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So, you're saying god engineered inequalities into man? Some people can have the happiness of marriage while others just aren't meant to?
What do you think the word "natural" means?
Listen, if you want to do something useful and get all worked up about something REALLY disturbed and unnatural? Go google "Yiff" and go tell THOSE guys what you think of them.
So how does being gay adversely effect the lives of those gay individuals in ways that are not directly linked to the disdain and stigma of people like you, and that are not shared by heterosexuals?
Because being homosexual is a normal life for those individuals. You can't "cure" someone of homosexuality and you will find that regardless of how hard you might try, they will most likely go back to that life or be miserable living the life that makes you feel most comfortable.I have no disdain for gay people. Just because you don't like my strictly logical assertion, does not mean you should take it personally. Nice try, but this is the standard ploy of fringe groups to attempt to eliminate discussion.
Clearly science says these people are abnormal. So why not do what is possible to help them live a normal life?
That ain't what God said and that ain't what I said. That's what you think.
People have a propensity for all types of things. And those same people CHOOSE to act or not act on those propensities.
Everybody who wants to get married may do so if they do so in the manner God has ordained.
We don't run into trouble until folks decide that they want to do something God has said to not do.
I have no disdain for gay people. Just because you don't like my strictly logical assertion, does not mean you should take it personally. Nice try, but this is the standard ploy of fringe groups to attempt to eliminate discussion.
Clearly science says these people are abnormal. So why not do what is possible to help them live a normal life?
Ah yes, before interracial marriage was allowed, blacks had every right whites had. They could marry within their own race, but marrying with another race was against god's law. So it was all perfectly equal. If a white woman loved a black man or a black woman loved a white man, well, too bad for them, they should just find someone in their own race, after all, we all have the freedom to choose who we love. If someone chooses to love someone of the wrong type, then they deserve punishment.
Why the Ugly Rhetoric Against Gay Marriage Is Familiar to this Historian of Miscegenation
What does this have to do with science proving that homosexuality is genetic and God's word not caring if it is? It's still a non-issue.
God's word doesn't prohibit interracial marriages . He prohibited interreligious marriages. SOme folks just got that wrong.
There has never been a question about whether or not God prohibits fornication.
From the article I linked:
Here are four of the arguments they used:
1) First, judges claimed that marriage belonged under the control of the states rather than the federal government.
2) Second, they began to define and label all interracial relationships (even longstanding, deeply committed ones) as illicit sex rather than marriage.
3) Third, they insisted that interracial marriage was contrary to God's will, and
4) Fourth, they declared, over and over again, that interracial marriage was somehow "unnatural."
You're attempting to equate being gay with a particular act, declaring that act as unnatural, and stating it's contrary to god's will. Your arguments are the same arguments used against interracial marriage.
And now I must be off to work. Be well.
If by "something is amiss in the mind of the homosexual" you mean that something is different, then yes...I would agree. Something IS different in the mind of a homosexual in comparison to a heterosexual...however, I would not go so far as to say it is necessarily "abnormal."Let me first say having read some of your posts that I find you to be clearly an intelligent person.
I'm not talking about opinions here I am talking about biological truth. If you want to argue against it, you do so from ignorance. Black is black and you can call it noir, but it is still black.
I really don't care about people's sexual attractions, I was merely extrapolating upon the OP's contention. Just because you are gay doesn't mean I dislike you or think you are immoral, but there is no doubt that something is amiss in the mind of the homosexual and if that is the fact, then we should look for a cure, as we do for other diseases or disorders.
From the article I linked:
Here are four of the arguments they used:
1) First, judges claimed that marriage belonged under the control of the states rather than the federal government.
2) Second, they began to define and label all interracial relationships (even longstanding, deeply committed ones) as illicit sex rather than marriage.
3) Third, they insisted that interracial marriage was contrary to God's will, and
4) Fourth, they declared, over and over again, that interracial marriage was somehow "unnatural."
You're attempting to equate being gay with a particular act, declaring that act as unnatural, and stating it's contrary to god's will. Your arguments are the same arguments used against interracial marriage.
And now I must be off to work. Be well.
Actually, this is One Nation under GOD indivisible.
Added to the Pledge during the Red Scare and found nowhere in the Constitution of the United States.
This question is unresolved. What we do know is that it is highly unlikely that a gay gene exists.Hello, I would like to discuss homosexuality. Before I do so I would like to state that I understand this is a controversial topic and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I mean no disrespect towards anyone.
That being said I do not understand how people deny homosexuality as being scientifically proven to not be a "lifestyle choice". What proof do you need?
You mean besides the over 15 years of scientific studies that included brain scans (CT and MRI) that showed the brain of a gay person was actually structurally and functionally more like that of the opposite sex than their own?
In 1991, brain scientist Simon LeVay reported that the hypothalamus, which is involved in sexual behavior, tended to be smaller in gay men. Other researchers subsequently showed that the brains of gay and straight people appeared likely to respond differently to sexual images. The researchers who conducted the new study previously reported that the brains of gay and straight men seemed to react differently to suspected pheromones -- odors thought to be involved in sexual arousal.
Ivanka Savic and Per Lindstrom of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm published a study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in which they used MRI to compare brain symmetry in straight and gay men and women. They found that gay men tended to have brains that were more like those of straight women than of straight men -- the right and left sides were about the same size while gay women's brains tended to be more like those of straight men than of straight women -- the right side tended to be slightly larger than the left.
When they switched to PET scans, they found that in a part of the brain involved in processing emotions -- the amygdala -- and is connected to other brain regions gay men tended to be more like straight women, with a stronger link between the amygdala and regions involved in emotions. Gay women tended to be more like straight men, with stronger connections to motor functions.
There are other biological markers as well, with recent studies having been done at CSU Fullerton and Queen Mary, University of London, among many, many others.
In other words, you cannot dispute that there is a biological, genetic cause for homosexuality, no matter what your feelings are about it.
This question is unresolved. What we do know is that it is highly unlikely that a gay gene exists.
I'm assuming by this statement you are trying to conclude that homosexuality can be a "learned" thing or that it can develop through nurture.
I have met very, very, very many gay and lesbian individuals in my life time. No two come from the same type of home. I am a lesbian and I came from a strong Christian household where both of my parents were present and where there were very strong family values. I essentially came from a seemingly "perfect" home in today's standards...yet I am a lesbian. My cousin had a very similar situation. Strong Christian home, strong family values and he is now gay. It's not something you just happen to develop in your life or is the cause of some issues in the upbringing. We were very aware that my cousin would be gay as he preferred to play with barbies, cook, and dress up when he was very, very young.
So was my assumption correct then, that you believe it's all nurture or learned?There is still no scientific evidence to conclude homosexuality is genetic.
I bet you still pay income tax?Added to the Pledge during the Red Scare and found nowhere in the Constitution of the United States.
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