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What synod are you?

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CrossWiseMag

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I do find it interesting that rev's post was called "bashing." It seemed pretty straightforward and factual to me. I think "Bishop" Hanson would almost certainly concede every point in rev's post--and would do it gladly!

Perhaps the better response would be to examine why a factual statement about the ELCA's stand on Holy Scripture would be so upsetting. It may be that the trouble is not with rev's post, but with the ELCA's official teaching. I understand there is variation among congregations -- and laymen are typically much more conservative than the hierarchy -- but I'm talking about the "official" stand.

And lest I be accused of bashing, we in the LCMS are going through many of these same questions right now. I've grown up in Missouri, but I see my beloved synod headed very quickly in the wrong direction. I am already faced with questions about where I will draw the line -- and when my loyalty must be to God, and not to man. (Or, in fact, has the line already been crossed, and I'm keeping my eyes closed to avoid seeing it?) I fear I may not have the courage to leave, no matter how bad things get. But I will pray for the strength to make that decision when the time comes. For those of you in the ELCA who consider rev's post "bashing," I would suggest you, too, consider what's keeping you there.
 
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Rod B said:
Yes my wife is allowed to use the computer, but only if she types silently:p (just kidding of course).
Actually, after a week of bible study, worship, and WInGS meetings she would rather browse quilt and cross-stich patterns than further discuss religion.

Rechtgläubig said:
lol Rob! My wife hears enough come out of me...


enough said.

:D




LOL!!! Both of you!!

Still, it would be really nice to have some women from the WELS join us. I would love to hear their unique take on the, um, slightly stricter rules regarding women in the church.
 
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I am LCMC. My congregation is Augsberg but I am not quite as conservative as most of the folks that identify themselves as ALC. I enjoy Renewal worship, confession and liturgical aspects of service mixed with contemporary music and post-modern presentation. Nothing beats a good Lutheran Table. I really feel the presence of the Spirit every time and kneel down at the alter and take the bread and wine.
God bless,
Bollman
 
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LCMS Lutheran said:
I just want to say I'm sorry to anyone I may have hurt with my previous posts. I am a very opinionated person... as you can see :p . I should have kept my opinions to myself so as to not make anyone feel badly. I hope you can all forgive me. :prayer:

FORGIVEN:D
 
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Starberry said:
I'm new here, and by far this is the most combative board on this entire forum ...so far. Maybe I should just go away and come back later? :sorry:

Welcome Starberry,
If you want to read a combative board, check out some the threads in the General Theology section.

Don't go away .... stay, read, debate, consider, evaluate, study, pray. This is how we confirm, adjust, or disavow the doctrine we each personally hold to.

In general this is pretty friendly bunch, the question in this thread however was bound to elicit strong responses.
 
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Starberry said:
I'm new here, and by far this is the most combative board on this entire forum ...so far. Maybe I should just go away and come back later? :sorry:

I'm with you...I think that's it for me on this board...don't look for me here anymore...
 
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Starberry said:
I'm new here, and by far this is the most combative board on this entire forum ...so far. Maybe I should just go away and come back later?

RedneckLutheran said:
I'm with you...I think that's it for me on this board...don't look for me here anymore...

Come on y'all, we get a bit roudy here, but in the end, we all seem to grow closer thrugh it. Stick around for a while and you'll see it first hand!
 
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DanHead said:
Come on y'all, we get a bit roudy here, but in the end, we all seem to grow closer thrugh it. Stick around for a while and you'll see it first hand!

Oh I so agree! All the congregational boards have the hot button topics. This happens to be ours. And look how things have worked out! People are reaching out to make amends. I think that speaks well to the character (and characters ;) ) of those who frequent TCCL.

And sometimes these discussions that make you angry have a way of catching your attention. I have been at CF over for over a year. Those that remember my arrival remember me as a liberal protestant Lutheran with an aversion for the liturgy and old hymns and a downright hatred for organ music (OK...I still ain't too keen on the organ). But it was just such discussions as this that challenged me and encouraged me study more to understand why some people held the understandings they did. There were a few characters on this board that made me so angry when I read their posts I would literally tense up reading them...but today we are great friends. Give it time.

Offer forgiveness to those who ask for it. Understand that we won't agree on everything and we are all passionate about what we do believe. And let's all remember to be charitable in our disagreements. Passion and charity are not mutually exclusive. If we do this and don't take things personally...we'll all be the better for it.

Peace

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Rod B said:
Welcome Starberry,
If you want to read a combative board, check out some the threads in the General Theology section.

Don't go away .... stay, read, debate, consider, evaluate, study, pray. This is how we confirm, adjust, or disavow the doctrine we each personally hold to.

In general this is pretty friendly bunch, the question in this thread however was bound to elicit strong responses.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

It is just that I was new here, and it was a very intense way of getting acquainted here, I must admit! Especially among Lutherans! Yeah, I'd expect that from other congregations maybe, but not the beloved Lutherans. Anyway, I'm back, and certainly forgive any of you for the opinions stated. I just expected something far different on a Christian forum. :o

Hope all is well now. No hard feelings, I hope. :holy:
 
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Rechtgläubig said:
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lol :D


^_^ Recht! Someday you're goona put me in the hospital Buddie! :thumbsup:
 
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DanHead said:
Come on y'all, we get a bit roudy here, but in the end, we all seem to grow closer thrugh it. Stick around for a while and you'll see it first hand!


Maybe...I just get a little miffed being told what I belive...to be honest I am very close to being LC-MS on a lot of matters...such as Homosexuality and abortion...I just don't agree with females not being allowed to be ministers...I am VERY conservative on most issues...and everytime I read ELCA this or ELCA that I feel that it is a personal attack...maybe that's wrong and I doubt very seriously that it's got anything personal behind it...but this "our way or the highway" mentality just doesn't fit what I belive...If you belive in Jesus Christ as your LORD and SAVIOR confessed HIM with your mouth and in your heart then you are a member of the CHURCH...maybe I'm naive...and if I am...I'm going to stay naive for awhile...

I apologize if this offends anyone...if it does...please feel free to delete it...
 
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RedneckLutheran --

I don't think anyone has told you what you believe. But rev's post DID speak to what the ELCA officially believes. If you find yourself tensing up at those things, you could ask yourself two things:

1. Is his post an accurate reflection of official ELCA teaching?
2. If it is accurate, what does that say about my current synodical affiliation?

Like I said, I have many of the same questions about the LCMS now. It is no longer a safe haven of orthodoxy. In fact, just when I've come to realize the blessings of Lutheran (i.e. Christian) teaching, I realize the synod to which I belong is wandering in some bad directions. We all must ask whether we are "walking together" with those who teach falsely, and obscure the work of Christ by obscuring the Word of God. It's not only an "ELCA thing."
 
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