What should a father do?

[bradfordl]

My question is what should we expect of a father when he witnesses his own young daughter being raped and mutilated and has in his hand a loaded revolver? Should he not intervene? My gut reaction is to say he should empty said revolver into the perpetrator's head and rescue his child. Why is it appropriate then for God to sit idly by and watch such things and not intervene? Even more confusing to me is the idea that not only is He watching, but that He actually ORDAINS, and therefore PLANS such things. If a man were to write, produce, direct and market a movie that contained a small percentage of the evil that occurs every minute in this sick existence, we rightly would condemn him as perverse. Why does God get a pass here? I came to faith at age 20 in a pentecostal church, wrestled with the inconsistencies and over time came to be reformed, joined a PCA church, etc., now at 47 I am unable to make sense of God's sovereignty, His fore-ordination of all things, His omnipotence and holiness with the fact that he sits idly by and watches the most wicked of events, even plans them. Why?

 

[mlqurgw]

In infinite wisdom, righteousness and love God knows not only what is best but always does it for His people. We may not be able to understand the why in this life but it is clear that whatever God does is for the ultimate good of His people and the glory of His name. That is why Job could say, though He slay me yet will I trust Him. The evil in this world exists because God knows best how to bring to pass His purposes. The Psalmist said in 76:10 the wrath of man shall praise the and the remainder of wrath shalt thou restrain. I am sure that Joseph didn't much like being thrown onto a pit and sold into slavery but it was for an ultimate good reason as he later states. Gen. 45:4-8

 

[bradfordl]

Do we speak in general abstract terms to preserve our sanity? Are you saying that every wicked act of slaughter and perversion occurring as we write is somehow necessary? Do such things only happen to the lost? Could you explain to me why God WANTS to sit back and watch little girls and boys (even unsaved ones) being raped and murdered? He must WANT to watch such disgusting things, because He is able to intervene and does not. He must WANT such things to happen because He ordains them to be. What mind concieves of such things? A holy one? I really and sadly just don't understand. I desire above all things to know and love God, but time and experience seem to instead drive me to fear and distrust Him. Existence could be whatever He wants it to be. Why this perverse one?

 

[mlqurgw]

Do we speak in general abstract terms to preserve our sanity? Are you saying that every wicked act of slaughter and perversion occurring as we write is somehow necessary? Do such things only happen to the lost? Could you explain to me why God WANTS to sit back and watch little girls and boys (even unsaved ones) being raped and murdered? He must WANT to watch such disgusting things, because He is able to intervene and does not. He must WANT such things to happen because He ordains them to be. What mind concieves of such things? A holy one? I really and sadly just don't understand. I desire above all things to know and love God, but time and experience seem to instead drive me to fear and distrust Him. Existence could be whatever He wants it to be. Why this perverse one?

No I do not speak in general abstract terms. There are two things that give me great comfort in this world of sin: God is absolutely sovereign and He is absolutely good.
I think you are focusing on the wrong thing. The evil that men do is because they are evil but it does, in some way, serve the purpose of God. The greatest and most evil act that men could have ever perpetrated was to crucify the Lord Jesus Christ. Still, if they hadn't we would have no salvation.

 

[Foundthelight]

My question is what should we expect of a father when he witnesses his own young daughter being raped and mutilated and has in his hand a loaded revolver? Should he not intervene? My gut reaction is to say he should empty said revolver into the perpetrator's head and rescue his child. Why is it appropriate then for God to sit idly by and watch such things and not intervene? Even more confusing to me is the idea that not only is He watching, but that He actually ORDAINS, and therefore PLANS such things. If a man were to write, produce, direct and market a movie that contained a small percentage of the evil that occurs every minute in this sick existence, we rightly would condemn him as perverse. Why does God get a pass here? I came to faith at age 20 in a pentecostal church, wrestled with the inconsistencies and over time came to be reformed, joined a PCA church, etc., now at 47 I am unable to make sense of God's sovereignty, His fore-ordination of all things, His omnipotence and holiness with the fact that he sits idly by and watches the most wicked of events, even plans them. Why?

Let us look at the parable of the wheat and the tares. The grower (GOD) does not allow his servannts to pull up the tares (the reprobate) because in doing so they may inadvertantly pull up some of the wheat (the elect). He could destroy the evil ones at the expense of the elect. In his Holy Wisdom he chooses to allow all to live and give the evil ones their just reward on Judgement Day.

