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What tribe are you?

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Well, I'm not a full-blooded native American, but who really is in this day and age? I'm part Cherokee. I don't look it though. I'm pretty Irish/Scot/English in appearance. Guess the other part of my bloodline was too dominant.

My Great Great (I think it was two "greats" or maybe one...) Grandmother Adele Reed (English last name, I think it was given to her) hid out in a hollow log when the soldiers came to clear out her village when they were gathering everyone up to start the trek to OK. A few days after she came out of hiding was when she met my Great Great Grandpa Samuel Collins. Therein arises the Irish bloodline in me.
 
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I have four Cherokee ancestors, which makes me something like a 16th Cherokee. Well, I'm not positive about that because I'm really horrid in math... ;) But that is probably close. That is,one Cherokee on my grandfather's side, and three on my grandmother's side. My grandfather was 1/8th Cherokee.
 
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AZ man said:
:wave: I'm Navajo(Dine') also, I live in Glendale ,Az 20+yrs. have 3 girls 13,15 and 20 yrs. old .the oldest is at ASU they all play basketball :thumbsup:
I grew up in Rock Point,Az I realy miss the Rez life :(


Be BLESSED :pray:

You grew up in Rock Point? I grew up in Shiprock, NM! :D Lol, I haven't heard of anyone else on CF who was from the rez... Hey, I'm going to ASU this fall; I think I might end up missing home when I move to Tempe though.
 
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delicate_flower said:
Wow, it's a Native American forum! ^_^ That's awesome... well, I'm not sure of what I should say so I'll ask the obvious question... What tribe do you belong to?

I'm from the Navajo people! :D
I have Iraquoi ancestery. I have cousins that are active Cherokee tribe members.
It seemed to me that at least 40% of the "White" people in the Southwest USA are part Amerindian.
 
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I'm of Cherokee and Nansemond descent on my dad's side and no telling what else. I remember when I was 12, I was wanting to learn about my Cherokee ancestors and went looking for a book that might tell me something about the Cherokee(I didn't know at the time that learning from a book is the least thing one should do when learning of one's culture!!!)---I was living in Colorado at the time with my mom--I went in a bookstore and went looking but couldn't find any book on the Cherokee, but I came across "Crying Wind", a story about a Kickapoo girl. It had awesome drawings in it. It was her story of how she came to the Lord. I knew it wasn't by accident that I found her book. I was led to her book and the Creator used that to show me His Love. I was real painfully shy at that age, too shy to go mingle with Natives or go to powows, etc, but I had prayed that Abba would lead me one day to Natives who love Him, too, but also honor Him thru Native culture. Well, just a few years ago, I got to go to my first Native Believers gathering! Sacred Fire in Leeds Alabama, sponsored by Tribe of Christ. Jonathan Maracle did the worship and I was on cloud nine! I also got to meet Robert Francis and his family--from Mid-missouri Indian fellowships, and found out there was a gathering in Marble Falls, Arkansas--about 2 hrs away from where I lived. I waited over 20 yrs for this! I learned to make Pine needle baskets and so I make pine needle baskets and when I can, I go to gatherings, and powwows. I want to learn Tsa-la-gi(cherokee), sometime I'll hopefully get to. There is also a mixed Apache-anglo family that just moved in the area and I'm looking forward to hanging out with them. I'm in the process of learning native culture, so I don't know everything, but I'm learning. Lara
 
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Has anyone read "Lakota Woman" ? I have the book around here somewhere, cannot place it, and I forget the author's name. Anyway, it was assigned in one of my college classes for reading. It is insightful as to the problems of the American Natives.
 
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PaisleyRose said:
Has anyone read "Lakota Woman" ? I have the book around here somewhere, cannot place it, and I forget the author's name. Anyway, it was assigned in one of my college classes for reading. It is insightful as to the problems of the American Natives.

I don't think so, but I have read some of Crying Wind that Cherokee Hippie mentioned in the post prior to yours.
"Children of Grace" was a good book about Chief Josephs experiences when he got at least some of his Nez Perce tribe to Canada.
 
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I find it strange that there's gobs of Cherokee-descended people, but I don't see many with Creek blood.

The Creek and Cherokee hunting lands bordered each other and as such, there were numerous skirmishes between them. One of the most notable and deadly being at Chickamauga (Means "River of Blood" in Cherokee. Kind of wild that the site was also one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War).

