asked me to address the passages - when I ask for clarification on those passages - you defer to "there is no point in explaining anything to you".

That is why your exegesis is faulty. Just throwing out scriptures like bumper stickers doesn't work
 
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Four times you asked me to address the passages - when I ask for clarification on those passages - you defer to "there is no point in explaining anything to you".

That is why your exegesis is faulty. Just throwing out scriptures like bumper stickers doesn't work
The ENTIRE CHAPTER is about ONE SPECIFIC SUBJECT. How is it even possible that you can’t see how having LOVE for others doesn’t directly relate to the topic of this thread? The only way that I can possibly comprehend how you wouldn’t make such an obvious connection is if you didn’t want to. Hence my comment “you don’t have ears to hear”.
 
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The ENTIRE CHAPTER is about ONE SPECIFIC SUBJECT. How is it even possible that you can’t see how having LOVE for others doesn’t directly relate to the topic of this thread? The only way that I can possibly comprehend how you wouldn’t make such an obvious connection is if you didn’t want to. Hence my comment “you don’t have ears to hear”.
Psst.... clam down - take a breath.

Loving others does not include condoning illegal activity. God is as much Righteous as He is Loving. Your poor exegesis and need to prove a political viewpoint as correct, is conflating the issue.

Remember we are addressing criminals - those who committed a criminal action and crossing the border illegally is a criminal offense, whose penalty is deportation.

Let them come lawfully and every effort should be made to help them.
 
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Psst.... clam down - take a breath.

Loving others does not include condoning illegal activity. God is as much Righteous as He is Loving. Your poor exegesis and need to prove a political viewpoint as correct, is conflating the issue.

Remember we are addressing criminals - those who committed a criminal action and crossing the border illegally is a criminal offense, whose penalty is deportation.

Let them come lawfully and every effort should be made to help them.
Wow you sound an awful lot like the Pharisees Jesus rebuked in Matthew 12.

“At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. But when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath.” But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions, how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for him to eat nor for those with him, but for the priests alone? Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent? But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here. But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire compassion, and not a sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12‬:‭1‬-‭7‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to Christ’s words here, which was more important, upholding the law or showing compassion?
 
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What will be your excuse when you stand before The Lord

Wow you sound an awful lot like the Pharisees Jesus rebuked in Matthew 12.
I would NEVER question your Salvation - standing with God nor would I call you a Pharisee -

But you do you.

John 7:24
 
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