In the mean time, go ahead and pull the trigger. We have a right to defend ourselves.

 

[mlqurgw]

If I may give you a personal example. It doesn't quite equate to the evil that men do but does relate to God bringing about good from suffering.

My daughter had to have emergency brain surgery while visiting in Brazil. When I received the call that she was in the hospital there because of the bleeding in her brain, which few survive, I never even questioned what God was doing but honestly saw it as God doing what was best. The whole story is too long to relate here but the way in which God worked it all out was such a blessing that now I and all those who are familiar with the situation can only praise God for bringing such a blessing in it. Every detail is clearly a true example of God working to the praise of His name. I had a similar experience when I had a heart attack. God even used my daughter's situation as a means to show an unbeliver what it is to be a Christian. While she was in the hospital in Brazil a physical therapist, who didn't understand, asked if she knew how serious her situation was and the danger she was in. When told that she knew the therapist asked why she was always smiling and was told that it was because she a believer.

 

[bradfordl]

I mean abstract general terms (i.e. "evil in this world" or "evil that men do") to avoid having to think particularly about the multitude of horrors being perpetrated every second in this world and the people upon whom it falls. I think comprehending the evil that happens in just one minute of time on this earth would crush the sanity and heart of any human.

What I am focusing on is the fact that God has all the hairs of my head counted, and He's watching all these events. In trying to understand what little He allows me to about Him, I am confronted with this logical disconnect: You say He is both Absolutely Sovereign and Absolutely Good. I am unconditionally convinced of the former, which leaves the latter open to skepticism. Again, what sort of entity derives any pleasure from ordaining such horrors to occur? What would be the necessity? Why must such a huge number of people, saved and unsaved, be subjected to such heartless terror, especially at the end of their lives? So that God can take pleasure in exacting vengeance on their attackers? I don't understand this.

 

[mlqurgw]

I mean abstract general terms (i.e. "evil in this world" or "evil that men do") to avoid having to think particularly about the multitude of horrors being perpetrated every second in this world and the people upon whom it falls. I think comprehending the evil that happens in just one minute of time on this earth would crush the sanity and heart of any human.

I know folks who have been abused by their parents, some have been through the most horrible things that I couldn't even imagine and it breaks my heart. The emotional trauma is not to be described but in it all the goodness of God can be seen. We each must deal with that which affects us in some way. Either we hate God for it or see in it His hand of blessing. One will cause us to harden our hearts so that we are not affected any more. The other will strengthen us in faith.

What I am focusing on is the fact that God has all the hairs of my head counted, and He's watching all these events. In trying to understand what little He allows me to about Him, I am confronted with this logical disconnect: You say He is both Absolutely Sovereign and Absolutely Good. I am unconditionally convinced of the former, which leaves the latter open to skepticism. Again, what sort of entity derives any pleasure from ordaining such horrors to occur? What would be the necessity? Why must such a huge number of people, saved and unsaved, be subjected to such heartless terror, especially at the end of their lives? So that God can take pleasure in exacting vengeance on their attackers? I don't understand this.

Here I believe is the crux of it. Why do we have to think God derives pleasure from it? To believe He brings it to pass because it serves His purpose doesn't necessarily invole His getting pleasure from the evil. Consider what it is we actually deserve from Him. Nothing that evil men can do to us would compare to what we truly deserve because of sin. That torment that is eternal for those who die in unbelief is beyond all that men suffer here.

I truly applaud your compassion and even share it but we must balance it with truth.

 

[bradfordl]

I know folks who have been abused by their parents, some have been through the most horrible things that I couldn't even imagine and it breaks my heart. The emotional trauma is not to be described but in it all the goodness of God can be seen. We each must deal with that which affects us in some way. Either we hate God for it or see in it His hand of blessing. One will cause us to harden our hearts so that we are not affected any more. The other will strengthen us in faith.

Here I believe is the crux of it. Why do we have to think God derives pleasure from it? To believe He brings it to pass because it serves His purpose doesn't necessarily invole His getting pleasure from the evil. Consider what it is we actually deserve from Him. Nothing that evil men can do to us would compare to what we truly deserve because of sin. That torment that is eternal for those who die in unbelief is beyond all that men suffer here.