I wonder how many of the people here that claim Cherokee ancestry could also claim Creek or maybe even Chickasaw. Sometimes the lineages blur over the years.
 
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delicate_flower said:
Wow, it's a Native American forum! ^_^ That's awesome... well, I'm not sure of what I should say so I'll ask the obvious question... What tribe do you belong to?

I'm from the Navajo people! :D

Am Cherokee and Blackfoot. Have many different traditions past down in family so really not know which come from which.
 
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"I wonder how many of the people here that claim Cherokee ancestry could also claim Creek or maybe even Chickasaw. Sometimes the lineages blur over the years"
I would claim it if I knew I had Creek or Chickasaw! I know there is more Native blood on another line of my family, but I don't know what it is--that side, unfortunately was so shameful and hid it and said that they were BlackDutch, instead.(That side was living in SC and I'm guessing Catawba--they were in York Co--as well as one of my ancestors was supposely born there, so I'm wondering if they were Catawba!) There's a photo of my gr-grandmother's sister and she looks like a mixture of Native/black and white ancestry. Well, I'm not my ancestors. They may have been ashamed or scared to claim their heritage but I'm not. I've met people who claimed to have Creek, Choctaw, or Chickasaw blood! and maybe the reason that much of the mainstream southern 'white' people won't admit to Creek blood, is probably because a long time ago, many of the Creeks intermarried with runaway slaves and the folks who don't claim Creek blood is because their ancestors were ashamed of having Creek/african blood so maybe their grandparents hid it from them, and told them they were 'blackdutch' instead.
 
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SpaceProg said:
I find it strange that there's gobs of Cherokee-descended people, but I don't see many with Creek blood.

The Creek and Cherokee hunting lands bordered each other and as such, there were numerous skirmishes between them. One of the most notable and deadly being at Chickamauga (Means "River of Blood" in Cherokee. Kind of wild that the site was also one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War).

I wonder how many of the people here that claim Cherokee ancestry could also claim Creek or maybe even Chickasaw. Sometimes the lineages blur over the years.

Probably a lot of Creek might have gotten absorbed by the Cherokee. Both tribes were sent to OKlahoma on the dreaded trail of tears, many died... and those few left back east were either hiding in mountains or quickly absorbed into white society: as my ancestors were. A lot of those can't even trace lineage.

We also must consider the tribes as we know them by their names today were not always in what we know as traditional homelands. Although many tribes claim they "emerged" in the land where they lived, we know that many are of a more recent origin (past 1,000 years or so) and their ancestors migrated from other places. Many east coast tribes have partial bloodlines of Iberian/Phoenician and Egyptian travellers who came over in times B.C. These people interbred with people already here and they formed tribes. 2,000 years ago there were probably a lot less separate tribes. Some people from Alaska and Canada even migrated south and so they mixed in with more southerly American tribes. The western tribes often had origins in Siberia/Mongolia region. Notice the further west you go the more you'll find Natives with Asian features, and on the east coast you can find Natives with African or almost European features? (Not talking about those mixed with whites later, I'm talking about full bloods or close to it.) I knew a full blooded Native from Rhode Island that I'd have sworn was a light skinned African, like Libyan or Egyptian maybe. I saw his card: Full blood!

So depending on how far we want to go in our Native ancestry we can discover even more roots. And then there's the "Star People" legends, but that's a whole 'nother story!
 
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Oh Awesome, StarCrystal, I'm so into this very subject. I was reading about some ancestors on my mom's side--mostly white, but I found an interesting legend about one of my mom's ancestors in the 1600's. His name was Augustine Bearse and came over from England--the story was that he was a Romany Gypsy and was banished from England. He came over to Massachusetts and married a Wampanoag woman named Mary Hyanno. It was said she was fair with red hair. I thought that was odd and had assumed that was probably an addition by those ashamed to have dark skinned ancestors, but what you say makes sense, now. I've been so fascinated with ancient inscriptions on rocks, etc, Barry Fell's book, America BC, etc. Just last night I was reading about Ophir where gold from the temple was brought from. Some believe Ophir is Peru. Ps 45 mentions the daughter of Ophir dressed in woven garment of gold. Well, there's a website that shows photos of gold woven incan garments from Peru from a long time ago. Could it be that Solomon had an Incan bride???
 
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