If He works all things after the counsel of His own will, why would He do anything that did not please Him, or ordain anything that does not please Him? Even if we say He has chosen to ordain some unpleasantries to bring about His ultimate purpose, which some may say is to redeem for Himself a people, is that not a plan that pleases Him? I know this all sounds blasphemous to question God's motives and to see what appears to be gratuitous unnecessary violence and horror in His plan, but I find it hard to just close my eyes and say it all must be for a good reason. There's just so much sorrow it is hard for me to understand.

 

[bradfordl]

Let us look at the parable of the wheat and the tares. The grower (GOD) does not allow his servannts to pull up the tares (the reprobate) because in doing so they may inadvertantly pull up some of the wheat (the elect). He could destroy the evil ones at the expense of the elect. In his Holy Wisdom he chooses to allow all to live and give the evil ones their just reward on Judgement Day.

In the mean time, go ahead and pull the trigger. We have a right to defend ourselves.

The problem is that God designed the feild, the soil, the way the roots intertwine, planned the fact that His enemies planted the tares, designed the tares to grow in such a way that pulling them would harm the wheat because He designed the wheat to be harmed in such a situation. There are no surprises for Him even when scripture makes it appear as though there were.

Why doesn't God pull the trigger when the little girl's earthly Daddy's not around?

 

[mlqurgw]

If He works all things after the counsel of His own will, why would He do anything that did not please Him, or ordain anything that does not please Him? Even if we say He has chosen to ordain some unpleasantries to bring about His ultimate purpose, which some may say is to redeem for Himself a people, is that not a plan that pleases Him? I know this all sounds blasphemous to question God's motives and to see what appears to be gratuitous unnecessary violence and horror in His plan, but I find it hard to just close my eyes and say it all must be for a good reason. There's just so much sorrow it is hard for me to understand.

In no wise to I consider your questions as blasphmous but serious. I do truly understand and I am extremely aware that I don't have an answer that will satisfy. Let me just say that somethings must simply be bowed to and believed. There is a difference between getting pleasure and being satisfied. It is clear from Scripture that God delights in mercy and that He is satisfied by the death of Christ. I don't know how to explain how it pleased the Lord to bruise Him other than because of the good that would come from His death. Yet He did not derive sadistic pleasure from it. It didn't thrill Him in a sinful way that such suffering does to a wicked man. God isn't a man ( excluding the one who is both God and man) and we must never seek to understand Him as though He were. Christ didn't act as a sinful man but as that man who is Himself God.

 

[bradfordl]

I guess I ought to apologize for coming into this forum and asking things that some consider blasphemous. I don't mean to offend anyone, and don't want to shake anybody's paradigm. I just need to find a logical and scriptural way to make sense of what my eyes see and my ears hear. My church has fallen apart over issues of how reformed we ought to be and what constitutes shepherding. I have accepted all this as being ordained, but there are no other reformed churches around. Does that mean it is God's will that I attend one of the many arminian or semi-pelagian or dispensational churches available? Or that I refrain from attending church at all? Does it mean there are not any of the elect around so a faithful church is unnecessary in God's plan? Does that mean I am not of the elect? Guess I just wish there were someone around to answer a few of these questions for me and I'm probably looking in the wrong place. Thanks for your responses, I know they are well meant.

 

[McWilliams]

Please know that as long as you desire Him, desire to please Him, desire to live your life for Him you can be sure you are His! That is Him drawing you to Himself!
He does all things to bring glory to Himself and His name! That is His purpose in everything!! Whether it makes any sense to us as mere humans is of no importance at all! He is God, high, holy and lifted up and we are to glorify Him! That others make other, even perhaps inferior choices is our concern only as long as we are seeking His guidance, His purpose! If you pray and ask Him if you're to stay in 'this' church or another He will surely answer that prayer and guide you; that is again, as long as your goal is pleasing Him, serving Him where, when and how it would best glorify Him! Many churches today are becoming more and more liberal, more and more selfseeking, people pleasing in their message and approach. The biblical goal of glorifying God is even done on their terms, not to glorify God alone! God is not only loving but is also a righteous judge and will bring all to their knees to glorify Himself! They will come to Him in worship and love and adoration or will at His hand come to Him at the judgment throne!
We must all be in prayer for our church, that they remain God focused, God honoring, God worshiping! We must humble ourself before His mighty hand and submit to His will and He will bless us and draw us closer to Himself! Soli deo gloria!

 

[Rick Otto]

I believe it IS blaspemous to question God's motives, but not unforgiveable, & I'm certainly not offended by behaviour I've exhibited myself!

Isaiah 45:7 confirms the predestination of evil events, but as my friends here have said, it is for good reason like the perfection of His saints &/or to His glory as He displays His justice in judgement of said heinous acts.

Ya realy gotta trust Him on the motive issue!
It helps not to judge Him by human standards.
I could say He doesn't dish out what He wasn't willin' to endure...
I also believe we've got a skewed view of eternal damnation due at least in part, to translation problems, but the bottom line is, He is good even when what He allows to happen isn't.

I pray He strengthens you during this difficult time.

 

[CCWoody]

I think what we need to keep in mind here is that all we get to see is, from a human sperspective, what actually does happen. We watch, for instance, with horror 2 planes full of people bring down 2 towers full of people. We don't know why. We don't know why the Lord has brought these things to pass. We simply can't know these things. All we can do is cling to the promises of the Scripture in the face of these things: "We KNOW that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to his purpose." We are called to walk from suffering to glory. This is our road through the valley of the shadow of death. And, though we ask why, we must be of a mind that it will happen and walk by faith and not by sight. We can be armed that there is a purpose and dignity in what happens to us, not for the sake of the things themselves, but for the fact that we suffer for the sake of our Lord:

For your sake we are killed... and accounted as sheep for the slaughter.​

It is the glory of God to rescue sinners, those who deserve death, not remove evil. The Lord has every right and power to remove all evil, today. And, for the reason that it will ultimately increase our love for the Lord, he has chosen merely to remove the "sting" of death, not death itself today.

What we don't get to see is the uncountable days where the Lord restrained the wrath of man. This is the true prevenient grace of God:

Psa 76:10 GB
(10) Surely the rage of man shall turne to thy praise: the remnant of the rage shalt thou restrayne.

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Psa 84:6-7 GB
(6) They going through the vale of Baca (weeping), make welles therein: the raine also couereth the pooles.
(7) They goe from strength to strength, till euery one appeare before God in Zion.

Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory....

Your friendly neighborhood Cordial Calvinist
Woody.​

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

The problem is that God designed the feild, the soil, the way the roots intertwine, planned the fact that His enemies planted the tares, designed the tares to grow in such a way that pulling them would harm the wheat because He designed the wheat to be harmed in such a situation. There are no surprises for Him even when scripture makes it appear as though there were.

Why doesn't God pull the trigger when the little girl's earthly Daddy's not around?

Hello Bradford,

I think you might benefit from rereading Job, especailly the part were Job questions God and God responds. I also think what Paul says in Romans 9 will prove useful.

God has ordained all that comes to pass, that is true and much of what comes to pass grieves the Lord.

I am big into history and I have recently been doing a lot of rereading on WWII. It is mind boggling to think of the 10's of millions of judicially innocent people that suffered horribly, and or were killed all over the globe during those years. Yet, it happened and God ordained it.

I can name coutless other events. Look at what Stalin did in Russia, or Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, etc... in their lands. This list can go back to near the beginning of human history.

God is not like us. His ways or not our ways. HE takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, yet he ordained that these things for a purpose. You are trying to understand why, when all you have is a snapshot of reality. God has a reason and it is good. this is all the answer you can have in this life.

Coram Deo,
Kenith

 

[heymikey80]

I glanced over the postings and I had a thought.

What if what we have done to offend God is much more heinous a sin than we really conceive, offhand? Might God be revealing the consequences of our sin to such an extent, that we're seeing much more and worse consequences in some cases than we consider bearable?

The reason I ask this is twofold. I have to deal with this kind of problem, myself. I'm sorry, I have to have an answer for very specific reasons. And this is the only answer I can come to so far that seems to fill the void: that we're much worse than we ever imagined. To me that seems to be the only explanation for saying our outward innocents receive such horrible violence. That sounds so counterintuitive, because we see people as humanly innocent. But for a God Who sees everything, before Whom our every worst thought is bared before His glory, if not His favor toward us? ... I have to say with definite assurance I'm not worthy enough to escape the worst violence conceived by human depravity on this planet.

Some people don't seem to believe our sins are so bad as to warrant eternal torment, though. As a result it's hard for me to talk about this subject. We see individuals in the abstract as innocent. Yet we've immensely offended the Infinite. The depth of depravity that results from God's "giving us over to iniquity" (Rom 1) shocks and surprises us.

Again, I think it's entirely true that God doesn't desire for us the violence and offenses that happen to us. He wishes better for us. In the majority of cases God seems to give better to us. But God does have to confirm His deep offense to apprise us of our depths of depravity. We don't seem to discover this on our own, in a vacuum. I didn't.

Is this evil really imperfectable among God's people? I think God can do it. I think He can glorify and redeem all the offenses perpetrated in His Creation (Rom 8:29ff). If He can't, then we're looking at the wrong God.

 

[bradfordl]

I glanced over the postings and I had a thought.

What if what we have done to offend God is much more heinous a sin than we really conceive, offhand? Might God be revealing the consequences of our sin to such an extent, that we're seeing much more and worse consequences in some cases than we consider bearable?

The reason I ask this is twofold. I have to deal with this kind of problem, myself. I'm sorry, I have to have an answer for very specific reasons. And this is the only answer I can come to so far that seems to fill the void: that we're much worse than we ever imagined. To me that seems to be the only explanation for saying our outward innocents receive such horrible violence. That sounds so counterintuitive, because we see people as humanly innocent. But for a God Who sees everything, before Whom our every worst thought is bared before His glory, if not His favor toward us? ... I have to say with definite assurance I'm not worthy enough to escape the worst violence conceived by human depravity on this planet.

Some people don't seem to believe our sins are so bad as to warrant eternal torment, though. As a result it's hard for me to talk about this subject. We see individuals in the abstract as innocent. Yet we've immensely offended the Infinite. The depth of depravity that results from God's "giving us over to iniquity" (Rom 1) shocks and surprises us.

Again, I think it's entirely true that God doesn't desire for us the violence and offenses that happen to us. He wishes better for us. In the majority of cases God seems to give better to us. But God does have to confirm His deep offense to apprise us of our depths of depravity. We don't seem to discover this on our own, in a vacuum. I didn't.

Is this evil really imperfectable among God's people? I think God can do it. I think He can glorify and redeem all the offenses perpetrated in His Creation (Rom 8:29ff). If He can't, then we're looking at the wrong God.

Mikey,

That's the best answer I've been able to come up with. The old analogy of the scale between Hitler and Jesus. That we're not just closer to Hitler on that scale, but actually in a bear hug with him in comparison to the holiness of Christ. So by that logic, my daughter deserves to be violated and slaughtered at the hands of one of the perverts God places among us. Would that mean I should not intervene, or not resist evil, because she deserves worse anyway?

I guess my confusion may go beyond that. I do understand, by knowing my own foul heart, that we deserve hell for our innumerable transgressions. What bewilders me is that, knowing God is capable of designing any existance He wants, why does He want this one? All the wickedness ever perpetrated by man would never have happened if God so desired. Equal ultimacy and "active vs. passive" arguments are in reality so much debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Nothing happens except God WANTS it to happen. All the mental gymnastics in the world can't jump over that.

And not all evil is perpetrated by man. When I saw an Indian man weeping over the dead body of his young, drowned son after the tsunami, I had to wonder why all that was necessary.

I'm still struggling with trying to understand it all. I want to again look to the Lord trusting in His good purpose in all things, but feel sometimes that I was naive in the past when I did. There is just so much despairing horror out there. So much seems so pointless.

One theory I've been bouncing around is that maybe this whole movie is written by God as an eternal demonstration of what righteousness and evil are, and why one is good and the other wrong. Then we are all, both saved and lost, characters in a long and painful morality play, assigned our roles from before time. Wouldn't that mean God has intentionally created billions of beings for the ultimate purpose of torturing for eternity? That is apparently so, and it gives me pause as to how that comports with holiness. If you despise butter, why churn cream?

As you can see, I am pretty mixed up about it all. No answers, just more questions.

 

[Rick Otto]

but the two reasons that keep echoing in my mind are "His glory" & "the perfecting of the saints".

Since we're Totaly Depraved, and we need to be holy & righteous, you can see the potential for shocking contrasts, like the heart breaking beauty of the Creator's sunset in the background of your Asian father, mourning his grievous loss.

The verses dealing with with this refer to "brute beasts" & "vessels of dishonor". The temptation then, is for the clay(us) to rail an accusation against our Creator with the question "Why has thou made me thus?" and the underlying assumption that enboldens us to question His motives is that we DO have some "redeeming quality", "innate goodness", etc., etc, the delusion that puffs us up into thinking we have autonomy (free will) aBOVE His jurisdiction.

No pain, no gain?
I hate to resort to bumper-sticker theology, but the soul of wit is brevity, no?

 

[heymikey80]

Would that mean I should not intervene, or not resist evil, because she deserves worse anyway?

Well, I have to phrase the question in a way that can't escape rhetoric, but I press you to consider the "negative side" seriously. The question is "should I not intervene", not "would it be good to intervene"? Do I get that right? Are you asking why God is not morally compelled to intercept and stop all right punishment because violence is unjust? On the first, I assert violence against injustice is deserved, and God is in control of all powers, so He may designate punishment by an evil offender. Violence and murder are not the worst of evils, and God wants to rescue some from those worse eternal torments. This argument is lightly outlined in a couple of places, Rom 9:20ff (thanks rick), and Lk 13:1-5.

Are you asking why God does not actually stop all physical violence against the deserving, given that He is capable and decries this violence? Again I'd have to say God wants to rescue some from eternal torments. This is one way to apprise us of the depth of our depravity (again, Lk 13:1-5).

I also see a smaller problem with God's doing this. I see it as the Quintessential Father deciding who can escape the verdict of true justice. Should a good father cover for all the heinous sins of His children? Will He sweep all justice under the rug in defense of His own perception of what's pleasant, while keeping all this horror just beneath the surface, infesting the human heart forever? To me that would destroy the eternal soul for the sake of passing flesh. Maybe, just maybe that's what Paul alluded do in Rom 3:5-8. I'm not sure there's enough to know what Paul is attacking there, but it does seem to fit.

What bewilders me is that, knowing God is capable of designing any existance He wants, why does He want this one? All the wickedness ever perpetrated by man would never have happened if God so desired. Equal ultimacy and "active vs. passive" arguments are in reality so much debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Nothing happens except God WANTS it to happen. All the mental gymnastics in the world can't jump over that.

And not all evil is perpetrated by man. When I saw an Indian man weeping over the dead body of his young, drowned son after the tsunami, I had to wonder why all that was necessary.

I'm still struggling with trying to understand it all. I want to again look to the Lord trusting in His good purpose in all things, but feel sometimes that I was naive in the past when I did. There is just so much despairing horror out there. So much seems so pointless.

One theory I've been bouncing around is that maybe this whole movie is written by God as an eternal demonstration of what righteousness and evil are, and why one is good and the other wrong. Then we are all, both saved and lost, characters in a long and painful morality play, assigned our roles from before time. Wouldn't that mean God has intentionally created billions of beings for the ultimate purpose of torturing for eternity? That is apparently so, and it gives me pause as to how that comports with holiness. If you despise butter, why churn cream?

As you can see, I am pretty mixed up about it all. No answers, just more questions.

I do say this bears serious examination -- and I think it's the critical reason I'm a Christian and not a JW or a Mormon, frankly.

I also think it's why Christianity truly drowned the world in conversions in its first few centuries. Up to then, the western world had seen the moral value of all sorts of things like heroism, family, law & justice, honesty, life, even faith & loyalty.

But they had truly not noticed the moral value of redemption. It simply isn't there in Phaedrus, for instance. You only got redemption as a moral value in "heroism", but not in humbleness.

And suddenly God is humbly redeeming people.

To me that's the brilliance of Christ in the Crucifixion. I must speculate at this point, I don't have all the Scriptural citations to back it up. But I think God's point in creating corruption is to reveal His redemptive nature, His favor on the undeserving. It's revealed as an overwhelming, overarching moral character and fibre of God. Without corruption to redeem: how can God reveal undeserved favor to a people who deserve it? It seems contradiction to me. So I back up: God did intend corruption. He made a world perfectly able to show off this favor He intends. In it, perfect human beings defy Him like cowards. This is counterintuitive -- it's downright shocking -- but it is not counter-intended. God intended to show His redemption, to show His favor on those richly undeserving cowards. Us. Me.

That results in heinous sins and violence in creation -- deserved, though undesired. And yet God will fix that too, for at the End of Days "His Judgement comes, and soon."

To your analogy -- if butter were the only possible intended result, and God despised butter, you'd be right. There would be no point to churning cream. But what if the analogy is that of making wine from grapes, instead? Grapes are edible, why make wine? Sure there's a detestable period while the wine is aging, but some of it comes through the process wonderfully better, quite different from the grape itself. Still other bottles spoil.

Or should we go with the parable of the sower? No one eats the dirt, and yet some plants bear wonderful fruit from it.